What size tyres people running on 17' rims

[Ean Austral]

Gday All,


Just curious as to what size tyres people are running on 17' rims.


Cheers Ean

[Redback]

Started with 265/70/17 with Kumho KL78s, then went to 245/70/17 with BFG KM2s, will be going back to the 265/70/17s, mainly for a bit more clearence, I went to the 245s to see if the fuel economy improved, but it hasn't so will be going back to the 265s.

Baz.

[shanegtr]

I'm another one on 265/65/17. Its a common size too as I belive its the stock size for prado's

[scarry]

I run 245/70/17,which is close to OEM diameter.Fuel economy no different to OEM 18's.

265/70/17 is around 25 to 30mm larger than OEM,depending on what brand tyre you run.

No issues with rubbing,etc?
Spare fits in inflated?
Vehicle will still move on bump stops?

I need some new tyres as well,just thinking what to do.

Plado OEM size is 265/65/17

Some GX models also ran 245/70/17

[shanegtr]

Plado OEM size is 265/65/17

I got my size wrong, I've edited my previous post, I knew it was either 265/70 or 265/65 I just couldn't remember excactly which one. (I haven't had my D3 long enough to remember the tyre size :) )

[Graeme]

I have 265/65-17 for everyday use and LT245/70-17 for rougher use and winter slops, both being standard Prado/Pajero sizes for their cheaper price and availability anywhere. My spare is LT245/70-17 in case its needed in harsher conditions.

[BSM]

Me too with 265/65/17. The only downside I've found with this size is that there wasn't enough clearance on the front between the inside of the tyre and the steering linkages to fit the cheap Aldi snow chains.

[Graeme]

My rims are +40mm offset so more inner clearance than the LR 17x7 but their 7.5" width moves the inside edge back in 6mm so only a net of 7mm more clearance.

[scarry]

Are you guys running 265/65/17 on stock LR rims?

[BSM]

Are you guys running 265/65/17 on stock LR rims?

No, I put Performance 17" rims on.

By the way Performance Wheel's has closed up shop. Apparently the owner was at retirement age and no-one wanted to take on an alloy wheel manufacturing business in Australia against cheap imports.

Yet another manufacturer bites the dust. You do wonder what the kids will be doing in 20 years. Digging up ore bodies, or tending to the old farts I suppose.

[TerryO]

Just before Performance Wheels closed late last year I brought six of their 17" rims which are exactly the same model and maximum legal off set as the 17's I have on the D3. They will eventually fit on the D4 with a couple of small mods, which will happen when we decide to use the D4 for touring.

I like the look of the black BB6 17" rims and with BFG KM2's fitted they have proven, for me anyway, to be a good combination of rim and tyre for off roading.

[shanegtr]

Mines got Gmax M168. I've also found them online by the name of Bona Fide
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/704.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/shanegtr/media/Disco/IMG_8559_zps663a1ef7.jpg.html)

[Redback]

Mines got Gmax M168. I've also found them online by the name of Bona Fide
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/704.jpg (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/shanegtr/media/Disco/IMG_8559_zps663a1ef7.jpg.html)

Hey Shane, are you using the LR wheel nuts or aftermarket ones??

Baz.

[shanegtr]

I have no idea, they where on when I brought it. I'd have a guess and say the nuts look aftermarket to me

[Hoff 73]

So am I reading this correctly, most are running 265 65 17 and a 265 70 17 will fit?
I'm about to run 22's as the every day rims for the missus and was looking to put a mud sand tyre for off-road ing on some 17 or 18's, and still wand to keep it a commonly/ easily sourced size.
Hoff

[Timj]

The issues with tyre size are mostly to do with the rear air conditioning if you have that. There is some componentry in the rear wheel arch that creates a bump that reduces the clearance somewhat and the 265/70 will rub on it. The 245/70 is ok but I am not sure of the 265/65. Apparently it can eventually rub right through the plastic wheel arch and damage things.


Cheers,

TimJ.

[~Rich~]

The issues with tyre size are mostly to do with the rear air conditioning if you have that. There is some componentry in the rear wheel arch that creates a bump that reduces the clearance somewhat and the 265/70 will rub on it. The 245/70 is ok but I am not sure of the 265/65. Apparently it can eventually rub right through the plastic wheel arch and damage things.


Cheers,

TimJ.

The 245/70 R17 is 775 OA diameter.
The 265/70 R17 is 803 OA diameter.

The 245's won't rub, the 265's will rub.
All D3 / D4's have the seam at the front of the rear wheel arch.
It can be either folded over or trimmed.
Folding over is easy if you don't have rear AC as the coolant lines run next to the seam.
If you have rear AC then it is better to trim the drivers side seam and relocate the coolant lines, the passenger side one can be folded over.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/650.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/D3/normal_heater-lines_zps344fd924.jpg.html)

This is a photo of a trimmed drivers side seam and relocated coolant lines.

[shanegtr]

I got rear A/C and theres no issues with the 265/65/17's, they are around the same dia as the 245/70/17's - 776mm

[TDV6]

I use 265/65/17 LT tyres when towing our caravan.

Re fuel consumption, the larger the tyre diameter the worse the consumption will be. Think of a lever 500mm long with 1kg on one end and you keeping it level while holding the other end then make the lever 1000mm long and its a lot harder to keep level, its the same as increasing the distance from the axle to the tyre tread with a larger dia tyre.

