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mj2620
24th April 2015, 05:54 AM
So I rang the Rover mechanic here in Canberra (Mitchell) and they said they don't recommend remapping td5 if it has done over 120,000kms??
Is this what others think??
And he wanted $1,340 to do it?
I was hoping to get my td5 manual disco remapped.. But it has 250,000kms. It has a new turbo and head.
What do ppl think?

87County
24th April 2015, 06:08 AM
I'd be very interested to know what his reasoning is.

Many D2s would have now exceeded that mileage (kilometerage?). One of my sons has a D2 Td5 that was upgraded recently with a much higher mileage and at less cost. I'd ask another LR specialist- maybe one of the Sydney outfits ?

roverv8
24th April 2015, 06:40 AM
I did mine at 280, TRS chip,
since had a new head but that was from corrosion inside
P.S
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/218919-nnn-ecu-sale-aulro-promo.html

SPROVER
24th April 2015, 07:58 AM
I think you need to look for another mechanic. I had mine remapped at about 310 000 km. Bigger intercooler and stage 2 remap by Jose. Goes very well. And the price your mechanic is asking is ridiculous.

discorevy
24th April 2015, 08:54 AM
X2 what Sprover said about another mechanic, as long as your engine is healthy , which ,if it has been maintained, it will be given it has only done 250 000 , nnn or msb ecu?

mj2620
24th April 2015, 01:09 PM
What do u mean by nnn or msb ecu??
Sorry new to the land rovers

Disco Muppet
24th April 2015, 01:53 PM
MSB ECU requires physically re-soldering part of the board, hence why its called a 'chip'.
NNN ECU can be remotely mapped via a nanocom.
MSB is in the 99-mid 02 Td5 which is the 10p motor, NNN is in the later model Td5, the 15p motor. What year is your discovery?
Your mechanic is feeding you a steaming load of **** and wants you to bend over for the privilege. Find a new one, read up on mapping a td5 and away you go.
255k km here, all original and about to go down the silly power path ;)

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bsperka
24th April 2015, 04:07 PM
What a load of bollocks. Price is too high and advice is wrong. Mild remap shouldn't have any detrimental impact on engine at all.

onebob
24th April 2015, 04:55 PM
What a load of bollocks. Price is too high and advice is wrong. Mild remap shouldn't have any detrimental impact on engine at all.

ditto

I had mine chipped at 275k after the HG was done at 272K and she pulls like a bull in springtime :D

...and I've done the silly power thing too ;) and she boosts to 22psi under load and no detrimental effects but then again i do drive conservatively :angel: or... maybe not always, like when i encounter a late model Land Cruiser either climbing through the Toolangi Forest or up and through the Merton Gap and i feel i gotta protect the honour of the marque :twisted:

Milton477
24th April 2015, 07:03 PM
Just done mine at 317k. Stage 2 Bruce Davis upgrade with big intercooler, boost thing to confuse ECU & center muffler changed to a free flow. Why I waited so long to do it I don't know. Fuel economy has improved slightly & the vehicle is so much more lively. I added EGT & Boost gauges to keep any eye on things.

DiscoDB
24th April 2015, 07:35 PM
You are never too old to go down the silly power path....woops, I mean the Td5 is never too high in km's to benefit from a remap. (-:

The motor needs 100,000 km to run in properly and has an expected life of well over 500,000 kms if serviced when due. In stock form it is well under powered, which is what makes it so reliable.

I added a tuning box (crude form of injecting more fuel) at around 250,000 kms long before a remap became much more affordable and easier to achieve thanks to people like Jose at Td5Inside. The tuning box improved the stock 0-100 time of over 17-18 secs to around 13-14 secs. At around 400,000 kms I upgraded the intercooler and cranked up the tuning box to its max settings. Now does 0-100 in around 11-12 secs. Now at 480,000 kms and yes the manual gearbox needs replacing, the front drive shaft is starting to fail, and it has other unrelated problems, but nothing you would not expect from a 13 year old car approaching the end of it's half life!

And this is all with the original head and turbo as well. There is nothing that has needed replacing on my car that is any different to those running stock motors.

Holding off getting a remap from Td5Inside until I sort the driveline issues out as the pursuit for silly power continues.

