Nanocom Evo for D4

[LandyAndy]

There is an attractive group buy for the Nanocom Evo at the moment.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/group-buy/216541-nanocom-group-buy.html
Those of you using a Nanocom on the D4 is it worth buying one???? I was going to hold out for a Faultmate Extreme later on.They come from the same bussiness.
At the moment the Nanocom isnt listed for MY14 onwards,awaiting a reply from Colin at Black Box Solutions.
Andrew

[Nicky]

Look at thi device first, recommended on UK forums.
IIDTool for Land Rover - GAP Diagnostic (http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/products/iidtool.html)

[LandyAndy]

Thanks Nicky,that looks to be a good unit,anybody got one???
I think I would prefer the Faultmate over most.
Was looking to see how the Nanocom Evo goes in the D4 seeing they were a must have item for D2 owners and many have upgraded to a D4 and kept their Nanocom.I sold my Nanocom with my D2 as it was the first generation and not compatipble with the D4.
Andrew

[jon3950]

Thanks Nicky,that looks to be a good unit,anybody got one???

I've got one and am very happy with it - even happier that it doesn't get used much :).

When I purchased 3 years ago, I felt it was by far the best option on a bang for buck basis and have no regrets with the decision - it does everything I need it to and their support is excellent. Whether or not it currently is I can't honestly say as I haven't looked at the alternatives since I purchased. Don't think you can go too far wrong with either a Gap or Black Box product though, just a matter of picking which option represents the best value for money for you.

Cheers,
Jon

[LRD414]

"I've got one and am very happy with it" ... "I felt it was by far the best option on a bang for buck basis and have no regrets with the decision - it does everything I need it to and their support is excellent."

x2 for me. I haven't had it as long as Jon but I found it the best value when looking late last year and earlier this year. The Bluetooth to phone or pad is a great feature too.

Another factor for me was it seems to be a lot of other people with D3/D4s owning one, meaning another good source of help with using it or interpreting what it says.

Scott

[shanegtr]

X3 for the IID tool. Good value for the $ and easy enough to leave in the glove box all the time. And it's easy to use.

[Epic pooh]

X4 for the iidtool. Support is great, device is easy to use and easy to store in car. Compare the features to others and see what you think you'll actually use - iidtool does all the big ticket ones for me.

[cjc_td5]

There is an attractive group buy for the Nanocom Evo at the moment.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/group-buy/216541-nanocom-group-buy.html
Those of you using a Nanocom on the D4 is it worth buying one???? I was going to hold out for a Faultmate Extreme later on.They come from the same bussiness.
At the moment the Nanocom isnt listed for MY14 onwards,awaiting a reply from Colin at Black Box Solutions.
Andrew

Hi Andy.
I have converted by Nanocom over to a D4 (from a D2). Needed a new cable and D4 unlock file. I have only used it for some CCF edits but it appears to work OK. Mine is a MY14.

Cheers,
Chris

[jliquorish]

Does anybody know where I can purchase an iidtool. Searching on internet doesn't help.

[Epic pooh]

Try island4x4 and then use the model number to shop around. Personally think best to buy ex-UK as freight is minimal.

[drelectro]

Jliquorish,

I've been looking at buying the IIDToool as well though I've not actually done so yet.

The easiest way to buy one that I've found is via :-
DA6408 | Iidtool Bluetooth - Land Rover Part DA6408 (http://www.lrdirect.com/DA6408-Iidtool-Bluetooth?gclid=CJv-3MjK58MCFVWWvQodFFcAXQ)

I've bought some other things via lrdirect and the service / delivery has been great.

Mike

[LRD414]

Got mine from lrdirect and I agree with Mike. I bought a few other things at the same time and that really helped with shipping cost spread over multiple things. The support is not through the supplier, it's directly with Gap so where it comes from isn't critical.

[Ben_Vapid]

Really wish i'd bought an IIDTool before the aussie dollar went into the toilet!

[Mungus]

Does anybody know where I can purchase an iidtool. Searching on internet doesn't help.
I got mine from (BMI) British Motor Imports - email contact is ben@bmiparts.com.au (ben@bmiparts.com.au)


Great tool. Get the BT version, so much easier for reading codes, logging live values etc.. with your iPhone etc.. and then emailing that info direct from the app as well.

