Roof rack / roof bars please school me

[Ean Austral]

Gday All,


I have absolutely no idea whats needed or involved in fitting a roof rack or bars to my D3. The roof is as it drove off the factory floor, so what do I need to do to be able to fit a rack or bars.


Ideally all I want to do is fit my awning and maybe to carry a tyre carcuss on the roof.


So let me have it oh wise one's.


Cheers Ean

[LandyAndy]

Gidday Ean.
Its a matter of choosing a rack style and getting the fittings.Under the plastic roof strips are bolt down points.
I want a Frontrunner rack,they do one of the lowest profile available.Look up Frontrunner to see the range,OL are the dealers,unsure if anybody else imports them.
Andrew

[ADMIRAL]

Hi Ean,

In the roof channels ( x 2 ) there are roof nuts , riv nuts or whatever you want to call them. ( threaded inserts ) The roofrails are removed, or at least the plugs into the threads are, and you then have several options.
You can fit a range of rails, Rhino, Landrover, and others, of differing lengths, onto the channels or threaded mounts. Most require the removal of the trim strip, and the insertion of the rail. Once you have the rails of choice mounted into or onto the channels, you have the option of fitting simple crossbars/roofrails, or a roofrack/basket. The longer roofracks ( like the LR Expedition rack ) may use the front riv nut to attach a supporting leg. This is in the front area of the channel about level with the seat position. Have a look at a pic of an Expedition rack and you will get what I mean.

There are racks like the the 'Cheetah slimline- Frontrunner ' which mount direct into the channel riv nuts without the use of rails. If you do a search under slimline, there should be a few posts with pics. I remember posting some, some time ago. ( I have a slimline on my disco now )

Have a look at Disco's in caryards and carparks, and get an idea of how they mount up, and what appeals to you, utility and looks wise. Then have look on the forum. Pretty much every rack combination is on here somewhere with comments.

Note, that they will all add noise. The roofracks more than the roofrails. ( and the LR Expedition rack is one of the worst in my experience ) the D3/4's are so quiet, you will hear anything extra, and these are certainly extra, particularly into a headwind.

[Fred Nerk]

I heard (pun intended) a lot about wind noise and chose the smaller/shorter Frontrunner rack. When I picked up the car after installation, I drove less than a kilometre and took it back. The noise was horrendous.

Showed it to "the man" at OL who looked at it and then called the young installer lad out from the dungeon aka workshop.

"Where's the wind deflector?"

"There wasn't one supplied."

"Look again"

And so the deflector was fitted in less than 5 minutes. I drove off in satisfied silence. It was worth it to hear a comparison to know how effective the little deflector is. My roofrack is virtually silent when empty. There can be some load induced noise depending on what is carried.

If your rack has noise I suggest tweaking the position, fore and aft, of just the deflector or the whole rack.

[Fred Nerk]

Perhaps more closely "on topic".

Be aware that the roof load is "not much". I think it is 75 or 80kg. This is about vehicle stability and not the strength of the roof. When parked you can sleep up there etc. You just shouldn't drive around.

The load includes the weight of the rack. With a big or full length rack you will have used up to half your limit. It is a paradox. You can carry much more on a smaller (lighter) rack.

I have an awning that attaches to the rack easily and securely. There are several options compatible with the Frontrunner / Cheetah / Dolmio racks. These racks are all the same just branded differently.

[RobA]

I would suggest if all you want to do is attach an awning and strap a second spare occasionally then your simplest solution is to get 2 bars and mounts, depends on what awning you have, that will allow your awning to be mounted using L brackets, normally supplied with your awning and it is that easy.

For occasional mounting of the spare wheel if you can get your bars close enough there are wheel straps that will fix to the bars. If not then all you need is some stainless or galv concrete reinforcing mesh, four of the Rhino HD bar clamps to hold the mesh on, aforesaid wheel strap and you are OK

Rob

[Ean Austral]

Thanks for the replies.


Does anyone have a close up pic of the track setup that people speak of.


I am assuming that I need to purchase the tracks that fit where the stripping is at present, then I can select whatever bars or rack I want, as the mounting feet sit in the said tracks.


