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Nicky
7th March 2015, 10:05 AM
My brand new 2015 D4 has a vibration between 60 and 85 kph. Wheel balance?
Would any dealer do this under warranty?
Epic pooh
7th March 2015, 10:23 AM
I had a vibration like that recently --> large screw hanging out of my tyre and a slow leak. More likely to be fallen off balance weight.
Call them, can't hurt, but likely to be quicker to take it to a tyre place.
Nicky
7th March 2015, 10:33 AM
I had a vibration like that recently --> large screw hanging out of my tyre and a slow leak. More likely to be fallen off balance weight.
Call them, can't hurt, but likely to be quicker to take it to a tyre place.
Had zero weights on the wheels, don't want to pay a tyre place!
JamesH
7th March 2015, 11:02 AM
Apart from say tyre pressure, windshield clean and fuel, I reckon a MY15 should go back to the dealer for everything no matter how trivial.
Nicky
7th March 2015, 07:44 PM
Apart from say tyre pressure, windshield clean and fuel, I reckon a MY15 should go back to the dealer for everything no matter how trivial.
Now have noticed more wear on the outside of the kerbside tyre at 600 kms.
Has the tyre been swapped?
theins
7th March 2015, 07:48 PM
Apart from say tyre pressure, windshield clean and fuel, I reckon a MY15 should go back to the dealer for everything no matter how trivial.
Spot on
LandyAndy
7th March 2015, 07:54 PM
Sounds more like an alignment issue.
I would take it back,although not really a warranty issue it will need to go to a dealer to get put into"tight tolerance"mode on the suspension before it can be wheel aligned.
I would have thought they would want to look after you seeing you just spent upwards of $80grand with them.
If the tyre is showing wear badly and they wont renew it put that wheel to the spare.Once tyres start wearing irregularly they generally continue to do so even if the issue is fixed.
Let us know what they say.
GOODLUCK
Andrew
scarry
7th March 2015, 08:49 PM
Now have noticed more wear on the outside of the kerbside tyre at 600 kms.
Has the tyre been swapped?
If you can notice after 600k's,something is not right,i would go back to dealer ASAP.
Most tyre guys have no idea what they are doing with a D3/4.
My tyres have 40K on them and i can notice very slight inside wear,which is probably normal for a vehicle with Independent suspension.
As far as i know it has never had a wheel alignment since new.
Nicky
8th March 2015, 07:28 AM
;):wasntme::wasntme:
Sounds more like an alignment issue.
I would take it back,although not really a warranty issue it will need to go to a dealer to get put into"tight tolerance"mode on the suspension before it can be wheel aligned.
GOODLUCK
Andrew
Wouldn't you say it was a warranty issue?
scarry
8th March 2015, 09:41 AM
;):wasntme::wasntme:
Wouldn't you say it was a warranty issue?
Yes,100%,particularly with only 600k on it.
LR are generally very good with this type of thing, in my experience.
Sure you could have hit something hard to upset something but i am guessing there would be other signs such as tyre or rim damage,for example.
I would be very surprised if they don't just sort it,you won't have an issue.
jonesfam
8th March 2015, 10:21 AM
Had zero weights on the wheels, don't want to pay a tyre place!
Wouldn't that be unusual?
That 4 Tyres balanced without the use of any weights?
I have after market wheels & there are weights all over them.
Jonesfam
BMKal
8th March 2015, 10:26 AM
Wouldn't that be unusual?
That 4 Tyres balanced without the use of any weights?
I have after market wheels & there are weights all over them.
Jonesfam
I would imagine extremely unusual. :o
But if I look at my rims, can't see any weights either ................. until you turn them round and look at the back / inside of the rims. ;)
Nicky
9th March 2015, 07:17 AM
Wouldn't that be unusual?
That 4 Tyres balanced without the use of any weights?
I have after market wheels & there are weights all over them.
Jonesfam
Inside rim has square "weights" apparently glued to the wheel away from the rim, but not the usual tyre-shop lead.
~Rich~
9th March 2015, 09:04 AM
Inside rim has square "weights" apparently glued to the wheel away from the rim, but not the usual tyre-shop lead.
They sound like standard stick on alloy wheel weights, some alloys do not have the lip for the old type weights to clip to.
The stick on ones are quite often placed both close behind the wheel spokes and another row out as wide as they can be to balance the tyre correctly.
BTW I prefer the stick on ones - they do not get ripped off or move when 4wding.
Nicky
12th March 2015, 06:24 AM
My brand new D4 2015 has a drive-line vibration between 60 and 85km/h
Wheels balanced, swapped with another car, no change. Ideas anyone please?
Scouse
12th March 2015, 07:13 AM
Surely the best idea would be to take it back to a Land Rover dealer & have it sorted out under warranty.
Redback
12th March 2015, 07:23 AM
Surely the best idea would be to take it back to a Land Rover dealer & have it sorted out under warranty.
What he said.
Baz.
