Registration / Number Plates

[jimr1]

I have a question that someone may be able to answer , over the last week or so I have noticed a few cars sitting on the roads with no number plates . I'm thinking have these been stopped for having no rego , if so do the plates get removed ? Jim

[p38arover]

Dunno about Vic, but they do in NSW.

[Mick_Marsh]

Yes. I have seen lots of them and done the same myself several times.
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registration/limited-use-permits/unregistered-vehicle-permits
If you are stopped by the police and your plates are removed because the vehicle is unregistered, you cannot drive it unless you hav a UVP.

[Roverlord off road spares]

It might be that people do not have the reminder of a sticker on there car to let them when the rego is due. I have left mine on my car so I can remember it. As people miss lay there bill and forget it. So I would say that we will be seeing many car pulled of the roads and there plates taken off. Heather

[ATH]

That's the stupid thing all govs seem to be moving to...doing away with rego stickers.
Considering the amounts they reckon they're saving are so small compared to the vast amounts they waste generally, it's pathetic.
I believe in WA the cops computer system has been so overwhelmed by rego defaulters they turned it off in patrol cars.
AlanH.

[bsperka]

Btw: The system only checks that the plate is associated to a car that has had rego paid, it doesn't check that the plate is on that car . Ie Number plate recognition, not vehicle recognition. Pointed this out when i was working in the transport department. So..... pay rego for every car and do the right thing otherwise you aren't covered under CTP.

[bob10]

I keep a copy of my registration details in my glove box. Plus insurance details. Not saying I don't trust the new system to be efficient, and for it not to be influenced by human nature..... But I don't. Bob

[Ausfree]

I also think the removal of rego stickers is just plain dumb. However, when your rego is due you do get enough reminders, my rego is due late next month and I have just today in the mail received my green slip reminder.

Shortly I will get the rego notice, so that alone is two warnings that rego is coming due. I only own one car but I could imagine if you own several cars, it would be harder to keep track of.

Nothing like looking at the rego label to find out when rego is due.

[p38arover]

Get a chinagraph pencil and write it in the top RH corner of the windscreen.

[JDNSW]

I keep a copy of my registration details in my glove box. Plus insurance details. Not saying I don't trust the new system to be efficient, and for it not to be influenced by human nature..... But I don't. Bob

Very helpful for the bloke who steals it!

John

[350RRC]

Another 'interesting' one ...

A business associate and mate has a big delivery van a couple of years old.

Gets pulled over via number plate recognition, unreg.

Has rego papers with receipt number handy, nup, unreg. $900 ish fine, can't continue his delivery run until he gets a temporary reg, dunno what that cost.

Calls Vicroads and after a bit of verbal discourse, yes he paid by internet or Bpay but must have typed in a wrong digit or something. AFAIK the amount was debited from his account at the time.

No reminder notice in Vic. According to the person from Vicroads he spoke to it is becoming a relatively common prob.

take care out there!

DL

He's appealing the fine, haven't heard of any result.

[BMKal]

Very helpful for the bloke who steals it!

John

Yep. I would never carry any paperwork, rego or otherwise, in the car for exactly that reason. ;)

[LandyAndy]

I got stopped by a mojocycle cop in the city last year in my work ute,he tells me the numberplate belongs to a different vehicle.Told him he was wrong as I know what vehicle had the plate before.Told him it was a red toyota hilux 2wd registered to the Shire of Williams.
He confirmed this,I was told to get it sorted asap.
On checking at the office which is also a rego licensing agent the official government records did show the red hilux,BUT,reciepts from licencing showed my work ute since it was purchased new in 2006.
Andrew

[jimr1]

One of my criticisms with the system of rego fees , is there compounded . Now I now we have to pay for our roads and bridges , plus all the other infrastructure ,The problem is It's starting to become unfordable for lots of lower paid people . So if they get caught without rego , then hit with a big fine , that just makes things worse . I can't see how rego can keep rising ahead wages . There has to be a balance , at the moment I can't see that !!.. Jim

[Mick_Marsh]

Another 'interesting' one ...

A business associate and mate has a big delivery van a couple of years old.

Gets pulled over via number plate recognition, unreg.

Has rego papers with receipt number handy, nup, unreg. $900 ish fine, can't continue his delivery run until he gets a temporary reg, dunno what that cost.