Ryall

[Redback]

The 245/70 R17 is 775 OA diameter.
The 265/70 R17 is 803 OA diameter.

The 245's won't rub, the 265's will rub.
All D3 / D4's have the seam at the front of the rear wheel arch.
It can be either folded over or trimmed.
Folding over is easy if you don't have rear AC as the coolant lines run next to the seam.
If you have rear AC then it is better to trim the drivers side seam and relocate the coolant lines, the passenger side one can be folded over.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/02/650.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/D3/normal_heater-lines_zps344fd924.jpg.html)

This is a photo of a trimmed drivers side seam and relocated coolant lines.

I never experienced any rubbing on my D4 with rear air with the 265/70s on, hence why I was going back to that size, but that tip will help if I do, thanks Rich.


I use 265/65/17 LT tyres when towing our caravan.

Re fuel consumption, the larger the tyre diameter the worse the consumption will be. Think of a lever 500mm long with 1kg on one end and you keeping it level while holding the other end then make the lever 1000mm long and its a lot harder to keep level, its the same as increasing the distance from the axle to the tyre tread with a larger dia tyre.

Ryall

I never noticed any change in fuel economy, going from 255/60/18(763) to 265/70/17(803) and then back to 245/70/17s(775) if there was a change, I didn't notice it, either towing and not towing.

Once up to cruising speed, the lower RPM will negate extra diameter and weight of the larger tyre, might make a slight difference in sand or really hilly country, but I think on average it will even out.

Baz.

[kenthead]

I run 265/70 17's Cooper s/t maxx on factory rims. never had an issue with them rubbing at any height. I don't have rear a/c and never had a seam rolled or folded. I was originally told that they wouldn't fit but i'm on my second set now. Previous set lasted 90,000+ kms.

[Hoff 73]

I run 265/70 17's Cooper s/t maxx on factory rims. never had an issue with them rubbing at any height. I don't have rear a/c and never had a seam rolled or folded. I was originally told that they wouldn't fit but i'm on my second set now. Previous set lasted 90,000+ kms.

Sweet, that's awesome news, was the size I was hoping would work with.

[Ean Austral]

If some are saying that 265/70/17 rub and some aren't, would it be as simple as the tyres that rub are M/T with the more chunky tread or the tread blocks on the shoulder rubbing and the less aggressive A/T not rubbing ?


Just a simple thought.


Cheers Ean

[Redback]

If some are saying that 265/70/17 rub and some aren't, would it be as simple as the tyres that rub are M/T with the more chunky tread or the tread blocks on the shoulder rubbing and the less aggressive A/T not rubbing ?


Just a simple thought.


Cheers Ean

This could be the case Ean, also, just because the size says 265, this doesn't mean that the acual width is 265, it depends on where the manufacturer measures the tyre from, some are measured from the edge, whereas some are measured from down the shoudler.

As an excample, our 255/60/18s were actually physically wider than the 265/70/17s when you put them side by side, because our 255 GG AT2s were measured from the tyres edge and the 265 Kumhos were measured from down the shoulder.

Baz.

[Ean Austral]

This could be the case Ean, also, just because the size says 265, this doesn't mean that the acual width is 265, it depends on where the manufacturer measures the tyre from, some are measured from the edge, whereas some are measured from down the shoudler.

As an excample, our 255/60/18s were actually physically wider than the 265/70/17s when you put them side by side, because our 255 GG AT2s were measured from the tyres edge and the 265 Kumhos were measured from down the shoulder.

Baz.


Yep the same with the OEM wranglers at 255 are wider than the Dunlop 265 I have on at the moment.




Cheers Ean

[~Rich~]

But more to the point on the rears it's overall diameter that causes the rubbing, width to a lesser extent.
On the front width also matters more.

[Hoff 73]

I may be wrong, but was under the impression that all tires were measured from the widest point, ie if the side wall bulges wider than the tread width etc.
yeh i know a different width rim can influence that, but the specified rim the manufacturer of tire stipulates is designed for.
Interesting comment re tread style.

[Graeme]

I've always understood that the metric width size specification is the nominal section width in mm on the tyre manufacturer's nominated width rim.

[scarry]

This will answer a few tyre questions.

Hours of reading…….


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp'techid=202

[Hoff 73]

I've always understood that the metric width size specification is the nominal section width in mm on the tyre manufacturer's nominated width rim.

Hey Greame, I was just going off of what a mate who owns a tyre store told me, as i'd thought the same as you till I measured a few tyres and they measured narrower than the size they were.
Ps, I have been kown to be wrong before. lol, no seriously I have,

[Hoff 73]

This will answer a few tyre questions.

Hours of reading??.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp'techid=202





That has heaps of awesome info, cheers Mate.

[scarry]

That has heaps of awesome info, cheers Mate.

The tirerack site also has heaps of info and specs on new tyres,different brands and sizes.

But you have to be careful as they are not all available locally.

If anyone is interested in BFG KO2,265 70,and 65,17 will be available by mid year in Aus.

245/70/17 will not be available until the last quarter this year.

[Graeme]

Hey Greame, I was just going off of what a mate who owns a tyre store told me, as i'd thought the same as you till I measured a few tyres and they measured narrower than the size they were.
I suspect you have misunderstood what I wrote as the section width is the width at the widest point of the bulge.

[Hoff 73]

I suspect you have misunderstood what I wrote as the section width is the width at the widest point of the bulge.

Yeh, sorry, I did misunderstand.
Cheers