Don't waste your time with a rechip if you have or can get a NNN ECU as a remap will allow you to optimise the set up to suit what you want.

And anyone who tells you it will only result in clouds of black smoke - this is rubbish as well, my modified Td5 puts out less smoke under full power than a stock tuned TdV6, so imagine what sort of remap LR did to make the TdV6 perform as it does and my Td5 D2 is quicker than my D3....for now that is..... (-;

"Remapping Turbo Diesels is a Mid-Life Crisis Placebo for Conservative Gentlemen".

onebob
24th April 2015, 08:10 PM
You are never too old to go down the silly power path....woops, .

:D:D I love the power - I'm 62 next birthday ;)

onebob

old hoons don't die

MarknDeb
24th April 2015, 08:18 PM
So I rang the Rover mechanic here in Canberra (Mitchell) and they said they don't recommend remapping td5 if it has done over 120,000kms??
Is this what others think??
And he wanted $1,340 to do it?
I was hoping to get my td5 manual disco remapped.. But it has 250,000kms. It has a new turbo and head.
What do ppl think?



I have made 3 maps for mine and the first went in at 145,000 we now have 190,000 the last map is what we are happy with and have done 20,000 with it and not 1 issue.

joel0407
24th April 2015, 09:36 PM
I can't speak highly enough of TD5inside. I have 3 or 4 different maps as Jose sent me one to start with then modified them as I asked for certain changes. These differnt maps weren't requested straight away either. I had the first map and drove around with it for several week but then I found my fuel usage was a bit high. I just let Jose know and he sent me a new map to try.

The only problem you might have is you will need to by a Nanocom or equivilent or borrow one to upload your tunes.

I also think Jose is pretty cheap by comparison.

Happy Days.

DiscoDB
24th April 2015, 09:42 PM
I also think Jose is pretty cheap by comparison.

No, no, no, don't say that, Jose will be increasing his price if we think he is cheap.....heh heh.....

joel0407
24th April 2015, 09:50 PM
No, no, no, don't say that, Jose will be increasing his price if we think he is cheap.....heh heh.....

From my experience with dealing with Jose, I doubt it. I have offered to pay him for things that I beleived were above and beyond what I have paid for but he wouldn't accept my money. I thought it normal for him to make a change or 2 to my maps but I didn't get my boost guage for several months after I got my first tune. When I increased my boost and wanted a tune to suit, he provided it no charge.

Happy Days.

discorevy
24th April 2015, 10:18 PM
While we are on the subject of praise to Jose , I have installed a few chips/remaps from different companies over the years , decided to try one of Jose's , let's say I won't bother with others from now on . That's not to say that others are not worth it, far from it and I also haven't used everyone's , but Jose's map was spot on first time , not sure if this is common knowledge but as far as I know he can send you a chip for msb type ecu,s but you will need someone who knows how to solder properly ( electronics repairer)
Cheers

mj2620
25th April 2015, 05:46 AM
Thanks heaps people for all the responses I'll get onto it in the next few weeks. My disco is a 1999 so I think I'll get the chip and get my mate who is an auto elec to solder it into the ecu.

Pippin
25th April 2015, 08:53 AM
A word of caution after having damaged the circuit board on my ECU removing the chip, luckily I had a spare. I had a fair amount of past experience with electronics and was confident, but still managed to fxxx it up. I would recommend getting a good electronics repairer to do the job, it is fine delicate work.

Roberto
25th April 2015, 01:43 PM
Damn, I wish I hadn't clicked on this thread.

I have 217ks on my 03 TD5. Is stock with EGR blank, and LPG injection between air cleaner and turbo.

I own a Nanocom but haven't explored its potential.

How do I contact this Jose character?

Bob

Disco Muppet
25th April 2015, 01:49 PM
Go to page one of thread, find posts thanked by 'td5inside'.
Click on td5inside.
Go to send a message to td5inside.
Enjoy :cool:

Then go remove the gas, it's a 4WD not a BBQ :p

joel0407
25th April 2015, 10:16 PM
Then go remove the gas, it's a 4WD not a BBQ :p

Please add this to the quotes thread.:D