Decent 19" Tyres now available

[Basil135]

Goodyear have now released their Wrangler Duratrac to the Australian market, in a 255 / 55 / 19 fitting.

I dropped into the local Goodyear tyre shop this morning just to get a price.

Please check the "body parts for sale" in the Markets, as I will be offering up my right arm, and my left leg. :o

Fitted & balanced etc - $545 each

I have however, found them cheaper interstate, however, as they are not from a Goodyear dealer, they will not carry their warranty. But, for $200 per tyre less, I am already nearly 2 tyres in front.

So, they are available in a 19" size. Just be prepared to pay dearly for them.

[Redback]

$446.00 at Tyresales

Baz.

[Graeme]

They're still only passenger construction but perhaps better than some others.

[RobA]

Not on the Goodyear Australia website just yet which makes me wonder if they are a grey import. The Tyresales site gives them a load rating of 111s which is slightly improved from 109 on the HT which are standard and if our experience with them on other 4WD is anything to go by they are not too bad at all.

Will still be putting 697's on our GOE rims which I hope arrive soon

Rob

[Ben_Vapid]

Are these much difference to the Cooper LTZ Zeons? I was quoted $420 on those fitted recently.

[Basil135]

Not on the Goodyear Australia website just yet which makes me wonder if they are a grey import. The Tyresales site gives them a load rating of 111s which is slightly improved from 109 on the HT which are standard and if our experience with them on other 4WD is anything to go by they are not too bad at all.

Will still be putting 697's on our GOE rims which I hope arrive soon

Rob

The dealer I spoke to this morning had difficulty finding them as well, as they didn't show in his current price list.

But, he found them another way.

And no, not a grey import. This was at a Goodyear dealer.

[RHS58]

Still reckon I'll try the Hankooks next time.

[~Rich~]

$545 per tyre!
What a rip off. :eek:
Buy 5 of them for $2725 and not even LT construction, even at $446 its $2230.

Cooper LTZ Zeon's in 19's do not have a great record for sidewall strength, LTZ's in 18's are tougher though.

[Graeme]

Still reckon I'll try the Hankooks next time.
I'm nervous about the Hankook's bulging sidewalls being exposed to rock damage. I thought my LT245/70R17 Duratracs on 7.5" rims were bad but the Hankooks are much worse and have the 19" short sidewalls to add to the pinch risk. If you get the opportunity, have a look at a fitted 19" Hankook before ordering any.

[gghaggis]

I'm nervous about the Hankook's bulging sidewalls being exposed to rock damage. I thought my LT245/70R17 Duratracs on 7.5" rims were bad but the Hankooks are much worse and have the 19" short sidewalls to add to the pinch risk. If you get the opportunity, have a look at a fitted 19" Hankook before ordering any.

I have them on both our vehicles (in 19") - run at 16 psi I don't notice any significant increase in sidewall bulge over the standard road tyres that come OEM.

So far they're an excellent choice for light off-roading.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Tombie]

Bytemark staked a Hankook at Melrose, but went on to complete the rest of the trip without incident...

[Bytemrk]

Yep,

Put a rock through a sidewall scambling down from here on a trip out of Melrose. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11102703_414106022095741_2467374572812321170_n.jpg ?oh=dc9c28c6374c5b419e07e4484d6c7f5f&oe=559A6F7B&__gda__=1441105650_f4d1633bbb7ab4bafb20379da91e4e5 e

5 minutes after the other D4 put a rock through the side of a Cooper.

In my case, honestly I think it was driver error / bit of bad luck rather than the tyre. As Tombie said, we went on to the rest of the trip without issue. And we took on plenty of nasty rocky terrain.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/sa-reports/218345-aliens-great-sa-trip-3.html#post2348828

I'd certainly buy the Hankooks again. At around $315 a tyre its a big difference from the so called premium brands.

[Graeme]

If the RRV that I end-up with has 19" rims then the Hankooks are my current choice, but an 18" conversion will occur if the tyres or rims don't survive well enough. The Hankooks are cheap enough to destroy an occasional one but I don't want the inconvenience of repeated failures.

[Bytemrk]

I'd agree Graeme, by choice I'd have 18' rims... but for the moment the Hankooks are doing the job for me.

[Wheelan]

If the RRV that I end-up with has 19" rims then the Hankooks are my current choice, but an 18" conversion will occur if the tyres or rims don't survive well enough. The Hankooks are cheap enough to destroy an occasional one but I don't want the inconvenience of repeated failures.
I was almost prepared to replace a 19 inch Hankook every time I went out,
http://wheelan.smugmug.com/Quick-share-pics/i-V8wkcs8/0/XL/DSCF2982-XL.jpg
then decided to get the 18s. You can see what I put on here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/218692-toyo-at2-285-60-18-high-country-trip.html

[Graeme]

I recall seeing your post of the special attention needed for the tyre! I note that the split is below the thicker upper sidewall section so the upper section may be more resilient. I also note the mark on the rim suggesting that the sidewall was pinched rather than a sharp rock or stick having poked a hole.

