HE BOUGHT A JEEP

[ramblingboy42]

my neighbour just bought a nice new red shiny Grand Cherokee Laredo V6 diesel.

rather nice to look at and sit in.

he brought it home yesterday and had driveline vibrations on the way home.

he's gone back to his fi/fo workplace today

soooo , his 18yo son decides he'll take it for drive and not knowing others are watching absolutely canes this thing cold up the street.

It'll probably have more than driveline problems......

I'll get to drive it later and give my honest opinions.

btw , he was told if he takes it bush to remove the lower part of the grille first so it doesnt get torn off.

[Toxic_Avenger]

I've been passenger in one of the new ones, and while it's nice and comfy, with lots of buttons and pretty lights / dials on the dash, it's definately designed towards being a town car than an off-roader.

Dealer advice to remove the front grille before wheeling? That's a bold recommendation. Pretty much admitting defeat before you start!

[ramblingboy42]

yes, the neighbour doesn't even want to take it bush , but I might try and get him to drive it gently up a couple of tracks behind me.

only 6 screws said the dealer........

[TerryO]

Most Laredo's only have coil spring suspension and stuff all ground clearance, the flasher models have adjustable gas suspension which has similar height adjustability to a D3/4 which makes them reasonable off road.

Considered buying one on a couple of occasions and while the air suspended ones are good to drive they basically have to many short comings to be compared to a D3/4.

[nat_89]

Before i bought my D4 i was looking at the new GC to save some money as they are a lot cheaper than the D4 man am i glad i didn't get one!! I live in a small town with about 10000 people in the last 2 weeks I've seen 2 on the back of tow trucks!! Then a fella i work with drives a tow truck on his days off occasionally he has taken one back to the dealer 3 times with engine issues! My brother inlaw went to test drive one as he was looking for a new rig the same time as me and they went for a test drive and about 5 kms in he took over driving from the salesman and gave it a boot full to get on the road and it blew a coolant line and dropped its coolant!

I was also reading on car advice.com.au they had one as a long term test after a few months they had to give it back because it was just having to many issues electrically so I'm super glad i got my D4 instead of a Jeep haha!!

But i will admit they do look great a really nice looking car both inside and out plus loaded with lots of great features.

[digger]

yes, the neighbour doesn't even want to take it bush , but I might try and get him to drive it gently up a couple of tracks behind me.

only 6 screws said the dealer........

sounds like a marriage..... :)


Now Ive said that and read it back ,let me clarify...

I was reffering to the "doesnt even want to take it bush" so bought a jeep , sounds like a marriage made in heaven for him and jeep...

NOT

"Only 6 screws"...... sounds like a marriage !!

[gusthedog]

sounds like a marriage..... :)


Now Ive said that and read it back ,let me clarify...

I was reffering to the "doesnt even want to take it bush" so bought a jeep , sounds like a marriage made in heaven for him and jeep...

NOT

"Only 6 screws"...... sounds like a marriage !!

Glad you clarified but the other way your statement could be interpreted is still true as well :Rolling:

[ramblingboy42]

sounds like a marriage..... :)


Now Ive said that and read it back ,let me clarify...

I was reffering to the "doesnt even want to take it bush" so bought a jeep , sounds like a marriage made in heaven for him and jeep...

NOT

"Only 6 screws"...... sounds like a marriage !!

...don't say any more....you'll dig yourself in too deep....digger

[Toxic_Avenger]

in the last 2 weeks I've seen 2 on the back of tow trucks!! Then a fella i work with drives a tow truck on his days off occasionally he has taken one back to the dealer 3 times with engine issues! My brother inlaw went to test drive one as he was looking for a new rig the same time as me and they went for a test drive and about 5 kms in he took over driving from the salesman and gave it a boot full to get on the road and it blew a coolant line and dropped its coolant!


I saw one with dealer plates on it... stranded in the middle of an intersection.
From what I could tell, the people on the test drive had bailed, and the towies had taken up traffic redirection duties :D

[nat_89]

I saw one with dealer plates on it... stranded in the middle of an intersection.
From what I could tell, the people on the test drive had bailed, and the towies had taken up traffic redirection duties :D

Oh dear god I'm so glad i didn't buy one!! Sounds like they are not having a good run at all with them i mean the basics are there they look good and have awesome interior looks and loaded but just eeek everything else seems to be a problem haha!!