Calls Vicroads and after a bit of verbal discourse, yes he paid by internet or Bpay but must have typed in a wrong digit or something. AFAIK the amount was debited from his account at the time.

No reminder notice in Vic. According to the person from Vicroads he spoke to it is becoming a relatively common prob.

take care out there!

DL

He's appealing the fine, haven't heard of any result.
I was stopped at a random breath testing station. Copper says "Park in front of the police car." I did. After a while (I nearly drove off they took so much time) a copper came over and asked me "Do you have a reason for driving an unregistered vehicle?"
"I'm not driving an unregistered vehicle." I replied.
He then invited me to view the registration details on the computer in the police car. He thought information on the computer constituted proof. I pointed out the database on the computer might not be up to date as I had recently paid the registration (and, yes, the label was fixed to the car). He told me "Computers don't get it wrong."
As soon as I heard that I knew I was dealing with a dickhead.
"Just give me the fine." I said. But, no, he insisted on giving me a lecture on how dangerous it was to drive an unregistered vehicle. Fell in one deaf ear, though.
At the end of the lecture, he gave me the fine. I said "I'll see you in court."
"That's your choice." he said wanting the last word.
At my earliest opportunity I rang Vicroads. As it turns out, my vehicle was showing as unregistered on the Vicroads computer as well. When I asked why as my registration had been paid they told me my vehicle was in fact registered bus, due to under staffing, the registration processing was running six to eight weeks late and the police computers were about ten weeks out of date.
I bought an official Vicroads receipt and sent that off with a copy of the fine to Senior Sergeant Ritchie at the Traffic infringements Office wit a letter stating "See you in court." He replied with a letter simply stating "We will not be pursuing this matter any further."

[p38arover]

At my earliest opportunity I rang Vicroads. As it turns out, my vehicle was showing as unregistered on the Vicroads computer as well. When I asked why as my registration had been paid they told me my vehicle was in fact registered bus, due to under staffing, the registration processing was running six to eight weeks late

If you pay on-line, don't you get an immediate emailed receipt (with receipt no. which we have to write onto our rego papers) like we do in NSW?

[p38arover]

Yes. I have seen lots of them and done the same myself several times.

Why are you removing number plates from unregistered vehicles?

[sam_d]

This probably won't be the most popular AULRO post ever (and it essentially covers two threads) but I am confused about how people can complain about the "nanny state" not trusting people to use their judgment when tying down their loads properly with a rope yet are up in arms when the same "nanny state" won't give them a little sticker to remind them when to pay their rego.

Seriously, if you can't handle the responsibility of remembering when your rego is due (despite the letters the RMS/whoever and your insurers send you) then I don't think I'd trust your judgement and ability to tie a knot either.

[Mick_Marsh]

If you pay on-line, don't you get an immediate emailed receipt (with receipt no. which we have to write onto our rego papers) like we do in NSW?
I pay by cheque at the post office. One is not required to carry registration papers and proof of registration in the car.

[Mick_Marsh]

Why are you removing number plates from unregistered vehicles?
Here in Victoria, it is a requirement to hand in plates when de-registering a vehicle which I have done, however, I was referring to driving an unregistered vehicle, without plates, on an unregistered vehicle permit.
In fact, the correct way to drive a vehicle on a UVP is to remove the plates, otherwise, a pedantic copper will charge you with driving an unregistered vehicle if you leave the plates on.

[p38arover]

I pay by cheque at the post office. One is not required to carry registration papers and proof of registration in the car.

Pay on line and the computers will be up to date.

No requirement to carry papers here, either but it would be easy to put the details into one's phone - or actually leave the downloaded email on one's phone.

[jimr1]

So if your court driving an unregistered vehicle , and the plates are removed . You pay your rego , you pay the fine ! Do you get your plates back ? or do you have to get new plates ? I can't see the police taken number plates back to vic roads . Jim ;)

[Mick_Marsh]

So if your court driving an unregistered vehicle , and the plates are removed . You pay your rego , you pay the fine ! Do you get your plates back ? or do you have to get new plates ? I can't see the police taken number plates back to vic roads . Jim ;)
In that situation, new plates, new rego number. Oh, it is considered a new registration so a RWC has to be provided. If you wanted the old registration number, that would be considered a custom plate so you can add at least an extra $250 on to that.
This happened to a mate. He didn't pay his rego for three years. At the end of the process he reckoned he was ahead.