puma 2.4 100k service help

[sullivan]

Hey all,
So I've got the 100k service (and my first service) coming up on my 2010 defender. I've only had it a couple months, I haven't been extremely neglectful.
Just wondering what I should be on the look out for, apart from oils and stuff. I say 'stuff' I'm not very mechanically minded and am learning slowly! So I apologise if that offends anyone! I did drill out a pop rivet and replaced it though, not sure of the quality at bunnings... so if anyone knows where to get good quality pop rivets in sydney that'd be ace. I'm also still toying with the idea of changing the oil myself, I bought the filter and plug just haven't worked up the courage yet!

Anyway, my dad reckons the timing belt on diesels at 100k but I'm not sure.
Next question is who I get to do it! I've got Pat (my local) who is a champ but has never serviced one so thinking I should really go to a specialist.
I'm in Sydney and a few people have recommended Davis Performance Landys out in Annangrove.
I'm also a 5'4 lass and don't wanna be ripped off. (not sure what my height has to do with it, maybe if I was a basketballer they'd be concerned I'd have very tall muscley friends?) and what kinda pricing should I be expecting, vague question I know.

any help would be greatly appreciated!
Or if there is an identical thread that I've over looked feel free to point me in the right direction.

Thanks heaps!
Hayley

[PAT303]

Hayley,your vehicle doesn't have a timing belt.All fluids changed,engine,tranny,clutch,brake,all filters,air,fuel,engine,all grease points greased and go over all the suspension bolts with a torque wrench,go over the whole vehicle.I'll give you some good advice,go online and get a service kit from MM LR,DLS spares etc to suit a TDCi,you'll save a bundle of cash,get two and save more as well as being ready for next time.Your local bloke should have no worries doing it,Defenders are a simple beast. Pat

[sullivan]

Thanks heaps Pat,
I got a couple filters from T R spares so I might hand them over to the local mechanic and watch him work his magic, maybe next time I can give bits of it a crack myself.
Cheers mate
Hayley

[ozy013]

DEFENDER2.NET - View topic - Engine, Gearbox & Transfer Box Oil Change (http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8707.html)

https://youtu.be/sNFfdnfycYg

Hayley, hopefully these two links may help you if you decide to have a go yourself. I think on the first link to the UK forum they even have the maintenance schedule for the PUMA, halfway down on the first page.

Can't help you with 100,000k service cost, as I do my own. As Pat said, they really are a simple beast.
It's a good way to get to know your vehicle. My wife caught me fast asleep under the Landy, last Saturday. I'd used the kids foam play mats to make it comfortable, whilst I fiddled around with a few things. Obviously just a little too comfortable :angel:, as come dinner time, the kids told Mum that I was snoring under the car. I guess it didn't help that I'd worked that morning from 0430 till 1330.

The Puma's are very simple to work on service wise, just make sure you use quality filters, (stay away from the blue boxed, cheaper option), and use oil's that meet Landrovers specs. Plenty of threads about here in regards to that.

[Chops]

I've actually just done the oils in my car (112K) this last weekend. Essentially an easy job with the right tools. Unlike the guy in the flick, I didn't torque anything up, just did it to around what I thought was pretty close, mind you I've had a bit of practice.
The most important peice of advice I can give is get some rubber type gloves (like the surgical ones) so as to keep your hands relatively clean from diesel oil stains.

I also used Teflon tape on all my plugs to ensure I get no leaks later. My TC plug was quite loose, and I suspect this is why I had oil all over the underside of the car. :mad: So much for LR mechanics
This plug which is in behind the handbrake cable is actually quite difficult to access with spanners. Maybe they have a special tool at LR for it (?).
I haven't done the gearbox yet as I ran out of time, but looks easy enough, but as the flick showed, a little pump will be needed to refill it. I found I could do everything else with a 1 Lt bottle that the oil comes in. I did struggle somewhat with the TC fill.

To help gain confidence, maybe try doing your diffs first, they really are very easy. Even if you have a guy/girl handy (as in someone with some mechanical nouse) to maybe watch over you if your nervous. You may find that your plugs are very tight and you may need a "breaker bar" to help get them undone. This is just a length of pipe to go over your spanner handle to make it longer, which gives more leverage, thus less force needed.
Good luck, I hope we've all helped a bit.

[newhue]

Sullivan, buy the service kit as suggested and ask if you can work with the mechanic to help service the car. It's relatively simple but I can understand the anxiety if you have never done it. This would give you the confidence to do more in the future.
If the mechanic declines than google stuff, or ask on here.

I'm changing all my hoses at 150K, and to me it looks very foreign under the bonnet compared to my old holden. But google has answered my questions.

Also buying some tools, it's inevitable, but they do last if you cough up for better quality up front. Plus saves much frustration with burred and buggered nuts, sockets and so on.

You can find all the required oils on the castol oils web site. Gear box is a bit hard to source I believe but keep asking and you'll find.

[ozrob]

Penrite do the recommended oils for the Puma, Super Cheap and REPCO sell them off the shelf.
Oils are not cheap though....around $90 for the HPR 5w40 engine oil, $50 for the Gbox pro gear 75w90, x2 as you need one for the transfer case, and standard GL5 gear oil for the Differentials, 1.6 lt in each.
You also need a hand pump for the gearbox and transfer case oil fill.
Apart from that, grease the prop shafts, check the brake pad thickness and adjust the hand brake.

[PAT303]

Ozrob,buy the engine oil in 10ltre containers,it's cheaper than the 5ltre. Pat

[Chops]

Not bad advice at all Bob. Trying to get everything in bulk saves heaps of money, its just finding the money in the first place thats usually the problem :(

I used all Penrite in mine, except for the engine oil whic was Castrol, and the total was just under $165. Not bad I thought.

[sullivan]

Yeah I've seen the vid before, that threads great as well. Thanks Ian!
Definitely no chance of me falling asleep, I am yet to get to that level of comfort with my landy! I think I'm doubly scared because I barely know how an engine works and all the different oils for different sections wig me out. Reckon I just need to get my head under the thing and get it over with!

Thanks Chops, yeah gloves are a good idea, I'd have got everything else all sorted and ready to go and I'd forget something as simple as gloves no doubt. At least I'd look the part once finished!
Wouldn't trust myself without a torque wrench, will definitely invest in some good tools though thanks for the tip Jason.

Ozrob you make it all sound so simple!
I reckon I'll start with the engine oil and filter, mostly cause the vid looks easy as (famous last words).
Chops, I just found this vid on youtube for the diff and gearbox, he lost me a bit after 1:30 but if I'm just draining and refilling I should be right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_gWoUWosrY

Thanks for all your help!
I'll let you know how I get on!

[sullivan]

and this one seems good as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ5VBlONZG4