[letherm]

Can these be used to adjust suspension height or are they a purely diagnostic tool? I would like to lower the car below normal access height if possible as my wife is disabled and this would help her get into the car more easily.

Pardon my ignorance please :D

Martin

[LandyAndy]

Great question Martin,it would help my Mrs out too.
Im thinking LLams is the answer,lets hear what the brains trust has to say.
Cheers
Andrew

[shanegtr]

Can these be used to adjust suspension height or are they a purely diagnostic tool? I would like to lower the car below normal access height if possible as my wife is disabled and this would help her get into the car more easily.

Pardon my ignorance please :D

Martin

With the IID tool you can, but its only changing the normal height calibration - so you'd have to lower the normal height by say 20mm. that would then give a 20mm lower access height, but also a lower offroad height as well. If you want to go changing the height all the time then LLAMS would be the way to go

[Tombie]

Llams will really help you Andy and Martin.

Especially the extra extra low function...

[LRD414]

Can these be used to adjust suspension height or are they a purely diagnostic tool? I would like to lower the car below normal access height if possible as my wife is disabled and this would help her get into the car more easily.



Pardon my ignorance please :D



Martin


I agree, Llams is much more convenient for this type of use. It's been helpful when I've wanted to take my 94 year old neighbour to run errands. She's not very mobile and got in & out quite well on Llams access height.

The iidtool is pretty quick but no where near Llams. Also, a diagnostic tool is directly changing calibration. IMO Llams is less invasive.

Scott

[SBD4]

Just a reminder for any one wanting a diagnostic tool, the group buy set up by Black Box Solutions for their nanocom diagnostic tool will end on 31st July.

Here are the instructions on how to participate:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/group-buy/216541-nanocom-group-buy-11.html#post2367145

Here's the link to their online store for the nanocom evolution:
Shop - NANOCOM Evolution (http://www.nanocom-diagnostics.com/shop.php)

[Fred Nerk]

I am another Iidtool owner. I have the Bluetooth version.
When you first use the device it copies and stores all the data so that if you screw it up you should be able to restore and start over.

Adjustment and resets fault reading can be done with cruise control buttons, the radio buttons and/or by Bluetooth connection to a phone or tablet.

I have saved a few suspension configurations to the memory on the device. Provided the doors are shut and the engine running the car can be reconfigured with a similar effect as changing suspension rods. Very easy. Impresses the spectators if done from the phone when outside the car.

[PeterJ]

Chalk up another IIDTool vote.......the Bluetooth version. I got mine in April, ordered direct from lrdirect, $629.23 which was half the cost of the Aust importer. Now, I am all for supporting local business but $1250 is a bit rich.

The IIDTool is great, easy to use and set up. Coming back from Darwin, towing the van (3.2t) was monitoring auto oil temps, engine torque, gear selection, eng air temps and a couple of other things. You can write a data file and download it. I was interested in the fact that the D4 seems to spend more time in 7th than in 8th at 95 kph so I was watching temps and torque and playing around with speed to look for a sweet spot that would hold top. No success but I will keep playing. I have yet to set up the EAS user heights, but I think they will work well as long as you don't need to change things frequently. The unit when plugged in to the On Board Diagnostic (OBD) port fouls the foot a bit when going from accelerator to brake, I am going to look into a minor relocation of the OBD port or an extension cable. The process of writing to the Car Configuration File (CCF) is a bit lengthy with lots of re-boots but it is OK once you have done it once. I tried to change the correction value for the trip computer, found it made little difference to the error, still seems to read 1.5 l/100 low. Also tried to turn on Daytime Running Lights (DRL) but it seems my 13MY HSE does not have the hardware to support DRL. It's fun checking it all out, well worth the $ and your time investment to understand how to use it.

Hope this helps........Peter

[jonesy63]

Just to show some balance, I bought the Nanocom Evo on the initial group buy. I've used it a few times now, to put D4 into tight tolerance mode before wheel alignment and back to normal afterwards. I've also twice removed the adaptations from auto after changing ATF. Then there are the reading and removal of fault codes.