[Bytemrk]

Wheelan what sort of pressures where you running? I suspect that will make a big difference too.

[NavyDiver]

Still do not understand why Landrover is putting 19inch rims on a 4wd. D4s are nice cars. D3s with 18 are a lot better, get down to 17 inch or less and the options and ability goes up as the prices come down.

Big brakes excuse is no longer funny IMO. PIMP up street cars with big rims and skinny rubber. When my D3 dies (hopefully in several hundred thousand KM) I will not be joining the D4 crew.

[Bytemrk]

People said the same when the D2's had 16's and all the toyonissan boys had 15's ten years ago.

I agree 18 would be better, but the 19's on mine are like that to fit the Brembo brakes which stop the car brilliantly.

The 19's will still get you plenty of interesting places.. I did most of the SA trip linked above at about 10% down when off road, including some very sharp rocky tracks in the Flinders. They also handled some pretty rocky stuff in the Lithgow last year without issue as well as plenty of exploring Vic ..... You just need to adjust the way you think.... unless I was desperate or on very soft sand, I wouldn't drop my pressures by more than 20%.

Tombie and I took a close look at his 265 18's next to my 255 19's and in the real world the actual height of tyre side wall is very similar... the 18 was maybe 1 cm taller.

Stupid thing is there is a better range of off road tyres available for 20's than 19's :angel:

[Tombie]

Over the years I have seen plenty of staked tyres; fortunately never one of mine.

This has happened on vehicles running 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19" rims.

Besides those occasions where it was just bad luck - ie a Gibber was flicked up by a front tyre only to stake the rear tyre... Most were through one of the following:


Inattention to prevailing track surface
Incorrect tyre pressure
Unsuitable speed

Mark and I also had long discussions around the potential in a D3/D4/RRS with its effortless ride and comfort to easily be going significantly quicker than suited to the real track conditions.


Both of us agreed that on surfaces where the appropriate speed was around 80-90km/h we were quite comfortable pushing well above this - triple digits and climbing!


Whilst great fun, this places increased risk around staking a tyre.


I was impressed by the Hankook tyres, showing no damage from chipping etc after some testing tracks. My 18" D697s also faired very well.


Would I see the 19's as an impediment to serious use? Not if I was using the vehicle appropriately offroad, observing track conditions and driving accordingly.


Where I see the Goodyear having an advantage over the Hankook.


Mud - more open tread design would (and does) clear better
Loose surfaces - the squared off shoulder/tread gives better lateral stability on these surface types.



Cheers
Mike

[Graeme]

but the 19's on mine are like that to fit the Brembo brakesThey're not Brembos - at best to use LR's phrase in the D4 release promos "inspired by Brembo".

[jonesy63]

Well, the rotors are made by Brembo... :angel:

[Graeme]

Well, the rotors are made by Brembo... :angel:

Are they indeed? My vehicle was fitted with Ferodo pads and as Ferodo make a SBD000624 disc I suspect mine are Ferodo (or are Ferodo and Brembo related?). It appears that anyone who makes these discs label them as the same part number, including Brembo, so I can't positively determine what brand my discs are. However if you've seen a Brembo name on one then it would seem that LR changed suppliers after mine was built which would not surprise me as lots of early 3.0 D4s had front discs replaced to overcome shuddering whilst braking.

[Ooops]

I have them on both our vehicles (in 19") - run at 16 psi I don't notice any significant increase in sidewall bulge over the standard road tyres that come OEM.

So far they're an excellent choice for light off-roading.

Cheers,

Gordon

Gordon,

what do you define as light off roading?

Olly

[gghaggis]

Gordon,

what do you define as light off roading?

Olly

The sorts of things we do on our training days - search YouTube or Facebook for Green Oval Experience for some videos.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Ooops]

The sorts of things we do on our training days - search YouTube or Facebook for Green Oval Experience for some videos.

Cheers,

Gordon

Will do, thanks.

[simmo1]

Hi Folks,

Does anyone know if there is anyone is Aus selling these tires: "Goodyear Wrangler A-T Adventure with Kevlar" in size 255/60R19. From what I can see they appear to be a pretty good 19" with slightly better sidewall height and maybe a robust construction. At this size they might even correct the speedo error!

I think a few folk might have privately imported a few in here and there, be really good if they were an available choice though.

Cheers, Simmo

[Owen]

Goodyear Wrangler A-T Adventure with Kevlar" in size 255/60R19, available on tyre rack for under $240 each.....would be worth trying to get a set in my opinion. If I find a good deal I will post here.

I did try goodyear here in Aus......it seems they don't believe me they exist in that size !

[Graeme]

Is there an alternate tyre in this size that could be purchased locally if needed? Might have to get 6 to be sure of having a full set and a spare if 1 gets destroyed.

[Bytemrk]

Good point Graeme,

Hard enough getting 255/55/19 outback as it is....

[Graeme]

Even getting a local tyre outlet to get one in a day or so vs having to import another 1 or 2 or scrap the remainder. Note quite the same as importing a special carcase in a size that's readily available locally.