Correct ????


Cheers Ean

[GP1200]

Picture of my Rhino Racks and big basket, I take my racks and basket off when not in use, as I can hear them, with and without the basket, but funny enought when I have it loaded and in a rhino bag, it's a lot quieter, plus when they are on my fuel consumption goes up about a Litre per hundred km according to the dash read out, the whole set cost about $1700.00 supplied and fitted with the Rhino heavy duty bag ( which I love ) flag and flag bracket. I like the big basket and bag set up as it's easy to secure and weather proof. I will get another photo of the tracks today.

Jack

[RobA]

Just hop on to the Rhino Rack website all the pics you will need of all their options

Rob

[Disco W.A]

Ean,


this is the rack I fitted, its just bolts straight onto the mounts in the roof there is no need to buy the tracks


its the same one that Admiral has


they also make the brackets to mount you awning as well


Land Rover LR3 & LR4 Discovery Roof Rack ( Full Rack Foot Rail Mount ) Slimline II Front Runner (http://www.frontrunner.co.za/front-runner-slimline-ii-full-rack-foot-mount-land-rover-discovery-lr3-lr4.html)

[LRD414]

Ean,

I found these threads (links below) very useful when I was researching racks and platforms. I ended up going with Rhino tracks and a Rhino Pioneer Platform. Not the cheapest but very flexible with lots of options, eg can put on just roof bars instead of platform rack if that's all you need.

The Pioneer Platform is also very versatile for mounting things for various length trips/expeditions. I'll be mounting a full spare, recovery gear etc for the Cape and I'm still looking at awning options. But in the photo below, it's only lightly loaded for a quick visit to Bribie Island. There's a few good photos in these threads too.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/195993-platform-vs-tray-vs-basket.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/206903-roof-rails-roof-racks.html

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/235.jpg
Hope that helps.

Regards,
Scott

[LRD414]

I am assuming that I need to purchase the tracks that fit where the stripping is at present, then I can select whatever bars or rack I want, as the mounting feet sit in the said tracks.

Something to watch out for is it can get a bit tricky if your tracks are a different brand to your bars or rack. It can be done and you will see in the other threads that people have successfully mated LR tracks to Rhino and other brand bars and racks but it's another factor to consider, given that you have a blank canvas.

Cheers,
Scott

[Tombie]

Ean, depending on your budget.
Google Prospeed UK..

[eddy]

The Frontrunner looks the goods for my situation,same as Ean ie awning and tyre carcass maybe also a couple of swags.Liked the look of the Prospeed but unfortunately Mulgo no longer stock them.The Baja rack profile was ok,but the front section looked spindly.
DiscoWA did you buy your Frontrunner11 in WA?

[Tombie]

Prospeed ship direct :)

[Tombie]

About $2600 landed

[eddy]

The freight is the killer, almost the price of a swing away spare wheel carrier.
Have heard a local company Jaram in Welshpool, do an aluminium rack looks ok for the moneyTRACKLANDER - 2.1 m Aluminium Removable | Jaram Australia (http://www.jaram.com.au/product/tracklander-2-1m-alloy-removable/?gclid=CIP-2fGMk8UCFZGUvQodVgIAd)

[Tombie]

Still too heavy :)

Horses for courses of course; at the moment I'm running rails and 2 Whispbars for my use.

Moving forward will have the Prospeed and Awning mounts, wheel holder and composite floors


93171

[rufusking]

LRD414 / Scott is that a Ipanema Sand with anthracite grey rims?
Plan to go down the same road.





http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/lrd414-albums-general-picture5333-bribie.jpg

[Ean Austral]

Gday All,


So where do you purchase the roof track from, have done a bit of a search but cant see it sold as a separate item.


Cheers Ean

[Nomad9]

Hi Tombie,
My sight is the much chop at the best of times, could you have posted a smaller picture?

Hi Ean,
Just posted so I keep in the thread, me same as yourself I'm going to fit a LR tank and don't want to pay the $3500 + for the dual wheel carrier, looking for other options, all I want to do is store the spare wheel safely and nothing else. On top of the bonnet like a Deefer whilst looking pretty good could hamper forward vision somewhat, plus there could be some structural issues with the bonnet as well............

