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cj7mexicodefender
10th February 2015, 08:51 PM
Hi, everyone, putting this here and hopefully I can get some help. I am in Cabo San Lucas Mexico and I bought a flipped 2010 Defender for a SONG. I've been seeing this particular vehicle in a yard 300 miles from my house for 2 yrs. Since it was flipped I didn't pay attention until I was able to get a close look. Diesel, 2010, 110. I bought from the impound yard after it was in an accident, definitely not driveable. Virtually a useless vehicle here because of customs regulations. Not legal to drive in Mexico unless you purchase brand new from dealer. I am keeping the drivetrain and putting it into my registered and imported CJ-7. Originally I looked into it for a friend and he couldn't buy it as he is in the U.S., so let's not even go there. I ended up buying for a virtual song. Since I bought it almost sight unseen, I am dealing with the inherent issues. I have a good fabricator-mechanics shop that is able to do the swap, BUT the vehicle has no remote and no key..... I was promised both upon payment and they were never delivered. I know the easiest swap is my body into LR frame BUT not smart in case I get checked, which is not uncommon here. I am a mexican national and won't go into details but there's legal issues that this involves.

Here's my issues:

I would love to keep the original frame and drivetrain but cost of fixing it is cost prohibitive for me. Can't import to Mexico and you would still have to fix. I may be able to keep axles (not sure until it goes to the shop) but not sure yet. I am extending my CJ7 frame to turn it into 4 door and 110' WB.

1. No remote, no key.... There's vendors in UK... is this the only way? Post deposit for programmer, pay for FOB key? Do you guys think I can get the FOB key sent without going into the poorhouse? Is it possible with the VIN and frame number?

2. FOB key claims I need to plug programmer into port that's located between front seats, I cant find it.... does the 2010 Def have it elsewhere??

3. My Frame says "PUMA" on it... is this normal??

4. Copper thieves were hungry and cut 2 wires 15-20 each coming out of the computer thats mounted behind motor on firewall. My mechanics are pretty savvy and can look up the wiring diagram but any info is welcome.

5. Theres a female (10-12 pin) plug sans male side of wiring about a foot to the right of the computer (right from looking into the hood). Another battery lead with 2 smaller gauge wires in front of the fuel rail AND a female socket directly on the fuel rail itself.

6 Ive been told I can have a UK vendor"reflash" the ECU to delete the Theft Control Unit and bypass all that, get a new switch and do the swap. Does anybody know if thats possible?

I love the idea of a LR Defender drivetrain in my CJ-7 that I've owned for 18+ years but if this is too much of a headache I'll part out??? Thanks everyone, C U in Baja!

Loubrey
10th February 2015, 10:04 PM
As a Defender and Land Rover enthusiast I'm not to thrilled with the CJ7 Defender combination, but i understand your issues...

I can answer a couple of your questions, but hopefully you get more feedback.

Puma is the development name for the 2007 onwards Defender running the 2.4 and later 2.2 Ford Duratorq engines, so yes normal to have the frame labelled as such.

Bell Auto Services (BAS) will remove the engine immobiliser, but its pretty expensive (about 350 GBP if I remember correctly)

Good luck!

Cheers,

Lou

digger
10th February 2015, 10:41 PM
are you le to source an older land rover ?

then slowly adapt all over to it...

good luck (what does a legally bought but pranged one go for? if you get one of them -maybe get a hail damaged body shell sent over?? (there is a few about)

MLD
11th February 2015, 08:44 AM
Addressing Point 4 and 5: save yourself headaches and buy the RAVE CD with wiring diagram. Have a look in the "Shop" section of this forum. I understand you can buy them from the UK too. That should go along way to assisting the wiring issue.

MLD

cj7mexicodefender
13th February 2015, 02:20 PM
A legal 2010 LR Def here is about 500-600,000 (aprox 40,000 U.S. Dlls) pesos. Because this one is badly flipped AND not imported (and cant be imported as Mexico has no treaties with AU) I am forced to scavange what I can out of it. By selling what I dont use online (I havent started going thru it at the shop so no inventory list yet) seats, hopefully dash, transmission and motor are for sure going in Jeep. All is doable except if dash wont fit. Cheers

cj7mexicodefender
13th February 2015, 02:24 PM
Does the dashboard in LR Defenders allow for swap into left hand drive or are you stuck with RH drive??

cj7mexicodefender
28th February 2015, 06:32 AM
[QUOTE=digger;2316356]are you le to source an older land rover ?

then slowly adapt all over to it...

good luck (what does a legally bought but pranged one go for? if you get one of them -maybe get a hail damaged body shell sent over?? (there is a few about)[/QUO
LOL, Sorry, didnt get what youre saying as English is my 2nd language.. pranged? I think you are saying I shouild swap parts into a running defender? I am in Mexico and the vehicle is not importable and is seriously damaged to a point beyond repair. Not easy to find other Defenders around here so I am going to swap what I can into My JEEP CJ-7 thats been mine for 17-18 years and has been my funnest vehicle BY far. A legal 2010 Defender here goes for around 40-45,000 U.S dlls in Mexico plus reg every year. Depending on your state (not all states charge this tax) a NEW Defender right now pays around 14-1600 U.S dlls per year and that tax goes down 10 per cent a year and you pay for 10 yrs. In essence you would pay till 2025 for a Def you buy today. By putting the drivetrain into my CJ7 I am not paying anytaxes because its an old vehicle, no smog (emissions) and its an awesome vehicle, wolf in sheeps clothing ;)