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SilvaD4
5th May 2015, 10:52 PM
Here is a question to those "purchased from new" one owner 2009 to 2011 D4 owners....

Knowing what you know now, if you were offered $4K by LR to extent your new D4 warranty to 5 years / 200,000 kms, would you have taken it??

Are there any D4 owners who have spent more then $4K on repairs that would have been covered by an extended LR warranty?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Fred Nerk
5th May 2015, 11:04 PM
I have faced this question and made my decision thus.

The people who sell the extended warranty expect to make a profit. Therefore they reckon it will cost less than the premium to pay for repairs. Similar deal with any insurance and you need to decide how you feel about your chances.

For me the additional freedom to modify the car as much as I like with no worries about the effect on a warranty was important too.

I decided against the extended warranty.

LandyAndy
5th May 2015, 11:08 PM
It was included with mine,one of the reasons I went brand new.
Andrew

SBD4
5th May 2015, 11:34 PM
I waited until the end of the factory warranty period to get a sense of how things might go. Based on some of the issues people have experienced here, I decided to take the extended warranty.

As it happens mine is in for some warranty work as I write this. I have an intermittent issue with the car not starting (worse kind of problem - hard to find). They are replacing the CJB to see if that fixes the issue. Replaced the steering column lock before that. Also fixing a leak from the transfer case.

So, at this point I am glad to have the extended warranty as I have peace of mind not having to worry about how much it will cost.

I got mine for $3500.

LGM
5th May 2015, 11:38 PM
For me it was an easy, I took the extended warranty.

You see, I have this 'Special Lucky Streak' that comes into play at the most inconvenient of family financial times.

I can be so lucky that I can have issues that no one has ever heard off before!

But that as a rule that only happens when I have no cover.:censored:

LandyAndy
6th May 2015, 07:43 PM
For me it was an easy, I took the extended warranty.

You see, I have this 'Special Lucky Streak' that comes into play at the most inconvenient of family financial times.

I can be so lucky that I can have issues that no one has ever heard off before!

But that as a rule that only happens when I have no cover.:censored:

I have never bought a new car before,the free extended warranty made the pain of the transaction easier to swallow,they also helped there with the 4.9% finance deal.
At the end of 5 years I will have the option of keeping this one or going new again and keeping a vehicle under warranty.
Seen BIG expensive jobs done under warranty on extended warranty plans on machinery at work.If you can afford to do so it makes alot of sense.
Andrew

JamesH
6th May 2015, 08:26 PM
I have until November to make up my mind. Ive had the body off to replace the 2nd turbo ,done 42000km and it's been pretty pain free so far. The second turbo issue was apparent from day 1. Smoked under load, they up graded the drain which solved the issue as far as I was concerned but they found a leak in a scheduled service and told me they wanted to ditch the turbo and start again.

I'm leaning towards not going the warranty but this thread might change my mind.

LandyAndy
6th May 2015, 08:36 PM
James,if you intend keeping it and can afford the warranty its a no brainer.
We had a crate motor fitted to my Volvo grader after a second engine faliure under the extended warranty.Over $30000 claim.There were several other big claims too,hence now having CAT gear,they too are under extended warrantys;););););)
I would love to keep this D4 to big km,BUT I rekon if I get a good offer at the end of the warranty and like the new replacement and can afford to I will ditch it.
Andrew

sniegy
6th May 2015, 08:38 PM
I purchased one for mine & last month the warranty expired & on the final warranty inspection the rear shocks were noted to be a little bouncy.

I am having them replaced tomorrow as parts had to be ordered.

In the 5 yrs i have had mine i have only had fail the Air Suspension Compressor, Battery, Rear Shocks & Hand Brake Module.

I also purchased it for "Peace of Mind".
Knowing that i can travel anywhere in this beautiful country & know that i am covered.

HTH
Cheers

LandyAndy
6th May 2015, 08:42 PM
I purchased one for mine & last month the warranty expired & on the final warranty inspection the rear shocks were noted to be a little bouncy.

I am having them replaced tomorrow as parts had to be ordered.

In the 5 yrs i have had mine i have only had fail the Air Suspension Compressor, Battery, Rear Shocks & Hand Brake Module.

I also purchased it for "Peace of Mind".
Knowing that i can travel anywhere in this beautiful country & know that i am covered.