[LRD414]

So where do you purchase the roof track from, have done a bit of a search but cant see it sold as a separate item.

Ean, I got my Rhino tracks from a roof rack specialist in Brisbane as a separate item. They fitted mine but you can DIY too.

Tracks | Rhino-Rack (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/products/roof-rack-parts/tracks)

Or you could get LR equivalent ones on Ebay, both short and full length. One example at link below (no idea about quality etc just an example)

Land Rover Discovery 4 Extended Roof Rails Tracks Black 2 Lockable Cross Bars | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-Extended-Roof-Rails-Tracks-Black-2-lockable-Cross-Bars-/290897236113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&fits=Make%3ALand+Rover&hash=item43bad39091)

Or you could go direct to LR.

Scott

[LRD414]

LRD414 / Scott is that a Ipanema Sand with anthracite grey rims?
Plan to go down the same road.

Rufus, it's actually Nara Bronze on a very bright day.:cool: And yes anthracite Compomotives.

Cheers,
Scott

[LandyAndy]

Hi Tombie,
My sight is the much chop at the best of times, could you have posted a smaller picture?

Hi Ean,
Just posted so I keep in the thread, me same as yourself I'm going to fit a LR tank and don't want to pay the $3500 + for the dual wheel carrier, looking for other options, all I want to do is store the spare wheel safely and nothing else. On top of the bonnet like a Deefer whilst looking pretty good could hamper forward vision somewhat, plus there could be some structural issues with the bonnet as well............

Try right mouse click on image then open in another window,works for me.
Andrew

[l00kin4]

Ean, I got my Rhino tracks from a roof rack specialist in Brisbane as a separate item. They fitted mine but you can DIY too.

Tracks | Rhino-Rack (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/products/roof-rack-parts/tracks)

Or you could get LR equivalent ones on Ebay, both short and full length. One example at link below (no idea about quality etc just an example)

Land Rover Discovery 4 Extended Roof Rails Tracks Black 2 Lockable Cross Bars | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-Extended-Roof-Rails-Tracks-Black-2-lockable-Cross-Bars-/290897236113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&fits=Make%3ALand+Rover&hash=item43bad39091)

Or you could go direct to LR.

Scott

I have the full length knock off rails as per above (note I bought them without the cross bars and used wider Rhino ones.) I don't believe they fit quite as well as the original LR ones (VPLAR0074). No problems at all fitting them, I just think the fit in the gutter channel could be more snug. But for about 1/3 of the price I'm happy with them.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=93546&stc=1&d=1430951426

The wider Rhino (VA137B) rails don't protrude past the body of the car and allow me to fit more up there and mount my awning. Rhino feet are part # RLT500.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=93547&stc=1&d=1430951578

David

[Hogarthde]

Ean, the roofrack on our D 3, is a Rhino Rack

Rhino Tracks RTS502

Rhino Pioneer Alloy Tray 42101

Rhino heavy duty leg kit RLTP 50 mm low leg

Tray internal is approx [ too dark to read ] 1440 x 1500

dave

[DiegotheCat]

I have ordered my Rhino Pioneer rack and track option, I have gone the narrower option as Im not keen on the extra hang over if the originally designed discovery tray.

Ill post up when installed, cant wait!!

[gedaso]

I have the full length knock off rails as per above (note I bought them without the cross bars and used wider Rhino ones.) I don't believe they fit quite as well as the original LR ones (VPLAR0074). No problems at all fitting them, I just think the fit in the gutter channel could be more snug. But for about 1/3 of the price I'm happy with them.

David, I'm looking at these non-genuine rails as well. Are you still happy with them ? Any idea if they're the actual LR parts just sold without the LR logo, or a clone that is approximately the same dimensions ?

[Melbourne Park]

I have ordered my Rhino Pioneer rack and track option, I have gone the narrower option as Im not keen on the extra hang over if the originally designed discovery tray.

Ill post up when installed, cant wait!!

I got the Rhino Pioneer, but went the 1.3 metre width. I think 1.5 metre long ... the recommended size from Rhino's web page.

