This will be interesting...

[DoubleChevron]

I wonder what the old Rangy will tow this like .... I'm figuring "slowly ... with horrendous fuel consumption" :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/536.jpg

tare is only 1600 ... so likely 2'ish tons loaded with a tank of water. I'm hoping for 80->90km/h cruising speeds... we'll see I guess.

seeya,
Shane L.

[Rextheute]

Be like towing a block of flats ...........:p

But Ballarat to Barwon /heads is downhill !


From experience ,it will be the wind resistance not the dead weight that will hurt the economy . But the 3.5 is a torquey little lump so your 80ish km an hour is achievable .

I'll open the betting @ 22l / 100 .


ps check the bearings and wheel nuts - and I'd run it over a weigh bridge as early vans were more a guess on weights .

[DoubleChevron]

Be like towing a block of flats ...........:p

But Ballarat to Barwon /heads is downhill !


From experience ,it will be the wind resistance not the dead weight that will hurt the economy . But the 3.5 is a torquey little lump so your 80ish km an hour is achievable .

I'll open the betting @ 22l / 100 .


ps check the bearings and wheel nuts - and I'd run it over a weigh bridge as early vans were more a guess on weights .

Apparently tar is 1600kg ... the oldies are light. The storage and size means SWMBO could easily load 1ton into it without it getting crowded. The blue rangy is a 3.9. Sadly it's got a slugomatic... and doesn't have a lockup on 3rd gear. I have no intention of dragging it at speeds > 90km/h. We'll never travel main roads unless there duel carriageway. I for one don't want to **** off truckers.

It's weird though, once you towing a caravan, the size and weight of it doesn't make progress feel much different. We'll see I guess.

You want insanity. the sucker still wears it's original rock hard heavily perished cross ply tires... The place that traded it is happy to tow it to Ballarat (from hamilton) on those tires for me :o :o :o "She'll be right mate, we'll just sit on 60-80km/h"... :o :o :o

I'm expecting it to arrive on the back of a truck with 4 shreded tires, or with 4 new tires fitted :cool: It's got really weird independent coil spring suspension. So I'll pull it all down and check any bushing for deterioration and the shockers. I don't want something this size getting "excitable" behind me.

seeya,
Shane L.
PS: This is the reason I grabbed it.... What a layout!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/02/535.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/02/536.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/02/537.jpg

The kids are over the moon ... the two eldest will get top bunks :D

[benji]

She'll do 100kph on the flat no problem.

Though it'll be a slow affair going home, especially up past mt bunningyong!

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[DoubleChevron]

She'll do 100kph on the flat no problem.

Though it'll be a slow affair going home, especially up past mt bunningyong!

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One of the worst climbs I know of it out of Bunningyong. Your forced to start at standstll at the bottom of a long steep hill.... that speed changes from 60 -> 80 -> 100km/h as you climb. Your basically going to be doing 50km/h the entire way as you have no chance to gain momentum before climbing it.

We're hoping to travel around the east coast for a few months in it... in a couple of years. I imagine the rangy will do it easily enough if we pick our times ... travel back roads and keep speeds around 80km/h. The grey nomads that by 3.5 ton vans, v8 turbo deisel 4wds and hit the roads with cruiise control set to 100km/h scare the hell out of me. They must never have towed before and seem to have no idea how quickly bad things can happen at those speeds.

seeya,
Shane L.

[Homestar]

Don't be too worried about holding people up by doing 80. I've just done 2,500KM in the 101 towing our van. On main roads/freeways I sat on 90 even though this hurt my fuel economy, and would use the CB to call trucks around. As soon as they pull out, I backed off or even braked slightly and they get by quickly and thank you for it. On B roads, I sat on 80 or even less if the roads were a bit ****. Again, I would call trucks around, or just get off the road when safe to do so - usually towards the top of a climb when there was room as it's easy to slow down and let people past. Cars I wouldn't worry too much about - they generally manage to get past, but if a queue formed, again, I'd just pull over. 99% of other van owners were really good and understanding and if you give them room when you can, you won't have any issues. Interestingly, with the van on, I got about 50% of all people towing a van wave at me. Some dicks out there, but mostly ok. I didn't get anyone road rage me mind you driving a big arse army truck around has that effect on people...:D

I was getting 25LPH at 90KPH and 23LPH at 80. The Rangie is (slightly) more streamlined than a 101, so I would expect between 20 and 22LPH but I found the biggest factor on towing speed and economy was the wind conditions. A strong cross wind was a killer in both departments.

Hope they get it to you on those tyres ok. I wouldn't tow it around the block on original runner like that, but who knows.

