No5 Army Trailer Wheel Bearings and Seals

[CaptainDan]

Hello All

This is my first post so please be patient, I see you are discussing army trailers specifically No 5 which I own can anyone advise of the wheel bearing size and the inner and outer hub seals. I see in Landbiz they have some on ebay but unsure if they are the correct one. I just need to strip the bearings down and repack

Many thanks

Caniel

[Bearman]

Hello All

This is my first post so please be patient, I see you are discussing army trailers specifically No 5 which I own can anyone advise of the wheel bearing size and the inner and outer hub seals. I see in Landbiz they have some on ebay but unsure if they are the correct one. I just need to strip the bearings down and repack

Many thanks

Caniel

G'day Capt Dan, the bearing is 359S for the cone and 354A for the cup, the seal part number is 50178. I think that is a landrover part number but here are the dimensions if you want to get these bits from a bearing shop - seal, 3.376" OD, 2 3/8 ID, 1/2" width. No outer seal, gasket only. Oh, and welcome to the AULRO forum, I think you will like it here!!!!!!

[omvanders]

G'day Capt Dan, the bearing is 359S for the cone and 354A for the cup, the seal part number is 50178. I think that is a landrover part number but here are the dimensions if you want to get these bits from a bearing shop - seal, 3.376" OD, 2 3/8 ID, 1/2" width. No outer seal, gasket only. Oh, and welcome to the AULRO forum, I think you will like it here!!!!!!

Resurrecting an old thread here, as I'm trying to source an exact match for the seal mentioned by Bearman, so I can have spares handy for the No 5 trailer I'm purchasing.

I've got the bearings on order, but the closest match I've come across to the quoted dimensions for the seal has a 3/8" wide seal rather than 1/2" (while OD and ID are a match). Will that be ok?

I've tried online to search out an answer for a couple of hours now but with no luck, so I'm looking forward to the advice of a sage or two on this forum.

Thanks

OMV

[p38arover]

Have you pulled the seal out? Often they have the part no. on the seal.

Take the seal to CBC https://www.conbear.com.au/ or similar. They'll find a match.

[omvanders]

Have you pulled the seal out? Often they have the part no. on the seal.

Take the seal to CBC https://www.conbear.com.au/ or similar. They'll find a match.

Thanks Ron for the advice.

I'm not wishing to disturb the seal that's in place if I can help it.

Besides which it's CBC that I've been dealing with. The bearings arrive from Victoria tomorrow, together with said [not quite matching] seals which are the best that they can come up with.

PS Be assured that I've inquired elsewhere as well.

[weeds]

You don’t need to disturb the seal...

Remove hub
Measure axle where the seal runs
Measure the OD of the seal, while it’s still in the hub

I wouldn’t be worried about the difference in seal width......

[weeds]

Whoops, didn’t read the whole thread.......

OD and ID are mentioned....

Wide not a biggie....it’s only a light weight trailer.

[weeds]

Righto, rang my bearing supplier....

The 1/2 wide seal is no longer available from his two main suppliers....however they still have stock in some branches....from memory 8 or 9 across a couple of stores soget in quick.

Statewide Bearings

3.3/8”x 2.3/8” x 1/2” is the seal size.

$5.60ea
$16 postage


He also said the 3/8 wide seal will do the job.


The part number listed above didn’t come up on his system....either way we always go by actual sizes and not so much the part number.

[weeds]

I reckon if CBC dig a little deeper they could also find stock of the 1/2” wide seal.....the 3/8” wide would come up first as its available.

[omvanders]

Righto, rang my bearing supplier....

The 1/2 wide seal is no longer available from his two main suppliers....however they still have stock in some branches....from memory 8 or 9 across a couple of stores soget in quick.

Statewide Bearings

3.3/8”x 2.3/8” x 1/2” is the seal size.

$5.60ea
$16 postage


He also said the 3/8 wide seal will do the job.


The part number listed above didn’t come up on his system....either way we always go by actual sizes and not so much the part number.

Statewide Bearings in Adelaide quoted me $9.03 each plus GST and $16 postage to get them in from interstate.
I think I'll just stick with the 3/8" wide ones if they do the job as mentioned.

Thanks for your help Weeds.

OMV

[weeds]

Statewide Bearings in Adelaide quoted me $9.03 each plus GST and $16 postage to get them in from interstate.
I think I'll just stick with the 3/8" wide ones if they do the job as mentioned.

Thanks for your help Weeds.

OMV

LOL.....I probably have more buying power than you, we spend 10’s of thousands of dollars with them.

[weeds]

Rang my rep at CBC

50178 is a very old number maybe PRB?

TC12195 is the 3/8 wide seal @ $3.07ea

Other than the 1/3” stock that Statewide have the next closest off the shelf seal is

CR 23742 Full Metal Case Dual Lip @ $11.43 ea...these would be a big improvement construction wise than the TC12195

[omvanders]

LOL.....I probably have more buying power than you, we spend 10’s of thousands of dollars with them.

Fair enough then :)

I've had some further advice whilst ringing around that adding some "hard setting gasket" to the seal once in place would prevent it from popping out that spare 1/8".
Sounds like a plan!

[omvanders]

Rang my rep at CBC

50178 is a very old number maybe PRB?

TC12195 is the 3/8 wide seal @ $3.07ea

Other than the 1/3” stock that Statewide have the next closest off the shelf seal is

CR 23742 Full Metal Case Dual Lip @ $11.43 ea...these would be a big improvement construction wise than the TC12195


OK then. I'll be sure to run that by CBC also when I pick up the ordered ones tomorrow. Cheers for that.

[weeds]

Onto my other supplier BSC (has same owner as CBC I believe) have 230 of the 1/2” wide in stock ex sydney.

Part number is E237.337.50
$6.00ea + GST and postage.

Oh my prices my above would be ex GST, all our prices my is always ex GST

Hopefully this info will help others.

[omvanders]

Onto my other supplier BSC (has same owner as CBC I believe) have 230 of the 1/2” wide in stock ex sydney.

Part number is E237.337.50
$6.00ea + GST and postage.

Oh my prices my above would be ex GST, all our prices my is always ex GST

Hopefully this info will help others.

That's interesting. BSC in Lonsdale SA couldn't help me the other day. I've rung them just now and they're getting them in at $8.00 each ex GST which is fine by me.

Thanks again, and as you say others might find this helpful also.

OMV

[weeds]

That's interesting. BSC in Lonsdale SA couldn't help me the other day. I've rung them just now and they're getting them in at $8.00 each ex GST which is fine by me.

Thanks again, and as you say others might find this helpful also.

OMV

My BSC guy had to dig deep....easy if they seal had actually been stocked in their store, a little harder searching other stores.