HTH
Cheers

Well there you go :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:.
Andrew

JamesH
6th May 2015, 08:44 PM
Sigh, I just don't know. In November I'll have done 45000km, so that's 15k a year. The warranty would see me out to 75k.

It's a question of how Murphy works for me. Will it all go kaput between 45-75 or will a I pay a few grand and then everything goes kaput after 75k, and I get bit twice.

But I do have the money in the bank.

LandyAndy
6th May 2015, 09:01 PM
Sigh, I just don't know. In November I'll have done 45000km, so that's 15k a year. The warranty would see me out to 75k.

It's a question of how Murphy works for me. Will it all go kaput between 45-75 or will a I pay a few grand and then everything goes kaput after 75k, and I get bit twice.

But I do have the money in the bank.

Another way to look at it,how much did you spend fixing the old Deefer on repairs that could have been warranty jobs.Probably not many just like my old D2.
Now in the modern world,how much can you afford to shell out if there is an issue???Could be expensive!!!!
Andrew

Bytemrk
6th May 2015, 09:06 PM
I'm in a similar boat, mine runs out end of June and I've been researching options.

Today I was offered 2 years, 200,000 km ( Mine has done 84500) genuine LR for $3850 from a dealer. ( RRP is now $4600)

I think I am going to take it.

BMKal
7th May 2015, 10:13 AM
I'm approaching 100,000k's on mine now, and the factory warranty ran out in January this year.

Based on the number of issues I've had with the vehicle to date (virtually NIL) I decided not to extend the warranty on mine.

Another consideration was the D2 which is still in the family. It has had all the usual D2 Td5 work done on it (oil pump bolt replaced, wiring harness replaced, upgraded the front prop shaft, and recently a new roof lining installed). Other than that, hardly a cent spent on it other than for a couple of very minor leaks, and replaced a starter motor. It's coming up for that time when the head needs to come off to replace the plastic dowels as recommended to me by Kevin at Rovertech - but if the D4 ends up being as reliable as the D2 has been, I'm thinking that an extended warranty is just money in someone else's pocket for no real benefit to me. ;)

PJR
7th May 2015, 08:11 PM
I um'd and r'd whether to go with an extended warranty at the end of the factory warranty 12 months ago. I think I went the right way. I had the suspension compressor replaced last December and just had the alternator replaced today - both fairly exy I believe. I went with the Landrover/ Alliance and they had no issues taking up the claims. I paid $3500 but could have paid $2500 when I brought the car new!!
I guess it's always going to be a bit of a gamble.

Wirraway
10th May 2015, 09:14 AM
I took the gamble when my 2011 SDV6 D4 hit 100K kms and didn't opt for an extended warranty. Decision was base on the fact that the vehicle had performed faultlessly since I purchased new, ie, no warranty work at all. Now at 140K kms and the only work needed so far has been the replacement of the 2nd turbo oil drain pipe to fix a smoking issue. Can't remember the cost but ended up only paying for parts because dealer stuffed me around.
Happy with my decision, so far!

DiscoMick
10th May 2015, 08:30 PM
Not a Landy, but we just bought a new Mazda 2 and bought an extra 3 years of warranty despite Mazda's good quality reputation simply because we expect to retire before the 6 years is up and wanted to have warranty protection while retired. Combined with lifetime fixed price servicing we should sleep well at night.

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nat_89
11th May 2015, 07:24 AM
I wish more companies would be like Kia who i believe now has a 7 year unlimited KM warranty although I've not looked into it and dont intend to own one but saw it advertised on TV and though jeeze thats an unreal idea!!

vnx205
11th May 2015, 07:33 AM
There is an issue about extended warranties that no-one has mentioned yet.

What is actually covered by the warranty and what is excluded?

A recent episode of 'The Checkout" gave the impression that you would be wise to read the fine print very carefully. It seems that some warranties have so many exclusions or even worse, clauses that basically let the dealer decide if something will be covered, that they are almost worthless.

This is only of academic interest to me since in 52 years of motoring I have not owned a new car and i can't see it happening in the next 52 years either. :)

vnx205
11th May 2015, 07:42 AM
I wish more companies would be like Kia who i believe now has a 7 year unlimited KM warranty although I've not looked into it and dont intend to own one but saw it advertised on TV and though jeeze thats an unreal idea!!

