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BMKal
13th April 2015, 04:35 PM
Not sure if this should go in "Technical Chatter" or "Diagnostics" or wherever - mods please move as appropriate.

While at Melrose, one of the members of the SA Land Rover Register showed me a remote multimeter that he had fitted to the auxiliary battery mounted in the back of his D4. Output is via Bluetooth to mobile phone or any Bluetooth capable device (iPad, laptop etc).

I'm thinking of getting one to monitor the charge in my aux. battery which is fitted as part of the Traxide kit - and possibly a second wired to the main cranking battery. Both can be monitored from the mobile phone or other device.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/886.jpg

The Device is a "Mooshimeter" - web page is https://moosh.im/mooshimeter

p38arover
13th April 2015, 06:27 PM
Tool Time?

Looks very useful. Thanks for that BMK.

p38arover
13th April 2015, 06:42 PM
Single prices is $120, a three pack is $300. I'm assuming US$.

Some years ago I bought a data logger to do some stuff that this thing will do much more easily. I think I'll try to buy one of these items.

superquag
13th April 2015, 09:10 PM
Single prices is $120, a three pack is $300. I'm assuming US$.

Some years ago I bought a data logger to do some stuff that this thing will do much more easily. I think I'll try to buy one of these items.

.. With your record of buying things coloured yellow, do you think that's wise? ... let's hope they opt for blue.

:wasntme:

J:twisted:

p38arover
13th April 2015, 09:27 PM
Colour isn't an issue with my purchases. The big problem is that I made the purchase. :(

Maybe my wife can order them? :angel:

Basil135
13th April 2015, 10:33 PM
I was only trying to find this today.

I did find a similar thing, made by Hummingbird Electronics.

Hummingbird Electronics Pty Limited - Bluetooth Devices (http://hmbe.com.au/t/bluetooth)


Around the same price too.

superquag
14th April 2015, 12:08 AM
Now that you've got me going...

Car battery monitor here:- https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/carchecker-real-car-battery/id531187431'mt=8

The home page with lots of interesting goodies...

HMB | TEC GmbH Entwicklung, Produktion und Vertrieb elektronischer Systeme (http://shop.hmb-tec.de/)

Ranga
14th April 2015, 02:49 PM
Looks good, but I think I'll wait until they're mass produced an under $20...

drivesafe
14th April 2015, 06:25 PM
Hi folks and can I make a suggestion??????

There are a lot of smart IT people on this forum, so why not get our heads together and see if we can't develop our own monitors.

I already manufacture a wireless breakaway battery monitor ( Australia's first ) for a large wholesaler and I'm in the process of developing a far more comprehensive system.

I have looked at developing a system around using smart phones and tablets as the in-cab display but I have no hope of developing the apps.

The device shown here is a great idea but not really suited to automotive use beyond voltage monitoring.

You need something that can monitor a few hundred amps, not 10 amps, and so developing our own could be beneficial in that we could develop a system for a wider customer base.

Again, this is just a suggestion.

Homestar
14th April 2015, 06:51 PM
Hi folks and can I make a suggestion??????

There are a lot of smart IT people on this forum, so why not get our heads together and see if we can't develop our own monitors.

I already manufacture a wireless breakaway battery monitor ( Australia's first ) for a large wholesaler and I'm in the process of developing a far more comprehensive system.

I have looked at developing a system around using smart phones and tablets as the in-cab display but I have no hope of developing the apps.

The device shown here is a great idea but not really suited to automotive use beyond voltage monitoring.

You need something that can monitor a few hundred amps, not 10 amps, and so developing our own could be beneficial in that we could develop a system for a wider customer base.

Again, this is just a suggestion.

That has some merit, and you right an out the limitations for automotive use, but I wasn't even thinking automotive use for this device for myself. :)

BMKal
14th April 2015, 08:55 PM
Hi folks and can I make a suggestion??????

There are a lot of smart IT people on this forum, so why not get our heads together and see if we can't develop our own monitors.

I already manufacture a wireless breakaway battery monitor ( Australia's first ) for a large wholesaler and I'm in the process of developing a far more comprehensive system.

I have looked at developing a system around using smart phones and tablets as the in-cab display but I have no hope of developing the apps.

The device shown here is a great idea but not really suited to automotive use beyond voltage monitoring.

You need something that can monitor a few hundred amps, not 10 amps, and so developing our own could be beneficial in that we could develop a system for a wider customer base.

Again, this is just a suggestion.

I'd definitely be interested in something along these lines. Unfortunately I don't have any skills in either IT or electronics, so not much help there. But if I can assist in any other way, would be happy to. ;)

Basil135
14th April 2015, 09:17 PM
Yup, I am in.

Might have to set up a AULRO crowd funding :D

drivesafe
14th April 2015, 10:10 PM
OK folks, I'll see how much interest there is in developing a system here on the forum, and if we can get some people with the know-how involved then why not.

I already have a fair range of deferent types of basic monitors developed, like volts, amps, temp and similar, but if anyone has additional requirements for other types of monitors, post them up.

I can also transmit the basic data but we would need to transmit far more data to make the project more flexible.

Tombie
14th April 2015, 11:22 PM
I'm in!

Ranga
15th April 2015, 08:57 AM
I'm pretty happy with my Madman EMS 2 Unit (MadMan - MadMan EMS2 Unit (http://www.madman.co.za/index.php/hikashop-menu-for-module-186/product/ems2-engine-monitor)), but often wondered how much work is involved in being able to record all the values for a given period of time, and review those.

Ultimately, what I think would be good - especially for those vehicles without a CPU - would be to ability to monitor anything valuable, such as temps, revs, volts, amps, running hours. Whilst it would be nice to be able to see these in a chart real-time (perhaps on a smart phone or tablet), even simply having the ability to export the data to allow an analyst like me to crunch the data to glean some sort of intelligence would be cool.

