1 week old and my 1st issue

[Wheatos]

So, it's day 7 and 250km into my brand new 110 and I think I've struck my first mechanical issue.

Twice today and once on Saturday, whilst driving in medium stop start traffic (ie, not the peak hour crawl), the car seems to get 'heavy'. It loses lots of revs in the shift between 3rd and 4th (up and down), and from 3rd to 2nd, and it feels like it's labouring along. If I put it in neutral, the car slows down very quickly, and their is no momentum or rolling. Even on an incline, it stays put with no brake and in neutral.

I check the handbrake 50 times, the transfer lever is in H, and the dashboard for warning signs, but nothing. It appears to correct it self if I turn the engine off and pull out the keys and start her up again after a 20-30 sec wait.

There is no doubt a sense of paranoia from my behalf, but the difference between the normal and the laboured driving is stark.

Before I head back to the dealer, has anyone experienced something like this, or can refer me to another thread?

Thanks in advance

Pete

Edit: there is no obvious difference in sound.

[ian4002000]

What revs are you doing when the problem is occurring ?
Do you have ABS on your 110 ?

[PAT303]

Does the hand brake lever pull all the way to the top or half way?. Pat

[Wheatos]

What revs are you doing when the problem is occurring ?
Do you have ABS on your 110 ?

Between 2000 - 3000. Yes, it has ABS.

The paranoia in me thinks I can smell a faint hot/ burning smell when I get out and look around the car.

Edit: I have just driven the car again, and it occurs regardless of the stop start. 9.30pm and a free run, but the heaviness kicks in after a few stops.

[Wheatos]

Does the hand brake lever pull all the way to the top or half way?. Pat

On the basis the handbrake is off at 3 o'clock, it is on at 1 o'clock. Reasonably 'up'.

[ozy013]

Between 2000 - 3000. Yes, it has ABS.

The paranoia in me thinks I can smell a faint hot/ burning smell when I get out and look around the car.

Edit: I have just driven the car again, and it occurs regardless of the stop start. 9.30pm and a free run, but the heaviness kicks in after a few stops.

Just a suggestion, but I would get under the vehicle, if it's safe to do so, and check the handbrake drum, how hot/warm to touch is it? Also check each individual brake disc, how hot are they in comparison to each other.

[loneranger]

Is the transfer lever engaging correctly? We've had problems with ours and it will be going back soon for another check. The initial issue apparently was 2 different sized washers being put in the wrong places.

[Wheatos]

Is the transfer lever engaging correctly? We've had problems with ours and it will be going back soon for another check. The initial issue apparently was 2 different sized washers being put in the wrong places.

I have no reason to think it isn't engaged properly. I tested its positioning when I got home today. It was reasonably defined between H N L and when locked. Plus the dash light came on when locked.

[PAT303]

Just a suggestion, but I would get under the vehicle, if it's safe to do so, and check the handbrake drum, how hot/warm to touch is it? Also check each individual brake disc, how hot are they in comparison to each other.

Sounds like a good place to start with me,I had the very same problem 25 years ago with my series 3,it was the brake master cylinder adjusted without free play causing the brakes the bind. Pat

[PhilipA]

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Regards Philip A

[Didge]

x3
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[LouisW]

I am no mechanic but mine has been with the dealer for 4 weeks now trying to sort out an ABS problem both Landrover aus and UK are involved. Unit replaced but apparently it is some mapping problem the ABS is not talking to something. As I said I am no Mechanic. So I have told them don't care just fix it and to be fair they trying their best and have given me a Jaguar XF replacement car.

My advice take it to the dealer and leave it there till they fix it.

[Wheatos]

Just a suggestion, but I would get under the vehicle, if it's safe to do so, and check the handbrake drum, how hot/warm to touch is it? Also check each individual brake disc, how hot are they in comparison to each other.

I did two drives of the same trip. One in heavy traffic with plenty of brake use, and one with little traffic and very limited brake use.

The first trip resulted in the laboured effort and very hot rims (sawtooth alloys) x 4, whereas the second trip the alloys were reasonably cool.

I'm dropping the car back with the dealer this afternoon to fit my APT steering & diff guards, Rijidij wheel carrier and Mulgo bumperettes, and then they'll keep it for the brake issue. Looks like I'm getting a Disco 4 for the troubles. :cool:

[PAT303]

There's two with the same problem,if your rims are hot the brakes are coming on no question. Pat

[EastFreo]

I am sure it will get fixed quickly and you will be back in and enjoying it in no time. Worst thing is with the Discovery the wife may wonder why she gave you the ok to get the Defender!

