Thinking of buying a dinitrol kit and applying

[1nando]

Hi guys,

When I bought my 2013 model 110 I had a wax guard product applied to the chassis through Warrick farm Toyota. Not sure of its name but it looks like a wax coating.
Anyway 2 years down the line and I'm thinking of ordering a dinitrol car kit from amazon and applying it myself. Obviously I will gerni and steam clean the underside of the vehicle and then apply the products. It is a full system, there is a great YouTube clip detailing the process. Has anyone bought one of these kits and applied it?
I am paranoid with the thought of rust, and I intend to hang on to "Barry" (my beloved 110) for many many years to come.
Any thoughts are appreciated.

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[mickygee]

I've been looking for some dinitrol also but can't find anyone who stocks in Aus. i even emailed the dinitrol supplier for this country but they don't supply the stuff we need, (dinitrol 4941, waxy for underbody) and (dinitrol 3125, more fluid for cavities).
if anyone knows how to get some i would up for a group buy

[1nando]

I have found it on eBay UK and amazon. The postage is a little dear, but I prefer that to a rust repair bill down the track

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[Aguy]

I could be wrong but when I was looking at buying dinitrol, I found that no one would ship it to Australia. That might have changed!

You can get this stuff from Sydney,

Dynax S50 | High Protection Rust Proofing Cavity Wax (http://www.bilthamber.com/cavity-waxes/dynax-s50)
Dynax-UB | Cavity Wax for high protection Rust Proofing (http://www.bilthamber.com/cavity-waxes/dynax-ub)

Some people say it's one of the best antirust coating out there.

You can get it from here,
PPCCO - Permanent Painted Coatings of Australia - The Restoration Specialist (http://www.ppcco.com.au/bilt03.html)

I purchased a can of each and will hopefully have time to try it out soon.

[EastFreo]

Check out this link. Very useful. You might have to scroll through it but there are some great step by step instructions. DEFENDER2.NET - View topic - Corrosion Prevention Guide! (http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic10467.html)

[Blade74]

I reckon if someone decided to specialize in rust proofing cars and knew all the areas to hit on a defender there would be a fair few people pay for the services.
I'd pay for someone who knew the best way to rust proof my defender tomorrow.

[1nando]

I reckon if someone decided to specialize in rust proofing cars and knew all the areas to hit on a defender there would be a fair few people pay for the services.
I'd pay for someone who knew the best way to rust proof my defender tomorrow.

I would too.

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[cccp53]

Wurth selling some good rust proofing products , (check catalog)

Home - W?rth Australia (http://www.wurth.com.au/en/wurth_au/home_page/index_3.php)

[Pickles2]

I've looked at rustproofing too, & if I was in the UK it would be a must, but living here, & not going off road very much, maybe not so much of a problem for us. Not saying it's not a worry, but just not as bad as the U.K.....also don't know anyone in Melbourne who does this stuff, and according to Def2, there are many "secrets" when trying to PROPERLY rustproof a defender in all the "RIGHT" spots.
Also, when trying to import the rustproofing product, I believe there may be customs issues in importing this type of stuff when it's not sold in Aus?
Just my two bob's worth. Pickles.

[afb]

Looking on Defender2.net some posts compare Dinitrol to Tectyl. Tectyl is available In the Valvolene range. Supercheap and Autobarn sell the 400g aerosols and Blackwoods have 4l and 20l as well.
https://www.blackwoods.com.au/part/00824755/preventative-rust-tectyl-506-20l-501359
Cheers
Adrian

[Wheatos]

In all these rust prevention discussions, I've never seen Corrosion X mentioned, despite it being sold by Defender Tuning.

Available in 400ml aerosol or 2l liquid.

DefenderTuning :: CorrosionX (http://www.defendertuning.com.au/corrosionx?p=1)

Does anyone have any experience wih this?

[AndyG]

Downey Street Rustproofing — After Beach wash and Electronic Rustproof Professionals (http://rustproof.com.au)

Downey st in Bne are the only people I have found doing Tectyl professionally for the public, the applier is also a defender buff.