While wide, they actually stop inside the vehicle width ... they are wider than the roof, but the sides of the Disco have "tumblehome" they are curved. If you drop a vertical ruler down the side of the edge of the roof rack, the ruler will hit the vehicle's sides, about 120 or so mm downwards from the roof rack. Or just below the top of the windows. Excuse the poor English ...

So, the wider is better IMO. And for loading, you can stand on a tyre, and haul yourself up with the roof rack - a narrower one would make that more difficult.

You can access nicely from the back, via the tailgate (brilliant).

Mine stop where the roof goes down ... wind noise is very slight. The only wind noise I've noticed was in a strong cross wind. I carried a tyre at the back though. And my road tyres are a tiny bit noisier than stock ones, so they mask some wind noise ... but its not there except in a very strong cross wind, and then, only for a minute. Must have been some turbulence.

My bars fit on the Rhino bars ... and it feels low. So far, I've not had a car park issue. But I have to remember, that when the tyre is on board, I will have a car park issue!!!

[DiegotheCat]

I love the look of the smaller one and it is just as Practical as the weider 1 I find I just finished the trip and I had a 20 inch spare on the roof quickshade 20 litre bottle of water and there was plenty more room left I have seen the recommended size on Discoveries since and then they look disgusting compared to narrower version I'm on my phone at the moment but can post pics if you want to see it

[l00kin4]

gedaso,


I have to confess I ended up changing these over to the factory rails, mainly because of the fit in the gutter channel. I was getting pine needles and occasional leaves in the gap and therefore the gutter channel- they hadn't caused a problem but I was worried that they would eventually.


Having now fitted both, the copies are definitely not the OEM LR parts. I had no issues with the strength of them but the differences I noted are:
- paint finish on copies not as good as (powder?) coating or actually probably anodising...? on LR rails;
- fit in gutter nowhere near as snug - the extrusion is smaller (narrower) I think and the rubber seals on the LR rails are shaped to seal;
- rubber strip seal seems to be of a better quality;
- general fit of the feet etc. is a little better.


Hope that helps.


David



David, I'm looking at these non-genuine rails as well. Are you still happy with them ? Any idea if they're the actual LR parts just sold without the LR logo, or a clone that is approximately the same dimensions ?

[Melbourne Park]

I love the look of the smaller one and it is just as Practical as the weider 1 I find I just finished the trip and I had a 20 inch spare on the roof quickshade 20 litre bottle of water and there was plenty more room left I have seen the recommended size on Discoveries since and then they look disgusting compared to narrower version I'm on my phone at the moment but can post pics if you want to see it

Disgusting is an emotive word!!

I looked at both and much prefer the look of the wider rails ... and I'd wager non Discovery drivers could not tell the difference!!

On an RX Lexus, the wider ones might not look as good, for sure ... IMO!!! But IMO too, the Disco is not an aero queen!! IMO the Disco is the most exceptionally square 4x4 ... even the Range Rover Sport 2012 vintage, looks aerodynamic compared to the boxy Disco. Incidentally, the outer part of the wider rails appear to be removable ... hence mine could be narrowed I think... but it's all a matter of where one sees beauty I guess ... and then, there's fashion. And that changes over time...

And finally, there's Fractals. All part of Chaos Theory ... when you look at a cathedral from one mile away, you see an inspiring silhouette. From 400 metres, you see all the gargoyles. The closer you get, the more details you see. With the Disco roof rack, the issues are the same. From 800 metres way, our racks would look the same. And even close up, from the sides, they look the same. But get close and from behind or the front, they look different. But its only the Disco fraternity who view such things with an architect's eye ... most people view a Disco as a block of flats on wheels, they see the silhouette, and they don't see the details much at all. Evidently my 19" wheels (and I have 18's too) are more expensive than standard fare Disco wheels ... but my neighbour has a white Disco which is a TD version and his wheels should be cheaper ... but I can't tell the difference in them from mine!! His front is different to mine too ... and his tail lights ... and his headlamps ... I put green Land Rover centre wheel caps onto my wheels too ... but damn it, its the stickers from his business on his car that differentiates his car for me.