Include in that a GPS that monitors locations and speeds, and plenty of people who loan their cars would surely be interested! Include a sim card and the ability to email alerts, and your talking about the same functionality used in industry, but perhaps a lower price-point accessible to the home user. This could be gained from cheap Android phones fixed to the vehicle with password functionality. Similar functionality already exists to a degree with the Torque app, but alas it's only good for vehicles with a CPU.

AndyG
15th April 2015, 02:29 PM
READER OBD2 BLUETOOTH 4.0 ENGINE CODE | Tracking/Fleet Monitoring | Car Alarms, Protection & Accessories | Automotive & Mobile Security | PRODUCTS | PP2145 | Jaycar Electronics (http://www.jaycar.com.au/Automotive-%26-Mobile-Security/Car-Alarms,-Protection-%26-Accessories/Tracking-Fleet-Monitoring/READER-OBD2-BLUETOOTH-4-0-ENGINE-CODE/p/PP2145)

Here is part of the solution, wish i saw it a year ago.
Am i correct in thinking Bluetooth devices only connect 1=1 not 1 = many

p38arover
15th April 2015, 03:49 PM
Even though I've bought one of the Mooshi units, I'm interested.

Two of the applications I have for the monitor is to record just how often and for how long:
(1) the EAS compressor runs
(2) the ABS pump runs

rar110
15th April 2015, 07:50 PM
I'd be interested in battery voltage to tell me if the alternator is failing.

Ferret
15th April 2015, 09:01 PM
Are people trying to reinvent the wheel? Live value monitoring via GAP Diagnostics IID tool (http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/videophoto.html)



http://www.gap-diagnostic.com/fileadmin/gap/images/IPad_IIDControl_Screenshots/LV_Graph_3P_1.PNG

Basil135
16th April 2015, 09:35 AM
The original idea was to have a way to monitor battery stats in a trailer, or caravan.

Whilst it would be great to be able to monitor other things as well, I think we need to be careful about moving too far away from the original plan.

Tombie
16th April 2015, 09:41 AM
The IID tool reports main battery

The idea of the units being described are Aux battery type monitoring...

p38arover
21st April 2015, 09:37 AM
The Mooshimeters have arrived. Now to play.

I wonder how I select mine from the three that I have so that I get the faulty one? :(

Homestar
21st April 2015, 11:09 AM
The Mooshimeters have arrived. Now to play.

I wonder how I select mine from the three that I have so that I get the faulty one? :(
Don't play with the one you're going to send me! :D

p38arover
21st April 2015, 11:45 AM
I haven't touched them. I am going to get Elisabeth to pull two out and put them in satchels ready to post.

LandyAndy
23rd April 2015, 09:05 PM
Didnt you post that the day you got married your badluck started,she just may be a witch!!!!!
Dont let her touch your stuff guys!!!!!!













I have met the good lady,she is no witch!!!!,hell of a nice lady.You are a lucky bloke Ron,many dont do as good as you have.
Andrew

AndyG
24th April 2015, 10:11 AM
http://www.projecta.com.au/LatestNews1/ProjectaIncreasesEfficiencyandEase-of-UsewithSecondGenerati.aspx

Anyone got one of these
Not remote, but small, functional, and easy to install

Ranga
24th April 2015, 02:19 PM
http://www.projecta.com.au/LatestNews1/ProjectaIncreasesEfficiencyandEase-of-UsewithSecondGenerati.aspx

Anyone got one of these
Not remote, but small, functional, and easy to install

Saw them in Repco the other day. What I couldn't ascertain is the alarm voltage, and if it's configurable. I now read that it is configurable, so that would be handy.

AndyG
26th April 2015, 04:01 AM
Yes, the alarm voltage is what interested me, both how is the second battery holding up and is there an unexpected drain on the main.
Do you recall the Repco price,? I have gone off Ebay and Couriers, i think my two Rotties may be dissuading Couriers to leave parcels inside the gate,

Homestar
26th April 2015, 01:50 PM
Well, it's here! Turned up Friday, but I've been away all weekend. Just downloaded the app and had a play. Got to say I'm pretty happy with it. Will run some logging and tests on it when I get a chance. Comes well presented in a nice zippered case with leads and clips. Meter itself is clear plastic so you can see all the gubbins inside.

Again. Thanks to Ron for organising these and sending them on promptly when they arrived. :)

drivesafe
13th May 2015, 07:25 PM
OK so have any of you had a chance to use your new meters yet ?

p38arover
13th May 2015, 07:45 PM
OK so have any of you had a chance to use your new meters yet ?

I haven't even opened the zipped up pouch in which it came.

Homestar
13th May 2015, 08:01 PM
Yes, it works very well. :). Not sure where the data logging files go yet - probably should read the instructions.

Used it yesterday in anger in an application where a standard meter wouldn't work. The mighty Vectra conked out on SWMBO the other day. Once towed home, I found the battery to be dead flat. Assuming the alternator was knackered, I charged the battery up, fired up the engine and checked the voltage - 13.8. Hmmmm.

Left the Mushi connected under the bonnet and went for a drive while the phone sat in the phone holder on the volts setting. First speed bump I hit, the voltage dropped to 12.5. The second bump I hit had the voltage back to 13.8

Came home and checked the (pain in the arse to get to) terminals on the alternator and found the plug was loose. Only realised after I fixed it that the charge lamp on the dash was also knackered, so it gave us no indication there was an issue.

Happy camper.

Rick122
14th May 2015, 07:43 AM
For data logging you first need to fit a micro SD card, then just enable logging.