Limestone vs Classic Cream

[garrywlh]

I remember a discussion here some time ago about how closely a contemporary, accessible paint might match the correct Limestone colour (Rover no. RTC4044A; Dulux (DuCo) D38505).
Someone here, I think it might have been Mr. Grey Ghost, suggested that White Knight Rust Guard Classic Cream epoxy enamel (a Taubmans colour) in rattle cans might be a readily accessible substitute.
When Johnno visited here recently in his fantastic SWB, I took a picture to compare the colours just in case it was of interest to anyone.
On John's Landy is the authentic Limestone, and on my wheel, the Classic Cream. As you can see, if anything the Limestone is the more buttery of the two.
Leave it to you to decide which is the prettier, but in reality it seems to me that the Cream would be a respectable substitute if you prefer to go with the spray can.
cheers,
Garry
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=92751&stc=1&d=1428993605

[Lotz-A-Landies]

One problem I have found with the rust guard and white knight epoxy products is they oxidise and lose their shine much quicker than the original paints you apply with a gun.

One thing that you may be happy to learn is that the classic cream is probably a closer colour match to the earlier S2/S2a. The late S2a had more of a yellow hue.

[garrywlh]

So, Diana, there are 2 Limestone paint codes - an early one and a late one?

[SII Josh]

Will be following this closely as I am getting ready to paint the roof of my 1960 series 2, any more info on this colour will be awesome

[Johnno1969]

One problem I have found with the rust guard and white knight epoxy products is they oxidise and lose their shine much quicker than the original paints you apply with a gun.

One thing that you may be happy to learn is that the classic cream is probably a closer colour match to the earlier S2/S2a. The late S2a had more of a yellow hue.

I was actually surprised at how buttery and yellow the colour was when I used it.

Either way, Garry, Lettie will look lovely.

John

[garrywlh]

Although, I have since decided that I am going with body colour, being a Series II. I know it is the wrong body colour, but I decided the wheels may as well be the same wrong colour! :)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=92768&d=1429044488

[Lotz-A-Landies]

So, Diana, there are 2 Limestone paint codes - an early one and a late one?Yes there are two "limestone colours" one from about 1967 which is slightly off white with a yellow tint base and a later one in the SIII Stage 3 era which is much more cream (see below).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/813.jpg

But before either or those colours there was an off white colour with almost a blue tint base used on series 1 and series 2/2a roofs and sometimes also their wheels. This is the one I feel is more like the classic cream at the head of this thread.

[SII Josh]

I remember a guy at one of the British car shows held locally saying there was an arttic White which was white with a blue tint, as I am not versed in the paint codes I just agreed as his roof defently had a blueish tint to the White.

I have so far used my local paint supplier to colour match the parts, he did alright for the green, so am taking him my roof to be coloured matched

[Slunnie]

I understand my IIa 6cyl ute is Limestone.

Here is a pic so you can see the panels are all the same colour, because they don't look it in the next pic.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/808.jpg

These wheels were blasted and powdercoated in a colour which I think was called Magnolia (thanks Bacicat!). If it wasn't that it was some flower. Never the less, the powdercoat colour looked to me like it was a match when comparing with the the sample.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/809.jpg

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Slunny

My recollection of the brochures at the time (wish I kept them) is that the body colour was called "sandstone" and the roof colour (second image) "limestone".

That scheme in Oz was unique to the 6 cyl 109 from about 1969. The 88's were "DBG" and "limestone"

Diana

[Slunnie]

Hi Slunny

My recollection of the brochures at the time (wish I kept them) is that the body colour was called "sandstone" and the roof colour "limestone".

That scheme in Oz was unique to the 6 cyl 109 from about 1969. The 88's were "DBG" and "limestone"

Diana
Ahhh, my apologies! So the ute is Sandstone, not Limestone. Thanks for this Diana!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Simon

Yes it gets confusing, because by the end of SIII a British Land Rover colour Limestone was similar to the Aussie SIIA colour sandstone.

Remember the paint on the aussie Land Rovers were sourced from Dulux and were not the same selection as the paints on Land Rovers made in the UK. It was another part of the way that Rover Co complied with the Australian content rules.

This is where lots of Aussie researchers come undone when they search for sources in the UK.

[S3ute]

That scheme in Oz was unique to the 6 cyl 109 from about 1969.

Diana

Yes, we had a 1972 S2a 6 cylinder on the farm that was that colour whereas the neighbour's 4 cylinder was the traditional LWB grey. I am probably mistaken but I had always thought the body, roof top and wheel rims were the same colour on our truck.