We'll have to disagree - I looked at the photos here, did my measurements, and I am delighted that I got the wider setup. I was a bit nervous about going the standard width due to the narrower being said to look better, and when I picked up the car, I thought they'd put the narrower ones on! But no - the wider ones do sit well inside the vehicle after all. They look great. IMO!!! It's also easier to access a wider one, and I can even lean my collapsable ladder onto the roof rails and the ladder barely clears the Disco, but it does clear it. And I've got room for more stuff up there, and better leverage for tying things down ... I'll probably add the MaxTrax up there too ... there are some neat ways to mount them, and they are bit bulky. If I ever use them, they'll get filthy, and they really belong on the roof.

Its one thing to carry 70kg of things up there... but to get them up and down in the bush, practicality was top of my list. I have a block and tackle to assist too ... but for 4x4 things, I put practicality high on my priorities. With skis too, I could access them from the wider rack from the road without having to climb, or get dirty from rubbing on the vehicle, and since we cross country ski, that's also important to me.

Incidentally I purchased mine from ARB in Brighton Nepean Highway and got ARB to fit mine, and they did a good job. It cost $100 more than from a roof rack specialist, but I felt if there was a problem, that ARB would be better at fixing it.

[Tombie]

I'm unsure which ones it was, but when looking at aftermarket rails be aware there were some which aren't profiled quite correctly and place stresses into the roof mounts.

As I said - I'm unsure which ones it was, but they definitely can cause an issue

[gedaso]

I have to confess I ended up changing these over to the factory rails, mainly because of the fit in the gutter channel. I was getting pine needles and occasional leaves in the gap and therefore the gutter channel- they hadn't caused a problem but I was worried that they would eventually.



Hope that helps.

Yes, very helpful, thanks. :BigThumb:

[Redback]

Our D4 came with factory long tracks, we decided on the Pioneer Platform, we did try roof bars and a basket for a while, but went back to the platform cause of the wind noise.

Day 2 of ownership
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/D4%20and%20Amarok/DSC09996_zpsf2026b50.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/D4%20and%20Amarok/DSC09996_zpsf2026b50.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/D4%20and%20Amarok/IMG_1633_zpsu38iwl5d.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/D4%20and%20Amarok/IMG_1633_zpsu38iwl5d.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/D4%20and%20Amarok/DSC00051_zps1ru7kvo9.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/D4%20and%20Amarok/DSC00051_zps1ru7kvo9.jpg.html)

[LRD414]

Mine is similar to Baz but the short version, although I got the Rhino tracks and these are also a good fit to the roof mounts.

Regarding width, I considered ther narrow width but decided to go with the standard slightly wider version. Other than the looks (which are subjective anyway) here's a couple of points I think are worth considering:

Awning - with more width you can mount the awning low. This gives less wind noise and keeps the awning close to the roof when its open. And reduces your overall height when the rack is not loaded but the awning remains fitted.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/281.jpg



Shovel - The shovel would not be able to be mounted so snugly if the rack was narrower. Bit hard to see in this photo (red handle, head to the rear). It would still work but with the extra overhang it fits in there nicely.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/780.jpg



Cheers,
Scott

[Redback]

It sits pretty high in the first photo, it is a touch lower now, I removed a few spacers to 15mm to 20mm, couldn't get any lower with these legs, I ummmed and aahhhed about getting the legs that Scott has, but decided at the time I'd spent enough money by then:cool:

Still contemplating about them though:D

[sctsprin]

yep, i've got the narrow width and can't get the rapid wing awning as low as i'd like (without making a much longer bracket which would probably be wobbly), makes it a tight scrape at the shopping centre at 203cm

I ended up making a wind deflector on the weekend to cut down wind noise, makes a huuuuge difference, still tweaking though

no problems fitting my shovel as you have though, however i tried turning the shovel clamps so the tightening knobs faced down and then the shovel glad hit the roof which probably wouldn't happen with the wider rack, maybe.




Mine is similar to Baz but the short version, although I got the Rhino tracks and these are also a good fit to the roof mounts.

