Question about 18"rims - probably dumb

[ScottD4]

We do a bit of off-roading, mostly sand. Given the raging debate regarding the tyres on D4 I thought I would have a shop and look at the options.

Everything on this site talks about Gordon's 18 GOE rims.

I am going to offend someone here no doubt, but here goes.

Why do you buy these particular rims?
They are very expensive, why?
Various tyre shops have 18" rims for $200 each, fitted. Why won't these work?

I'm not trying to be rude, just general inquisition. Please put me in my place should that be required.

Scott.

[Nicky]

No question is too dumb, the only dumb question is the one you are afraid to ask.

[mowog]

They are expensive because they are quality rim.

Gordon put in all the ground work to get these rims to market. I was part of the original group buy as well and none of it would have happened without Gordon.

[ScottD4]

They are expensive because they are quality rim.

Gordon put in all the ground work to get these rims to market. I was part of the original group buy as well and none of it would have happened without Gordon.

Thanks for that.

Can you please answer the question though. Gordon's rims are $2280 before getting fitted.

Tyre shops in Sydney have 18" rims for $800 fitted. Big bloody difference.

What's wrong with the cheaper option?

[Tombie]

Simple - they won't fit :)

[ScottD4]

Simple - they won't fit :)

Ah, that's the answer I want.

Why not Tombie?

I knew there would be a reason the cheaper option isn't suitable.

[Tombie]

Unless you have a 2.7l engine the brake calliper will foul on the inside of the rim as the 3l has a larger rear brake set up.

There are alternatives but the offset is slightly outside legal and they are about the same price.

[~Rich~]

Ah, that's the answer I want.

Why not Tombie?

I knew there would be a reason the cheaper option isn't suitable.

Yep brakes!
Also many of the aftermarket wheels do not have a high enough load rating.

[Graeme]

Even with appropriate load rating for general use, are the alternatives strong enough to stand up to the punishment of off-road use? The Compomotive rims were developed for off-road racing then the design slightly modified to fit over the 3.0's brakes.
Also, cast alloy rims cost significantly more than spun rims to manufacture.

[LRD414]

Scott,

I've just been through the same exercise. Apart from all the points other guys have made, one way I look at the cost is that after 3 tyre changes, the wheels will have paid for themselves.
I got D697s for $394 fitted & balanced. A comparable 19" tyre would be the Duratrac for which I was quoted $540 fitted and balanced. You can obviously get cheaper 19's and "comparable" is always arguable but that is the tyre I was going to get if staying with 19". And that's not even considering the reduced likelihood of flats going from 19 to 18, which I also recognize is arguable.

Anyway, how they go is of course the true test. I think they look awesome as well.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/11/111.jpg

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Scott

[gghaggis]

Nice pic Scott,

Would you mind emailing me a copy? I don't have that colour combo in my collection.

Cheers,

Gordon

[RHS58]

Scott
Standard LR nuts and centre cap look fine with GOE rims.
I'm not sure about the white lettering on the tyres though. Looks a bit too busy for me.
Ron

[LRD414]

Scott
Standard LR nuts and centre cap look fine with GOE rims.
I'm not sure about the white lettering on the tyres though. Looks a bit too busy for me.
Ron

I agree on the first point but am undecided on the lettering Ron. I was in two minds and under pressure to make the call at Jax. I decided that I can always put matt black paint over the white letters if I don't like it. I'll see if it grows on me or not.


Nice pic Scott,

Would you mind emailing me a copy? I don't have that colour combo in my collection.

Cheers,

Gordon

Email sent Gordon.

Cheers,
Scott

[Wheelan]

Scott,

I've just been through the same exercise. Apart from all the points other guys have made, one way I look at the cost is that after 3 tyre changes, the wheels will have paid for themselves.
I got D697s for $394 fitted & balanced. A comparable 19" tyre would be the Duratrac for which I was quoted $540 fitted and balanced. You can obviously get cheaper 19's and "comparable" is always arguable but that is the tyre I was going to get if staying with 19". And that's not even considering the reduced likelihood of flats going from 19 to 18, which I also recognize is arguable.

Anyway, how they go is of course the true test. I think they look awesome as well.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/11/111.jpg

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Scott
What size tyres did you go for?

[LRD414]

265/60/R18.

[tiddy]

Scott,

I've just been through the same exercise. Apart from all the points other guys have made, one way I look at the cost is that after 3 tyre changes, the wheels will have paid for themselves.
I got D697s for $394 fitted & balanced. A comparable 19" tyre would be the Duratrac for which I was quoted $540 fitted and balanced. You can obviously get cheaper 19's and "comparable" is always arguable but that is the tyre I was going to get if staying with 19". And that's not even considering the reduced likelihood of flats going from 19 to 18, which I also recognize is arguable.

Anyway, how they go is of course the true test. I think they look awesome as well.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/11/111.jpg

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Scott

Scott, that looks great, I think some serious penny saving is now in order.

[PeterJ]

Hi all, just be weary about the standard center caps, mine from the 20" wheels fell out, lost 2/4 while around west McDonald ranges, (should be easy to find next time I am up that way, nice and shiny in all the red dust) they were a bit loose in the 18" rims. Fortunately at $15 each to replace it is not another body part to be mortgaged.
Nice work Scott, mine is same colour, same wheels, same tyres but mine are incognito.

PeterJ

[Tombie]

A dab of silicone stops that :)

[BMKal]

I agree on the first point but am undecided on the lettering Ron. I was in two minds and under pressure to make the call at Jax. I decided that I can always put matt black paint over the white letters if I don't like it. I'll see if it grows on me or not.

Cheers,
Scott

No doubt everyone has an opinion on this and they will never all be the same. :D

But I reckon your vehicle looks great with Gordon's wheels fitted - and with the lettering showing on the tyres. ;)

A colour-matched bulbar and a decent set of sliders would set it right off. :cool:

[LRD414]

... Fortunately at $15 each to replace it is not another body part to be mortgaged ...

I got a set of 4 of these on Ebay for $25. They appear to be genuine and fit well.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/192.jpg

Then I was considering getting these black ones to go with GOE wheels but now thinking I'll keep the silver ones because I think they look pretty good.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/lrd414-albums-wheels-picture5154-caps-black.jpg

I'll use the silicone trick now too I think.

Cheers,
Scott

[Melbourne Park]

Scott,

[QUOTE]I've just been through the same exercise. Apart from all the points other guys have made, one way I look at the cost is that after 3 tyre changes, the wheels will have paid for themselves.



Another point is that for myself, I can use the standard tyres around town. That means for towing and 4WD'ing, the terrain tyres will not have been worn out with street corners etc.

I am not sure though about the alignment issues on the suspension. Evidently there is a special mode for alignment? There is a "normal" suspension mode but evidently its not as good as the dealer enabled tyre alignment mode?

[BMKal]

Have a read of this thread ......................

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/205398-wheel-alignment-d3-d4-rrs-not-simple.html

[BobD]

I'll use the silicone trick now too I think.




I just leave mine off as they just fall straight out of both my LR rims and my GOE rims. Gordon told me about silicon but I don't worry about it any more.