The same colour scheme seems to have been used in Africa around that same time - especially on some station wagons and non-military forward controls. Like this one in Maun (Botswana):

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/805.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/Tilly011/media/P2031791_zps8fdc26a0.jpg.html)

And another from Bulawayo in Matabeleland:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/806.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/Tilly011/media/Zimbabwe_Oct_2012_20121021_158.jpg.html)

Cheers,

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Too right, if you look at the two images posted by Slunny you see that one has the same body and roof colour while the second has the lighter roof.

The hardtop versions all had the light roof and sides.

I really liked that colour scheme, in fact the 6cyl Suffix H was my all time favourate, IMHO the best of the series bar none.

[S3ute]

Yes, I recall that now - ours (photo below) was a ute cab tray top like the first photo of the earlier post.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/804.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/Tilly011/media/Karingal_LR_Aug_2008_005_zpslon2hmot.jpg.html)

I believe they were the one overall colour whereas the full length tops were lighter than the body panels.

Cheers,

[Homestar]

These wheels were blasted and powdercoated in a colour which I think was called Camelia. If it wasn't that it was some flower. Never the less, the powdercoat colour looked to me like it was a match when comparing with the the sample.

Would it have been Magnolia? That is a lighter cream than Primrose - also a Powdercoat colour.

I'm about to get mine done, so looking at options at the moment. Want something just a shade lighter and creamier than limestone.

[Slunnie]

Too right, if you look at the two images posted by Slunny you see that one has the same body and roof colour while the second has the lighter roof.

The hardtop versions all had the light roof and sides.

I really liked that colour scheme, in fact the 6cyl Suffix H was my all time favourate, IMHO the best of the series bar none.
They're the same ute in the pics. I think its just the difference in light when the photo was taken. The door colour looks different too. I've just had a look in the garage, and it looks like the roof colour and the body colour are the same on mine.

[Slunnie]

Would it have been Magnolia? That is a lighter cream than Primrose - also a Powdercoat colour.

I'm about to get mine done, so looking at options at the moment. Want something just a shade lighter and creamier than limestone.
Magnolia! I'd be a terrible horticulturalist! Yes, I think it is Magnolia. Well, picked and thanks for noting it! I'll edit my previous post so nobody ends up with the wrong colour. Thank you!

[S3ute]

Would it have been Magnolia? That is a lighter cream than Primrose - also a Powdercoat colour.

I'm about to get mine done, so looking at options at the moment. Want something just a shade lighter and creamier than limestone.

Hello again.

This is timely because I have just removed the 5 worn out tyres from my truck as a prelude to getting the rims cleaned up and recoloured next week.

They are presently a very rich cream colour which actually looks quite good - but the actual quality of the original painting was poor - but will probably look better in a less buttery colour.

Cheers

[S3ute]

Hello again from Brisbane.

Took my 5 rims into a well-recommended operation in Archerfield and looked over the various colours on offer.

It seems that Magnolia is about the right colour but supposedly only comes in a matt finish from Dulux. I picked another colour that is hard to differentiate from Magnolia but will be done in gloss. Name escapes me but will return when I pay for the job.

Pick them up next week.

Plan to do the ute roof and safari panel in Limestone. It probably was Limestone originally but has faded to a chalky white.

Cheers,

[clubagreenie]

Be aware that modern "Limestones" can be quite green. There's a mitsubishi magna color of the same name that's nothing like it when finished and dried. but in the pot it looks the goods.

[Homestar]

Hello again from Brisbane.

Took my 5 rims into a well-recommended operation in Archerfield and looked over the various colours on offer.

It seems that Magnolia is about the right colour but supposedly only comes in a matt finish from Dulux. I picked another colour that is hard to differentiate from Magnolia but will be done in gloss. Name escapes me but will return when I pay for the job.

Pick them up next week.

Plan to do the ute roof and safari panel in Limestone. It probably was Limestone originally but has faded to a chalky white.

Cheers,

It certainly is available in gloss, but maybe they didn't have any and didn't want to buy a whole box for one job. Good to hear they had a similar colour available though. :)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=93270&d=1430207613

[S3ute]

Hello again.

The operator I took the wheels to is a pretty straight shooter by reputation so I trusted his advice.

But, I can also see that the chart you posted has Magnolia as a gloss colour. However, the Dulux wall chart that I was shown had it listed as matt.....

Anyway, the colour we agreed on also looks the goods. So, here's hoping.

Cheers,

[SII Josh]

here are the two colours i found on my series 2, the outside we know is just white paint from bunnings or the like.

the inside we are more confident in saying is original or very close to original colour.

i am taking this panel into my local paint shop to get them to colour match it if they can't find the colour code.

will go through this thread with them also to show them what you guys have found.

[SII Josh]

going off the DURALLOY chart i would say the bottom pic in my photo would be close to the magnolia