Regarding width, I considered ther narrow width but decided to go with the standard slightly wider version. Other than the looks (which are subjective anyway) here's a couple of points I think are worth considering:

Awning - with more width you can mount the awning low. This gives less wind noise and keeps the awning close to the roof when its open. And reduces your overall height when the rack is not loaded but the awning remains fitted.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/281.jpg



Shovel - The shovel would not be able to be mounted so snugly if the rack was narrower. Bit hard to see in this photo (red handle, head to the rear). It would still work but with the extra overhang it fits in there nicely.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/780.jpg



Cheers,
Scott

[sandgroper57]

Very interested in hearing about wind deflectors, I have the pioneer rack on my RRS and makes a lot of noise. Have tried wrapping the bungey strap around the front but no difference, I have an awning and maxtrax on the roof but noise is same with or without them.


Cheers

[sctsprin]

I just bought a sheet of clear grey lexan off eBay, accidentally bought 3mm thick which is too Flexi. Get 6mm or 8mm. I painted the back of it black which gives a gloss finish on the front, though i'd prefer a satin finish on the front to hide fingerprints etc.

You'll need one of these or a jigsaw to cut the sheet 1220x125mm
http://www.hobbytools.com.au/olfa-pcs-panel-line-scorer/

Got my bro in law to bend three 6mm thick aluminium brackets as per attached drawing, he only had 80mm wide bar, so that's what i got, but i'd prefer 5 brackets around 25mm wide ideally to support the sheet better, then 3mm lexan might be okay.

the bracket hangs off the rhino cross rail which sits back about 180mm from the front of the rack, using a unistrut 8mm spring loaded washer, along with 8x25mm stainless bolt and washers. painted the lot with plastidip as i ran out of enamel.

I used double sided tape to position everything, then self tapping screws to lock it down.
It looked much better without the screws but i just didn't trust the tape, even though it was heavy duty outdoor stuff
in hindsight i should have used the ultra thin tape to position and then use screws bolt down, as the thicker tape i used is causing the lexan to dint where the screws are.

the self tappers were also a bad idea as they've galled in the alloy and i can't easily remove them now, i'm going to replace them with button head bolts painted black.

ideally i want to follow the 3D curve of the roof in future iterations and also wrap the deflector around the sides of the rack back a foot or so a bit like the prospeed rack. Land Rover Discovery 3 and 4 Roof Rack : ProSpeed (http://prospeed-group.co.uk/product/discovery-roof-rack/)


cheers
james

[Melbourne Park]

Here is my Rhino Pioneer roof. I have left rings on the top, but removed the tyre and the jerry can holder. Mine is the shorter length and hardly makes wind noise.

The side view it looks the same as the narrower version, note the low feet:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/690.jpg

Close up to show height, note the ring which I should have removed (takes 20 seconds with a lever through the ring to loosen it,
it then slides to a gap in the roof material and it pops out)
the ring shown was one of three to strap the tyre down with, the third strap had ratchet lever to tighten the three straps hence locking the wheel/tyre down:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/691.jpg

Three quarter from behind the roof still does not look that wide:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/692.jpg

This looks less good I guess for those that like the narrower look:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/693.jpg

Back View:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/694.jpg

[eddy]

Just finished fitting a Dolium K9 Rak.Would have liked it a bit lower and it would be possible, by cutting the fittings down.Guess they have set it that high, for those that wish to polish the roof!Easy to fit,after wasting time trying to remove the 'christmas tree' type plugs[just cut them off and then clean out the threads with a 6mm tap]Bit of a whistle above 80kmh so will try adjusting the wind
deflector.

[sctsprin]

looks good, are you happy with it?

[eddy]

Yep,it will do the job.Hope to fit a solar panel up the front,spare wheel on the rear and an awning on passenger side[for the awning tent,a left over from the Defender days]I have only driven up the road with the rack on, but think the whistle is from the deflector directing air across the front mount......its not too bad ,but a bit of adjustment should fix it.

[QueenKat]

Melbourne_Park. We are planning on using our pioneer platform tack from previous vehicle. Are the short feet a standard attachment ? Pick up our disco next week. Your set up looks good