IID looks easier to use, but after the discount - it was also more expensive. So I voted with my wallet! :)

[TerryO]

Both the Nanocom and IID tool obviously do a good job but is one better than the other? Or do they both do the same job?

[Damo4runner]

TerryO I believe that they do in fact do roughly the same thing, but one is a lot cheaper than the other, tick tick tick cause the current group buy is about to end. I really want the IID TOOL but I may settle for the Nanocom as the price is really good. Really I will use it 3-4 times and then it will just sit in the glovebox and only be used if the car throws a code, touch wood that has't happened yet. The decision should be made on what you WILL do with it not what you think you MIGHT do with it.

[TerryO]

Thanks Damo, I understand that one is much cheaper than the other, which is great. But forgetting price for a minute which one is best and why?

[SBD4]

Thanks Damo, I understand that one is much cheaper than the other, which is great. But forgetting price for a minute which one is best and why?

This might help a little Terry:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - NANOCOM EVO v IID BT (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic123063.html)

[Redback]

This might help a little Terry:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - NANOCOM EVO v IID BT (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic123063.html)

I enjoyed that link for a whole other reason, tayaste:D

We have the Faultmate MSV-2, works really well, a lot more expensive though, also has a lot more software addons available too, when we originally got it, we thought we were getting the multi vehicle licence, but it turned out we didn't, but it's fine, we have only tried to use it on another vehicle once in the 4 years we have had it anyway.

Baz.

[SBD4]

Terry, Baz has reminded me of an important point, I understand the IID BT tool is VIN locked where as the nanocom is not. With the number of vehicles you have the nanocom might be best.

[TerryO]

Terry, Baz has reminded me of an important point, I understand the IID BT tool is VIN locked where as the nanocom is not. With the number of vehicles you have the nanocom might be best.

Hi Sean,

I have actually sold the D2a so down to just three, I have a Hawkeye for the D3 so that's more than covered. That is why I am looking at what tool to get for the D4. But chances are in the near future we will end up with two D4's so yes more than likely a NanoCom is the go. I have asked Colin if they work with the V8, once he answers I will decide.

[Mungus]

Terry, Baz has reminded me of an important point, I understand the IID BT tool is VIN locked where as the nanocom is not. With the number of vehicles you have the nanocom might be best.



IIDTool is VIN locked for enhanced functions as per below;
Standard diagnostic functions (all supported vehicles):
Fault read /clear
Live values
Control outputs
Service / test functions

Enhanced diagnostic functions (locked to VIN or requires additional VIN license for other vehicles):
Component and system calibration
Height changes
CCF editing
ECU flashing
ECU Info
Save / restore(suspension and CCF)

Vehicles Supported
Discovery3/LR3 L319 2004-09
Discovery4/LR4 L319 2010 and up
Range Rover L322 2002-12
Range Rover Sport L320 2005-13
Range Rover L405
Range Rover Sport L494
Freelander 2/LR2 L359
Range Rover Evoque L538
Defender L316 2007-15

[dazray]

Which cable to get?


NANOCOM Evolution Left Hand Angle Extension Lead or
NANOCOM Evolution Right Hand Angle Extension Lead


Darren..

[Mungus]

A recent thread has lead me to ask this;


Does the Nanocom show the fault code (DTC) description or just the number?

[rufusking]

Blackbox have a number of youtube clips showing their products including the Nanocom Evolution.


See if this takes you there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlsfoEKzJaI
otherwise search " Nanocom for CAN Bus Vehicles " within youtube.


I've been very happy with mine. There web portal " Genesis " has a useful tool to compare CCF's from different vehicles based on their VIN which I've found handy when I've made alterations to the vehicle. VIN's are now easy to come by since the deletion of registration labels. Both QLD and VIC allow you to search a vehicles current registration status and as part of that provide a full VIN so when you see a vehicle with the fitted features you may want to upgrade to just note their rego and search on the various sites. Many of the car sales sites both AU and USA provide VIN's with the vehicle description. You can also use these VIN's within Topix to get an as-built configuration.