Looks like a interesting layout - must have been specifically made for a big family. Good seating too.

[Chucaro]

I guess that the maximum recommended load will be about and not more of 400kg so the 3.9 engine should not have any problem with it.
How much weight is on the ball?

[DoubleChevron]

I guess that the maximum recommended load will be about and not more of 400kg so the 3.9 engine should not have any problem with it.
How much weight is on the ball?

I have no idea what the ball weight is, I imagine I can heavily influence it on a 'van this size if I'm not careful loading it. It should arrive in the next two weeks at some point, so I'll have more idea what needs doing. The ball weight I imagine will be around 150kg.

The point on using the CB is a good idea. The blue rangy does have a CB. I'll just need to fit an aerial to it.

seeya,
Shane L.

[Tombie]

Don't be too worried about holding people up by doing 80. I've just done 2,500KM in the 101 towing our van. On main roads/freeways I sat on 90 even though this hurt my fuel economy, and would use the CB to call trucks around. As soon as they pull out, I backed off or even braked slightly and they get by quickly and thank you for it. On B roads, I sat on 80 or even less if the roads were a bit ****. Again, I would call trucks around, or just get off the road when safe to do so - usually towards the top of a climb when there was room as it's easy to slow down and let people past. Cars I wouldn't worry too much about - they generally manage to get past, but if a queue formed, again, I'd just pull over. 99% of other van owners were really good and understanding and if you give them room when you can, you won't have any issues. Interestingly, with the van on, I got about 50% of all people towing a van wave at me. Some dicks out there, but mostly ok. I didn't get anyone road rage me mind you driving a big arse army truck around has that effect on people...:D

A good motorist you are Gav :cool:

I could not and would not lose my cool if all people driving/towing were that courteous!

[Rok_Dr]

I'll reckon around 25l/100k.

That was what I was getting with my old soft dash pulling my 19.5' Windsor poptop which grosses at 1.8t.

Cheers

Steve

[DoubleChevron]

I'll reckon around 25l/100k.

That was what I was getting with my old soft dash pulling my 19.5' Windsor poptop which grosses at 1.8t.

Cheers

Steve

with a slugomatic ... I'd betting 30 -> 35L/100 of LPG :)

seeya,
Shane L.

[Chucaro]

with a slugomatic ... I'd betting 30 -> 35L/100 of LPG :)

seeya,
Shane L.

Time to put an Isuzu on it :cool:

[DoubleChevron]

Time to put an Isuzu on it :cool:

Then were looking at 15->20L/100 .... and more than twice the price for the fuel itself ..................... with less towing power and no music being played out the back :wasntme:

gas is quite economical cost wise so long as you can live with appalling range and don't head out of populated areas that sell gas!

[Grumbles]

I thought this may be of some comparative interest. I just had a look through my log book. I towed a dual axle trailer with a lockable walk-in metal canopy mounted on it - it measured some 4 metres long and 2 metres high. The trailer was jammed full with house hold furniture and my Classic LSE RR was filled to the brim with possessions as well. Daughter was moving house. Anyway - we went from Tumut NSW to 100 kms south of Albury without an issue. Fuel consumption was 24 litres per 100 kms. Rangie had 201000 kms on the clock at the time. 3.9 V8.

On the the trip up empty it consumed petrol at the rate of 19 L per 100 kms.

[loanrangie]

Interior looks in good nic Shane, kids would love the bunks.

[mark2]

A good motorist you are Gav :cool:

I could not and would not lose my cool if all people driving/towing were that courteous!

Yes, the number of caravanners and others who normally sit under the limit but actually increase speed when they get to an overtaking lane or other opportunity is unbelievable and one of my biggest peeves.:censored:

I can live with people who sit under the limit if they have the decency to make an effort to let others who aren't on holiday get around at every reasonable opportunity.

[DoubleChevron]

Yes, the number of caravanners and others who normally sit under the limit but actually increase speed when they get to an overtaking lane or other opportunity is unbelievable and one of my biggest peeves.:censored:

I can live with people who sit under the limit if they have the decency to make an effort to let others who aren't on holiday get around at every reasonable opportunity.