[Wheatos]

I am sure it will get fixed quickly and you will be back in and enjoying it in no time. Worst thing is with the Discovery the wife may wonder why she gave you the ok to get the Defender!

Haha, she's all over it already! The Disco had 150km on it, and they accommodated my request for a 7 seater. The good lady reckons I now don't need a car for the next week or so, and she's taken over the driving.

I wonder what happens when I hose out the back :wasntme:

[Land739]

I had a similar issue in early '80's in a jap sedan.

After various mechanics and engineers ( proper auto engineers) replaced kits on all corners and master; with no improvement the car was taken to a retired bloke out bush.

2 days later all resolved as the brake light switch nut/bolt were loose and not allowing the pedal to fully return; ergo; the brakes master being ever so slightly on all the time.

Maybe something to consider.
All the best.:D

[newhue]

Not too bad, I had my first problem on the morning of the second day and lost it for two weeks. Same problem surfaced second day of getting it back, then lost lost the vehicle for 6 weeks.
I suggest you focus on a good relationship with the dealer. Be casual, understanding, trusting. You can be use the awkward uncomfortable truth as time wears on but don't harrase them. It can be frustrating.
There is a lot of good info on here, but most of us are guessing at potential issues. These tend to make you paranoid of your cars reliability, so just let the dealer do their thing. From my experience they will go beyond (sorry the pun) you expectorations through out the whole warranty if you have a good relationship with them.

Send them pics of your car on trips when you get it back, tell them how great it is. They like to see their product out there and working well.

Good luck with it and just enjoy the loaner.

[PAT303]

I had a similar issue in early '80's in a jap sedan.

After various mechanics and engineers ( proper auto engineers) replaced kits on all corners and master; with no improvement the car was taken to a retired bloke out bush.

2 days later all resolved as the brake light switch nut/bolt were loose and not allowing the pedal to fully return; ergo; the brakes master being ever so slightly on all the time.

Maybe something to consider.
All the best.:D

Excellent post,a bloke had the very same problem on the defender2 forum when I asked,another thought the vent in the brake master cylinder could be blocked causing a vacuum holding the cylinder on. Pat

[Wheatos]

Not too bad, I had my first problem on the morning of the second day and lost it for two weeks. Same problem surfaced second day of getting it back, then lost lost the vehicle for 6 weeks.
I suggest you focus on a good relationship with the dealer. Be casual, understanding, trusting. You can be use the awkward uncomfortable truth as time wears on but don't harrase them. It can be frustrating.
There is a lot of good info on here, but most of us are guessing at potential issues. These tend to make you paranoid of your cars reliability, so just let the dealer do their thing. From my experience they will go beyond (sorry the pun) you expectorations through out the whole warranty if you have a good relationship with them.

Send them pics of your car on trips when you get it back, tell them how great it is. They like to see their product out there and working well.

Good luck with it and just enjoy the loaner.

Good advice newhue. Thankfully I've got a good relationship with the new car salesman, and he's aware of some of my frustrations with seperate issues (delays to accessories) and he's doing his best to help.

[afb]

Good advice newhue. Thankfully I've got a good relationship with the new car salesman, and he's aware of some of my frustrations with seperate issues (delays to accessories) and he's doing his best to help.

Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with it Peter, especially after waiting so long. Ask the dealer for me where my snorkel is when you see him.
Cheers
Adrian

[Wheatos]

So they've fixed the issue.

Apparently "the brake switch was out of adjustment causing it to think the brake pedal was still being pushed causing the abs pump to stay activated and the brakes to hang on if that makes sense".

They noticed it as soon as they drove it, and I certainly noticed the difference as soon as I got it back.

She's now running nicely, and I'm able to get out on the road to give plenty of waves :D.

Cheers

Peter

[ozy013]

Good to hear that you got it sorted Peter, now it's time to get out and about and enjoy.

[Pickles2]

So they've fixed the issue.

Apparently "the brake switch was out of adjustment causing it to think the brake pedal was still being pushed causing the abs pump to stay activated and the brakes to hang on if that makes sense".

They noticed it as soon as they drove it, and I certainly noticed the difference as soon as I got it back.

She's now running nicely, and I'm able to get out on the road to give plenty of waves :D.

Cheers

Peter
Glad you got her sorted.
Any pics with accessories etc fitted?
Pickles.