We have come a long way since the days of the 12 months/12,000 miles warranty. That effectively covered the vehicle for 10 days of motoring.

If you drove at 50 mph that would be 1,200 miles every 24 hours, so after 10 days the 12,000 miles would be up.

Jack Murray (or some other well known rally driver) did that in a Morris 1500 some years ago. He and his co-driver drove non-stop between Darwin and Adelaide and back several times. That was long before the Stuart Highway was sealed. I think their warranty lasted just over a week.

nat_89
11th May 2015, 11:10 AM
There is an issue about extended warranties that no-one has mentioned yet.

What is actually covered by the warranty and what is excluded?

A recent episode of 'The Checkout" gave the impression that you would be wise to read the fine print very carefully. It seems that some warranties have so many exclusions or even worse, clauses that basically let the dealer decide if something will be covered, that they are almost worthless.

This is only of academic interest to me since in 52 years of motoring I have not owned a new car and i can't see it happening in the next 52 years either. :)

I saw that and what a great article it was i was wondering if anyone on here saw it!! Very interesting that certainly is expected that from 2011 your consumer rights overrule any warranty anyway but it does see you need to read a lot into the fine print!


We have come a long way since the days of the 12 months/12,000 miles warranty. That effectively covered the vehicle for 10 days of motoring.

If you drove at 50 mph that would be 1,200 miles every 24 hours, so after 10 days the 12,000 miles would be up.

Jack Murray (or some other well known rally driver) did that in a Morris 1500 some years ago. He and his co-driver drove non-stop between Darwin and Adelaide and back several times. That was long before the Stuart Highway was sealed. I think their warranty lasted just over a week.

HAHAHA bloody hell i cant believe that used to be a warranty back then it would have lasted me 6 months hahaha

Grumbles
11th May 2015, 11:40 AM
After market warranties are divided into two categories. Those offered by insurance companies and the rest issued by private companies.

The insurance company warranty provides you with legal rights enshrined in specific legislation. Your rights are also defined in the contract and these rights have weight. In any dispute you also have the option of appealing to the insurance ombudsman. There is no arbitrary "claim refused" option for the policy administrators to take.

The private company owned warranties are the ones which can leave you without any coverage aka a claim may be refused at any time by the company without reason and this is written into the contract. These warranties are not covered by any legislation apart from general consumer protection laws.

I have no issues in buying an insurance company owned warranty but I would never buy a policy from a private warranty company.

There is a relatively minor player third type of warranty on the market. These are owned by car dealers and administered by them. They do come with specific service requirements and list in some detail what is covered and what is not.

My experience with the insurance and car dealer administered warranties has been fantastic. No problems at all. My one experience with a private warranty company was an absolute disaster.

letherm
11th May 2015, 02:53 PM
Jack Murray (or some other well known rally driver) did that in a Morris 1500 some years ago. He and his co-driver drove non-stop between Darwin and Adelaide and back several times. That was long before the Stuart Highway was sealed. I think their warranty lasted just over a week.

And I thought picking up my first car on Thursday and booking it's first 1,000 km service on Monday was bad. :p

Martin

vnx205
11th May 2015, 04:41 PM
Just in case anyone doubted my story about the Morris 1500, read about it here.
Morris 1500 - Outback Marathon (http://www.elevenhundred.com/morris1500/marathon.php)

On one trip, they averaged 81 mph (130 km/h). If they could have kept that up their warranty would have lasted just over 6 days. :)

letherm
11th May 2015, 06:01 PM
Just in case anyone doubted my story about the Morris 1500, read about it here.
Morris 1500 - Outback Marathon (http://www.elevenhundred.com/morris1500/marathon.php)

On one trip, they averaged 81 mph (130 km/h). If they could have kept that up their warranty would have lasted just over 6 days. :)

Thanks for the link.

Brought back fond memories of the Morris 1100 I learnt to drive on :)

Dad was an assistant superintendent of the afternoon shift at BMC/Leyland. He took me in to look at the Austin 1800s that were used in the London to Sydney marathon when I was young. They had handles on the boot like the american secret service guys used to have on the president's car. Can't remember exactly what they were for but seem to remember it was something to do with recovery.