PeterOZ
12th March 2015, 12:27 PM
My 07 D3 has had a persistent "rumble/resonating type noice for about 3 years now. Comes in around 60 to 65 while you have a sligt amount of throttle on, back off throttle and it goes.
Its not a vibration that I can tell.
Had it to the dealers when it was still on lease, they could not even hear it yet I could easily. MR also could not notice it.
I have heard same noise in a new VW Toureg as well.
Nicky
12th March 2015, 05:11 PM
My 07 D3 has had a persistent "rumble/resonating type noice for about 3 years now. Comes in around 60 to 65 while you have a sligt amount of throttle on, back off throttle and it goes.
Its not a vibration that I can tell.
Had it to the dealers when it was still on lease, they could not even hear it yet I could easily. MR also could not notice it.
I have heard same noise in a new VW Toureg as well.
Now suspect the rear wheels out of balance, will get that done and report.
Scouse
12th March 2015, 06:20 PM
Now suspect the rear wheels out of balance, will get that done and report.Land Rover will love you if you're carrying out the warranty work for them - wheel balance should be a warranty issue up until the first service.
Mungus
12th March 2015, 08:20 PM
Hi Nicky,
You really need to take it back to the dealership to have this sorted. As per your other thread it could be due to a number of reasons including incorrect pre-delivery checks.
Can I ask why you have started a new thread on this? Just curious!
Cheers, Mungus
Nicky
12th March 2015, 11:05 PM
Hi Nicky,
........
Can I ask why you have started a new thread on this? Just curious!
Cheers, Mungus
Not many responses to the previous thread
Nicky
17th March 2015, 07:48 PM
Hi Nicky,
You really need to take it back to the dealership to have this sorted. As per your other thread it could be due to a number of reasons including incorrect pre-delivery checks.
Cheers, Mungus
The dealer has so far isolated this problem to the e-diff .
Not sure how this would account for the symptoms?
SimmAus
20th March 2015, 01:36 PM
Any update?
Nicky
20th March 2015, 10:07 PM
Any update?
Called the service manager, apparently the e-diff was failing, metal filings
in it! Waiting on new diff from UK. Dealer loaned me another D4, nice PR.
Nicky
27th March 2015, 02:15 PM
Called the service manager, apparently the e-diff was failing, metal filings
in it! Waiting on new diff from UK. Dealer loaned me another D4, nice PR.
Installed new e-diff with LRA's approval. This was not the cause of the vibration 60kph to 80kph, so they are now clueless. Any diagnosis or actions? Would selecting neutral at say 70kph help the diagnosis?
Needless to say, I'm extremely disappointed.
Redback
27th March 2015, 02:24 PM
Installed new e-diff with LRA's approval. This was not the cause of the vibration 60kph to 80kph, so they are now clueless. Any diagnosis or actions? Would selecting neutral at say 70kph help the diagnosis?
Needless to say, I'm extremely disappointed.
Transmission(torque convertor) transfer case, out of balance tail shafts, CVs, harmonic balancer, engine mounts, front diff, where does it feel like it's coming from, can you feel it through the steering wheel or floor??
Baz.
Nicky
27th March 2015, 02:43 PM
Transmission(torque convertor) transfer case, out of balance tail shafts, CVs, harmonic balancer, engine mounts, front diff, where does it feel like it's coming from, can you feel it through the steering wheel or floor??
Baz.
Thanks, as well as the steering wheel, I can feel it thru my bum when in the passenger seat
Nicky
31st March 2015, 09:42 PM
Thanks, as well as the steering wheel, I can feel it thru my bum when in the passenger seat
Turns out, it was the rear prop shaft. Makes you really paranoid, an undiagnosed unrelated e-diff problem uncovered during the hunt.
How many un-diagnosed build problems are there, to come out later to bite you, even after the warranty period?
Back to the old LandRover reputation.
Redback
1st April 2015, 09:01 AM
Turns out, it was the rear prop shaft. Makes you really paranoid, an undiagnosed unrelated e-diff problem uncovered during the hunt.
How many un-diagnosed build problems are there, to come out later to bite you, even after the warranty period?
Back to the old LandRover reputation.
At least they found it, some dealers are not renowned for there ability to find things or take any helpful advice.
I remember having a nagging suspension fault, where we kept going back to the dealer with it, they ended up bring LRA into it and even there (expert;)) tech couldn't find it, I had mentioned a couple of times that we kept getting the fault code for the left side height sensor, still no idea.
Anyway, we got a nastey call from them saying that they had found the issue and it was apparently all the weight of the bullbar had destroyed the front airbag assembly and as a good will gesture, replaced them:eek:
I asked if they had replaced the height sensor, he said no, there's nothing wrong with it, it was all the accessories causing the issue:(
:no2:
So my missus had already ordered a sensor from our indy mechanic, so on the way home we dropped in and picked it up.
Next trip, yep, suspension fault again, wipped out the new sensor, replaced it, no more suspension faults:D
Funnily enough, they wouldn't show us the old airbag assembly:whistling::)
Baz.
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