Puma oils

[Nathan1975]

My 2.2 puma is getting close to 10,000klm.What oils should I change plus what grade oils do i use.Also will this affect my warranty.
thanks

[Loubrey]

I'd imagine if you used the correct Castrol oil (one of the guys will pipe up with the correct grade and Professional suffix) and filter and you didn't tell them there shouldn't be an issue. Buying it is not as easy as it would seem though. If you find it you'll most probably have to buy at least 25 liters.

The fact remains that they take a dim view on anyone touching Defenders in warranty, especially if they can use it to wiggle out of warranty claims. My dealer never balked at doing services at 10,000km intervals and they are in reality no more expensive than the indie guys here in Perth.

Cheers,

Lou

[AndyG]

Strictly speaking none, until 20,000km, unless you have been doing arduous work. Have a browse lots of info, join up and download the maintenance schedule and buy the workshop manual in the shop.

[spudboy]

See this thread for some info on the proper oil to use....

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/126770-puma-oil-change-easy-pie.html

[AndyG]

And from the Castrol site, and i put the details on the other thread

For Puma 2011-2015
Models without Diesel Particulate FIlter (DPF), use CASTROL EDGE PROFESSIONAL A5 5W-30.

Now you try and find some, be easier to find gold rocking horse ****

Opportunity for you vendors out there

and from LR itself
http://www.landrover.com/ownership/castrol-oil/index.html

[Grappler]

For the motor the spec for the 2.2 without DPF is A5 5W-30 WSS/M2C913B/C

Ive been using Total Quartz 9000 NFC A 5W-30 because it is easy to buy in small quantity and its a fraction the cost of Castrol.

Use a genuine LR filter and replace the sump plug. The ford filters with the chevron pattern look better as they have a larger surface area and will be using them now that warranty has expired

[PAT303]

MM LR sell a very good service kit using Mahle filters that are made in Germany at a fraction of LR/Ford Oz prices shipped to your door,Britpart make the Chevron style filters that can be sourced on their own or in a service kit also. Pat

[spudfan]

For the motor the spec for the 2.2 without DPF is A5 5W-30 WSS/M2C913B/C

Ive been using Total Quartz 9000 NFC A 5W-30 because it is easy to buy in small quantity and its a fraction the cost of Castrol.

Use a genuine LR filter and replace the sump plug. The ford filters with the chevron pattern look better as they have a larger surface area and will be using them now that warranty has expired
I also use Total in my 2008 Puma. Last year (at 6 years old) I had an engine change owing to the PCJ issue. Land Rover wanted to check the service history naturally enough. One of the services was not carried out by the maindealer so they wanted proof of the oil used etc. I had the receipt etc for the Total Quartz and Land Rover was happy with it. Very good oil.

[ozrob]

I use Penrite oils in my 2013 Puma, in the 5w40 engine oil.
Repco and Super cheap stock them so getting it when i need it is no problem,
10 lt of HPR Diesel 5 is around $90...and what's left over i can use in the motorcycles...

[scarry]

I use Penrite oils in my 2013 Puma, in the 5w40 engine oil.
Repco and Super cheap stock them so getting it when i need it is no problem,
10 lt of HPR Diesel 5 is around $90...and what's left over i can use in the motorcycles...

HPR Diesel 5 is not fully synthetic,therefore not LR spec for the Puma.

HPR 5 is fully synthetic and the oil to use.

While the vehicle is under warranty,very important to use the specified oil.

[Grappler]

I also use Total in my 2008 Puma. Last year (at 6 years old) I had an engine change owing to the PCJ issue. Land Rover wanted to check the service history naturally enough. One of the services was not carried out by the maindealer so they wanted proof of the oil used etc. I had the receipt etc for the Total Quartz and Land Rover was happy with it. Very good oil.

Usually good at TLAs, but PCJ has me stumped ....crankshaft journal????

[PAT303]

The correct Penrite oil is Enviro+ C4,supercheap can order it for you,I paid $90 for 10ltres. Pat

[scarry]

Usually good at TLAs, but PCJ has me stumped ....crankshaft journal????

Piston cooling jets ?

[spudfan]

Aye that is correct.

Land Rover Service Bulletin SSM38792, Date Uploaded: 21 Jul 2008 Models: LD - Defender Title: 2.4 Puma Engine Knock Noise. Last Modified: 21-JUL-2008 09:44 Category: Engine Symptom: 497000 Engine Noise Content Issue: Heavy audible knocking heard on start up. Cause: On start up oil pressures can cause the piston cooling jets, (PCJ), to latch into a zero flow condition. Due to hysteresis effect in design the jets do not unlatch until the engine is warm and the oil pressures lower again. During this time with no pressurized oil jet flow to the lower pistons / cylinder bores, overheat and scuff conditions / damage can occur. Action: Replace the engine assy but ensure only engines post serial # ELD00080707063602 are used. This condition will not occur on vehicles post assured Vin# 9A767162. Engines post the info above are fitted with modified PCJ internal springs and this issue is now closed

[Grappler]

For the motor the spec for the 2.2 without DPF is A5 5W-30 WSS/M2C913B/C

Ive been using Total Quartz 9000 NFC A 5W-30 because it is easy to buy in small quantity and its a fraction the cost of Castrol.

Use a genuine LR filter and replace the sump plug. The ford filters with the chevron pattern look better as they have a larger surface area and will be using them now that warranty has expired



The 2.2 was delivered with the Ford type "chevron pattern" oil filter fitted. I have been using the genuine LR straight fluted filters because I was not able to source them up until recently
The filter on the left is a Cooper WC078 and looks like the Ford original. Because of its greater surface area and strength, I believe this is the better choice given all the other spec are equal

[big harold]

The correct Penrite oil is Enviro+ C4,supercheap can order it for you,I paid $90 for 10ltres. Pat
Enviro is only for DPF vehicles.

[justinc]

Enviro is only for DPF vehicles.

Can use it anyway, its overspec. Its what I use.