[rangietragic]

There are heaps of jeeps where i live,havn't seen a broken one yet.Having said that neighbours up the road bought a new one,had it about 2 months and got rid of it.Nothing but trouble.They are cheap though,maybe why there is a lot of them around now.

[Tusker]

My work truck is a Grand Cherokee..

2 yrs old, hasn't missed a beat. Word on the street is though warranty claims are an issue, more than LRA I think, and bits are expensive.

Drives nicely, rides well, steers quite neutrally, mostly Mercedes underneath with a top of the class Fiat diesel. Mines got spongy brakes though.

It is a cheap car, cheaply built. But for the price you can't knock it.

Oh, and the front air dam is removable by design. It's supposed to be taken off in the rough stuff.

Regards
Max P

[PAT303]

Jeeps are like Land Rovers,heaps of horror stories around by people who have never owned one but know a mates brothers aunties budgie that does,I know lots of owners,about 10 or so and they all have bugger all drama with them. Pat

[INVSBL]

my partners parents have a TD Grand Cherokee, part from the auto being horrible when left in auto and the flimsy sheet metal, they are not a horrible 4x4wagonthing, pretty good motor, tows cars on rented car carries fairly effortlessly.

[Homestar]

If you change the word 'Jeep' in every post and replace it with 'Land Rover' this would look just like a dozens of threads running on any Toynissmo forum.

We complain about getting bagged out all the time for owning Land Rovers, but we're just as bitchy as everyone else. :D

[p38arover]

I have no problem with Grand Cherokees.

Last year a chap I know bought one - and gave me his registered P38A (which I've had to store as my wife won't let me bring it home).

[loanrangie]

I like a couple of jeep models but the breakdowns and recall list is rapidly out stripping that of LR .

Sent from my GT-I9300 using AULRO mobile app

[ramblingboy42]

My neighbour won't be told anything.

Think it's got something to do with his nationality.

[Tote]

SWMBO took one for a drive recently when se was considering a replacement for the Wrangler. They ware a nice enough ting but are still too small for our needs when compared with a D3.
We got all the horror stories when we bought the wrangler as well. It is definitely an enthusiast vehicle like a Land Rover in that it isn't a featureless piece of whitegoods but it has been more reliable and cheaper to fix than the D3 over the 4 years that we've owned it.

Regards,
Tote

[LaNcE]

As with any car maker I guess, some gets a lemon some doesn't. We have 2 yes 2 jeep grand cherokees!! 1 my2012 110xxx k's and 1 my2014 69xxxks'. never had a single problem both diesels too!


the freelander 2 that we have is starting to become a problem, power steering pump replaced, gps screen needed to be replaced and just yesterday the fuel pump relay/ecu needed to be replaced.

[Homestar]

As with any car maker I guess, some gets a lemon some doesn't. We have 2 yes 2 jeep grand cherokees!! 1 my2012 110xxx k's and 1 my2014 69xxxks'. never had a single problem both diesels too!


the freelander 2 that we have is starting to become a problem, power steering pump replaced, gps screen needed to be replaced and just yesterday the fuel pump relay/ecu needed to be replaced.

Don't jinx yourself! :D

I said that once about my L322 - it cost me $7K a few days later... :D

[LaNcE]

Don't jinx yourself! :D

I said that once about my L322 - it cost me $7K a few days later... :D




Well I guess I did!! but not the jeeps, the lander. The seat recline motor died! not died because it still goes down but not up! LOL

[Xtreme]

The guy who bought my 240,000km 15 year old D2 had bought a new $46,000 Jeep three weeks earlier, not sure what model. Anyway, soon after taking delivery of the Jeep the brakes failed and he narrowly avoided crashing it. Returned it to the dealer who couldn't replicate the problem and suggested the new owner take it back - naturally he wasn't keen to drive something which had already exhibited a serious and unrectified fault. Jeep wouldn't take it back so he sold it and bought my D2. :angel:

[Defender Defender]

