Has anyone used VN front hubs

[Ean Austral]

Gday All,


Has anyone used VN commodore or similar model commodore front hubs on their trailer/caravan. I see they are 5 x 120 PCD and have the hubs and bearings as 1 unit.


Cheers Ean

[Scouse]

I have Commodore front hubs/discs on my car trailer but mine runs conventional tapered bearings.

I can't remember exactly what model Commodore they came off but I thought it was a VN.


I didn't think VNs had a hub assy like the D2 though.

[Ean Austral]

I have Commodore front hubs/discs on my car trailer but mine runs conventional tapered bearings.

I can't remember exactly what model Commodore they came off but I thought it was a VN.


I didn't think VNs had a hub assy like the D2 though.


VN is around 1990 so pretty old type set up.


I looked at some commodore trailer hubs at a trailer parts shop and wondered what/if there was any difference to the early commodore front hubs.


Cheers Ean

[Scouse]

I looked at some commodore trailer hubs at a trailer parts shop These were a hub/bearing assy like a D2 ?

[LandyAndy]

VE hubs match a D2 PCD and have the 14mm studs;););););) A spacer ring will be needed for the hub.Im not up to speed on the D3/D4 equivelent yet.
Have seen HSV wheels on a D2,looked ok too.
Andrew

[67hardtop]

Hi, vn/p commodore use normal type taper roller bearings. Vr/s and up use an intergrated bearing and hub assy. You can change ur old style holden trailer or caravan wheels 13" or 14" and hubs over to early commodore type by using commodore hubs and rims. Or if u needed wider track u can bolt on hq and up rims. Early 13 and 14 Inch rims are getting very hard to get now. Just make sure to use the right seals. Ive done this conversion heaps of times. It dosent matter if the discs are undersize coz ur not using the discs, just the hubs. Hope this helps.

Cheers Rod

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[BigJon]

You shouldn't use HQ-WB wheels on Commodore hubs (or vice versa), they are a different stud pattern.

[67hardtop]

[QUOTE=BigJon;2340246]You shouldn't use HQ-WB wheels on Commodore hubs (or vice versa),







Yes they are. the difference is about 1 mm in the PCD but they still fit ok


Cheers Rod:wasntme:

[Redback]

Yes the early commodores were still 4 3/4" PCD, same as the HQ, which is 120.65mm where as the later commodores(not sure when they changed) are 120mm PCD.

If I was going to electric brakes there are two options, buy the commodore 10" braked hubs and punch the 7/16 studs out and drill them to fit M14 studs, this is what I did when I went to Disc brakes on my camper, trouble with this is, if you stuff a hub, you can't replace it, for me I had to buy a standard non braked hub and wheel nuts to replace the stuffed hub, so we could carry on and get home, I tried everywhere to buy a disc brake hub, but it's not something trailer places stock, it's an order in item, I actually still carry this non braked hub as a spare, so when I got home, I ordered the new drum brake hubs from Melbourne trailers.

I'm pretty sure Melbourne Trailers will supply 10" brake hubs in 120 PCD with M14 studs, if they do 9 1/4 in 120 PCD and M14 studs as they did for me, can't see why not.

Baz.

[Davehoos]

trailer parts we use recommend HT holden bolt pattern or ford pattern.
ford use 1/2 thread.


purchased set of 13 X 5 gal multi pattern wheels last week for $45 each.
these had a lot of offset.


the old trailers we have from mid 1990's use VB-VK rims. the studs are weak and the rims are offset [inward] lots. to replace hubs with recent parts we have to alter the axle length.


My car trailer fitted with 9 inch drum with ford studs. they used hilux and magna rims. I have 18 inch AU falcon rims that fit with the same track.

[BigJon]

[QUOTE=BigJon;2340246]You shouldn't use HQ-WB wheels on Commodore hubs (or vice versa),







Yes they are. the difference is about 1 mm in the PCD but they still fit ok


Cheers Rod:wasntme:

They fit ok until the studs break and the wheel falls off.

I would never do it and I certainly wouldn't suggest that anyone else does it.

[Redback]

trailer parts we use recommend HT holden bolt pattern or ford pattern.
ford use 1/2 thread.


purchased set of 13 X 5 gal multi pattern wheels last week for $45 each.
these had a lot of offset.


the old trailers we have from mid 1990's use VB-VK rims. the studs are weak and the rims are offset [inward] lots. to replace hubs with recent parts we have to alter the axle length.


My car trailer fitted with 9 inch drum with ford studs. they used hilux and magna rims. I have 18 inch AU falcon rims that fit with the same track.

You obviously have a Land Rover, so why don't you use Land Rover rims and hubs, I'm assuming you have a series, Defender, RRC or D1, that pattern is an off the shelf item at trailer places.

The issue here is the later D2/P38/D3/D4 120PCD, I think he wants to match the trailer to his tow vehicle, which is 120PCD and M14 x 1.5 pitch thread studs, which only comes on the later Commodores as he has mentioned.

For the life of me, I will never understand why the Caravan and trailer indutry is still using imperial products, every other industry in the world uses Metric, even the American car indutry is metric, all Japanese vehicles are metric, so why are Land Cruiser hubs and studs from AL-KO imperial, and why are Commodore studs for the 120PCD hubs still 7/16ths, when the car has M14 X 1.5 pitch thread studs, AL-KO is a Europian company, so why is AL-KO Australia still using and making imperial products:confused:

Amazing really,

Baz.

[Davehoos]

for a business these days you almost have to use commercial available parts or trailers. I work for local government. the heavy plant trailers we have use land cruiser split rims, with 7.50 X16. new fuel trailer is 1500kg single axle with chinese 8x16 white spoke with electric braked axles.
the notes at work have land rover wheel pattern 5-6.5 with dexter bearings as the highest load capacity. DEXTER web sit no longer list this pattern.this would have been written in the 70's when the council had a fleet or rovers and fire vehicles-dean trailers.


I have personally a ser3 1978 88 as a daily fitted with original ROH rims and 2 early alloy wheeled disco and a range rover as farm wrecks. In the Newcastle NSW region it almost impossible to buy land rover stud trailer parts.


I was in Newcastle last week to buy rims for my ser3 with 0 off set the only available rims are 7X16 speedy wheels and they are only available with stock orders and the stock had already be sold off for the next few months.


sunday job I have 1 only disco spare steel wheel on the range rover that I have to get off and test fit on the ser 3. unable to turn nuts last time.
I have a set of county/defender tubeless rims I happy to swap someone locally for a sunraiser or wheel spacers to alow my to fit the range rover 3 spokes