That's not just caravaners .... and nothing ****es me off more. Recently I drove down to gelong behind a private ambulance (possibly patient transport). damn thing sat on 45 -> 50mph (I was driving my old '63 Citroen ID19 .... which isn't exactly known for it's huge overtaking power)........ FINALY I get to one of the only overtaking lanes on that road, foot flat to the floor, into the inside lane.... .The cow driving it kept me level with her back axle the entire length of the overtaking lane.... As it was a slight gradient I'm white knuckled at the end doing 75'ish mph incidcated still dead level with the bloody things back axle.... So I layed ont he horns and high beam and sat there.... at the very last second as the lane ran out ... the cow panic'd and hit the anchors and let me back in. 500meters further down the road she was gone from my mirrors. she'd dropped back from 75mph back to 45mph ..... AAAARRRRRhhhhhhhhh Why ? Was she concerned an old car would slow her down .... when she's doing 45mph in a 62mph speed zone :confused:

seeya,
shane L

[Mick_Marsh]

That's not just caravaners .... and nothing ****es me off more. Recently I drove down to gelong behind a private ambulance (possibly patient transport). damn thing sat on 45 -> 50mph (I was driving my old '63 Citroen ID19 .... which isn't exactly known for it's huge overtaking power)........ FINALY I get to one of the only overtaking lanes on that road, foot flat to the floor, into the inside lane.... .The cow driving it kept me level with her back axle the entire length of the overtaking lane.... As it was a slight gradient I'm white knuckled at the end doing 75'ish mph incidcated still dead level with the bloody things back axle.... So I layed ont he horns and high beam and sat there.... at the very last second as the lane ran out ... the cow panic'd and hit the anchors and let me back in. 500meters further down the road she was gone from my mirrors. she'd dropped back from 75mph back to 45mph ..... AAAARRRRRhhhhhhhhh Why ? Was she concerned an old car would slow her down .... when she's doing 45mph in a 62mph speed zone :confused:

seeya,
shane L
I notice a lot of people do that. I think it is a subconscious thing. A throwback to our grazing on the plains in prehistoric times, you know, when survival meant keeping up with the pack and making sure at least one person was slower than you.
Or is that a sheep thing.
Anyway, I don't think they do it on purpose. Than many drivers can't be ******.

[worane]

Here here Mick. I am with you all the way.

[Hoges]

I suspect a lot of it (not referring to the bus in Shane's post) has to do with imprecise cruise control settings. I've noticed on the P38 for example that it has limited power on hills because of the performance "hole" in top gear between 1800 and 2200 rpm. Once it gets above 2600 rpm it accelerates quite well. In cruise control on a steady incline at 95 km/hr it will lose at least 5km/hr then start to build up. So someone coming up to pass me in the rh lane, also on cruise at say 100km/hr takes longer to pass because my vehicle is building up to the original speed:eek: :confused: To let them pass I often disengage the CC precisely because I detest people who speed up as I go to pass:censored: Lots of small cars with cheap cruise control units probably exhibit similar behaviour to the P38 ...

[Pedro_The_Swift]

3-3.5 kilometres per litre of gas.:angel:
I didnt put a HC 4.6 in mine cos the 4L towed brilliantly---;):p:p

you WILL need to ensure your auto is serviced and the cooler is clean.

a ballweight anywhere near 400kgs is lunacy:mad:

anywhere you can tow that,, there will be LPG,,

LT tyres on the van, pumped up over 50.

Pics of the suspension???:D

[DoubleChevron]

3-3.5 kilometres per litre of gas.:angel:
I didnt put a HC 4.6 in mine cos the 4L towed brilliantly---;):p:p

you WILL need to ensure your auto is serviced and the cooler is clean.

a ballweight anywhere near 400kgs is lunacy:mad:

anywhere you can tow that,, there will be LPG,,

LT tyres on the van, pumped up over 50.

Pics of the suspension???:D

I've got a thread running on the 'van over here. Central kitchen, beds at the ends. She's smartly layed out for weight distribution. I'm expecting the ball weight not to be a lot. I think the suspension is vauxall suspension. Fingers crossed the shockers haven't died fro m lack of use as there quite expensive.

http://ditzygypsy.proboards.com/thread/3241/time-another-project?page=1

I'd lover to convert the rangie to a 4.6/304/ls1/small block chev ... but especially put a proper gearbox in it R380 and L230 probably. Oneday a disco will pop up cheaply locallly and I'll grab it for it's gearbox and transfer case.

seeya,
Shane L.

[rick130]

I notice a lot of people do that. I think it is a subconscious thing. A throwback to our grazing on the plains in prehistoric times, you know, when survival meant keeping up with the pack and making sure at least one person was slower than you.
Or is that a sheep thing.
Anyway, I don't think they do it on purpose. Than many drivers can't be ******.


Happens everywhere I go, people are cruising at 90km/h on single lane highway, hit dual carriageway/overtaking lane and they immediately speed up to 110km/h and hardly anyone can get past, the road goes back to single lane and their speed drops back to 85-90.....

It's vexing.