Hello. i enjoyed reading this thread and saw it started so long ago, plateaued and then came back to life again recently. I've had the pleasure of owning three Jeeps over a number of years. I've had 10 Landrovers over a longer time. I have 4 of the Landrovers at home now and have had one lemon in all of that- a 6 cylinder Landrover Series 3 wagon, but all of the Jeeps were fabulous. The first Jeep was the "real" Cherokee- the big square wagon the size of a 60 Series Canned Loser except it out engineered that thing in every single respect. The roof was 100 mm lower than a Poo-troll or Loser yet had more ground clearance on 15 inch rims and tyres. It had a good undercarriage and some of the best running gear in Dana and a New Process 4 speed gearbox. It could turn its quite large body around in about 11 and a bit metres and had ability to spare when off road. It drove at 17 mile per gallon and towed at 15 and I was a little upset when it was traded in. I was devastated when the 2.8 diesel Rollux that replaced it pulled less, drank more and turned around in a lot more space yet it was considerably smaller in size. Engineering... oh what a feeling..... mediocrity.
The next Jeep was the XJ Cherokee diesel that replaced that Rollux 6 months later... happily. Its only fault was its own physical size. We outgrew it as a family so it was traded on a new Jeep Commander in 2006. That was the update of the older big Cherokee and a great vehicle. It was let down by the 17 inch tyres as they were fairly new in 4wd circles and all that was available were highway rated tyres. Apart from a flat battery we had no dramas at all with it.
However, I wouldn't get a newish Jeep as I just don't like the looks of them. Reliability wise, having to drive all manner of makes and models for work I'm finding all makes and models of new stuff are playing up as they're cheaply and lightly built cars masquerading under tougher looking sheet metal and are fit only to be pretend vehicles in an urban environment. Utes can't get close to carrying their rated loads off the factory floor without major suspension work and the engines in anything are only tolerably economical while the thing (ute or wagon) is empty and on a highway. It's sad to see everybody embracing this mediocrity.... and enthusing about it. I'll keep my old Isuzu Landrover tray-back thank you, and am looking to supplement any wagon work with a big old Cherokee again. It's such a shame they're so thin on the ground.
I love my Landrovers, but I love my Jeeps too.

[Mercguy]

Are you referring to the chassis SJ or the re-issued 94- xj version?
My uncle has an xj and he feels about it the same as you do about your s3 :D

I like the old 2 door sj look from about 74. A lot of character, like 2 door rrc. Certainly not the prettiest, but purposeful.

Good luck finding one though - apparently they are as equally sought after as early 2 door rrc's... Would be nice with a transplant modern hemi, 722.6 and quadratrac 2, but a lot of work... And money...

Why did you hate your s3 so much? And what was the unmentionable? An alfa? ;):cool:

[Defender Defender]

It was a chassis model SJ 4 door. The Sportsman. It was white with rear quarter go fast stripes in tan, brown and orange wit Sportsman in blue. Looked a bit better than it sounds. Originally a 6 cylinder Rambler but a 308 Holden blue V8 when I bought it. A few people said it looked (& sounded) like an overrated pose machine until it got into the bush and was basically unstoppable.
I'd be reasonably content leaving another one stock for awhile if I found one until I knew what I wanted to do with it.
It was sadly replaced with a 2.8 diesel Hilux. It was reliable I must say but so so boring...... and thirsty, slow, uncomfortable, cramped and mediocre in the bush. That's the unmentionable.
The Series 3 was just one of those things that was doughy,slow thirsty and always seemed to need work. It was a 9 seater 6 cylinder with a screaming Fairey overdrive and the only Landrover in my 10 I've ever been glad to be rid of.

[gusthedog]

I'd have one of these J8's if they sold them to the public.

http://www.jeepolog.com/UserFiles/english_pages/jeep%20j8%20road%20test.htm

Pricey

[Defender Defender]

Personally I'm not a fan of the Wrangler front and never have been, but the engineering of the simple Jeep is awesome straight out of the box, and that J8 looks capable. It does read well with good specifications. It's a preference thing and in that I liked the big square Cherokee and the squareness of the Commander also hit the mark aesthetically for me.
I always wanted to test the Commander as it came with 17 inch low profile highway terrain tyres from new and there wasn't anything in that tyre size at that time that was remotely off road friendly. It had an awesome V6 Mercedes diesel engine and a 5 speed auto with good low low gearing, so had the potential to be an awesome off road machine with just a bit of clearance. Now there are kits for lifting it and fixing the small issues they had, and I miss it.
They were a little better put together than a Defender- they felt like a nice solid quiet car- but they were two different types of vehicles in a similar configuration, yet possibly equally as good in the rough stuff. I would most likely be pretty happy with either.

[Toxic_Avenger]

2 words: Wrangler Hellcat

Gimme gimme. Come to poppa!

[crash]

2 words: Wrangler Hellcat

Gimme gimme. Come to poppa!

+ locked Dana 60's front and rear, 40" tyres what more would you need.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Probably shares in BP. :p
And a good mate in Tyre sales