Funnily enough an 1100 was parked down the street a couple of weeks ago. I think it had broken down as I saw two guys with it the next day and the bonnet was up and it hasn't been back since.

simoncs
31st July 2015, 10:30 AM
hi everyone,

my warranty expires in Sept.
I have already had issues this year which would have resulted in a $3500 bill (covered by warranty), and whilst having the brakes done by an independent, they mentioned the sump gasket is leaking oil, as well as both turbos.
Have booked the car in to the LR dealer to have these rectified before i come out of warranty.

Initially i was thinking of taking my chances without an extended warranty, but the independent recommended i get it (even though that would mean a loss of business to himself).
The last time i enquired at Trivett they quoted about $4500. I know some people on here have shopped around for a deal,but the independent told my they thought there was a clause in the warranty that states that you must have the car looked at by the dealer you bought the warranty from. Does that sound correct? As that would limit me buying the warranty from a Sydney dealer, as opposed to looking for best deal around the country.

thanks

Simon

letherm
31st July 2015, 12:19 PM
From memory of previous threads about extended warranty there is the LR issued one as well as one from Allianz that you can buy instead. There are apparently differences between the two even though Allianz is the underwriter for the LR warranty.

I bought the extended LR warranty shortly after buying the car as I had read that the premiums increase over time and given the high cost of some repairs felt that it was worth while as an insurance policy.

Ardent believer in Murphy's Law :p

My dealer, Purnells at Blakehurst gave me the following offers shortly after purchase (end November 2013): Normally, 12 months was $3595, 24 months was $3995. I was offered 24 months for $3400 and got them to take an extra $100 off ending up paying $3300. In both cases it only extends the time not the mileage. So I have 5 years and 100,000 km warranty cover.

It's a personal choice whether you feel it's worth paying versus the possible cost of future repairs. I'm the cautious type and so I paid for the extended warranty.

Hope this helps a bit.

Regards,
Martin

SBD4
31st July 2015, 01:05 PM
From memory of previous threads about extended warranty there is the LR issued one as well as one from Allianz that you can buy instead. There are apparently differences between the two even though Allianz is the underwriter for the LR warranty.

I bought the extended LR warranty shortly after buying the car as I had read that the premiums increase over time and given the high cost of some repairs felt that it was worth while as an insurance policy.

Ardent believer in Murphy's Law :p

My dealer, Purnells at Blakehurst gave me the following offers shortly after purchase (end November 2013): Normally, 12 months was $3595, 24 months was $3995. I was offered 24 months for $3400 and got them to take an extra $100 off ending up paying $3300. In both cases it only extends the time not the mileage. So I have 5 years and 100,000 km warranty cover.

It's a personal choice whether you feel it's worth paying versus the possible cost of future repairs. I'm the cautious type and so I paid for the extended warranty.

Hope this helps a bit.

Regards,
Martin
Hi Martin, I extended my warranty with Purnell also. I think you will find that the warranty extends for both time and mileage. My car is now @ 160K Kms and have had no issue with having warranty work done. My understanding is that you would now have a 5Yr/200K Km warranty.

Well worth the money in my book. Incidentally I got mine for $3400 2 years ago. It will run out in October.

DiscoMick
31st July 2015, 03:04 PM
Always go for the warranty offered by the manufacturer, not one offered as a dealer warranty, which is basically useless.
The manufacturer's warranty means the manufacturer is responsible, whereas the dealer one is just an attempt by the dealer to make a larger commission out of you and is pretty worthless if there is a real problem.

simoncs
31st July 2015, 03:55 PM
i subsequently spoke to Allianz. they confirmed that with the Land rover assured warranty you can service at any dealer. You can either increase cover to 200k or leave it at 100k which is cheaper. best price so far for 100k has been 3500. i have only done 35k in 3 years.

letherm
31st July 2015, 04:13 PM
i subsequently spoke to Allianz. they confirmed that with the Land rover assured warranty you can service at any dealer. You can either increase cover to 200k or leave it at 100k which is cheaper. best price so far for 100k has been 3500. i have only done 35k in 3 years.

Looks as though mine was the 100kms version SBD4. I thought it was 200 too but it shows on service forms as 100. It's not going to matter in my case as I've only done 12500 since I bought in Nov '13. Might check into it though to see what was actually quoted so thanks. I also find Purnell Bros good to deal with. :)

Martin