I will use them to clean after a beach frolic

[Olsey]

I spoke to Jason from Stork AWD (Dinitrol distributor here in Aus) last week, as I'm wanting to rustproof my brand new 90. He said he would need to ship a whole pallet of the stuff and that it's not financially viable due to not enough interest in rustproofing products here. I also asked Jason about importing it in and he said there's no issues there, he just doesn't want to do it as he doesn't want to try sell off a whole pallet!

I reckon if there's a enough interest here, we could put it forward to Jason and see if he can help us out. I'm happy to ask him about it if any of you want to put your interest down here.

I'm assuming the reason retailers in the UK can't ship here, is to due those products being classed as 'dangerous goods'. However, Fedex & DHL have a dangerous goods service, so I don't really know.

I'm also tempted to find out if a company like Dangerous Goods International, who specialises in transporting DGs and have offices here in Aus and UK, are able to help me out. But I would need to get someone like Rejel to sell the stuff to me first. Might have to make a phone call to the UK, as they did't reply to me email :mad:

I'll be getting my local spray painter, who does rustproofing (with sika products), to apply the Dinitrol, if I can get it!!! I'm wanting to use Dinitrol products, as it has such a good rep in the UK.

If that's not possible, I'll go for Bilt Hamber's Dynax products. Apparently, you'll need a few cans of each (4 or 5) if you want to do a whole defender. There's a thread on Defender2 where a guy stated he used 20 cans of the S50 :eek: $54 a can here in Aus!

[Pickles2]

There are all sorts of good products.
Try the Wurth website, I believe their products are sold in Aus, & they've been around for a LONG time.
However, as I've said before, one of the main "desirables" is to have someone apply the stuff who REALLY KNOWS DEFENDERS, and as a consequence is able to get the stuff in the right "nooks & crannies",...ie, unscrewing door hinge bolts to get the stuff "in".
Pickles.

[Olsey]

There are all sorts of good products.
Try the Wurth website, I believe their products are sold in Aus, & they've been around for a LONG time.
However, as I've said before, one of the main "desirables" is to have someone apply the stuff who REALLY KNOWS DEFENDERS, and as a consequence is able to get the stuff in the right "nooks & crannies",...ie, unscrewing door hinge bolts to get the stuff "in".
Pickles.

Yep, totally agree. The Corrosion Prevention Guide thread on Defender2 is an excellent source and apparently the OP, Zagato, is writing up an even more comprehensive guide, which he'll release very soon.

I wouldn't get my local guy to do it until he's reads that guide.

[DieselDan]

Been thinking about this recently too and wondering what the best method of applying any 'goo' would be.
Back in the UK, I used a waxoyl kit on my Lightweight and it came with a big hand pump type thing that was screwed onto the waxoyl tin and used to pressurise it. The application lance was built into the hand pump thingy and had a long extension probe on it for getting into the chassis rails.
Now I've been wondering if a similar thing can be made using a hand compressor garden sprayers, the sort of thing used for weedkiller? Get a 4l tin of the tectyl stuff (I've also been trying to find out if septone rust shield is similar), thin it down and then spray away. Certainly cheaper and easier than using a heap of spray cans, just not sure if the pipe work and seals in the sprayer would be up to it.

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[mickygee]

I.m keen for a group buy of Dinitrol products!!!

[Steve223]

hm I bought 8 cans of Dinitrol from eBay from memory 20$ per can + $20 postage from Melbourne. Haven't applied it yet but planing to do after Simpson trip. we also bought a Schulz gun for it which we are planing to use.

[scarry]

Downey Street Rustproofing — After Beach wash and Electronic Rustproof Professionals (http://rustproof.com.au)

Downey st in Bne are the only people I have found doing Tectyl professionally for the public, the applier is also a defender buff.

I will use them to clean after a beach frolic

The Bump Shop at Eagle Farm did my D4 with Tectyl.
Didn't need much of a clean as it was brand new.


My son and i did the Puma,we completely coated the chassis after it had a good clean.We painted it on,a bit messy,but goes on nice and thick,and hasn't needed re doing.We had the guys at the Bump Shop spray it inside the chassis as well.

[Olsey]

I've just sent an email to Jason at Stork AWD to see if they would be interested in importing the Dinitrol Rustproofing kits. I let him know that they're a few of us that are interested and also asked what would be the minimum to import to make it financially viable for them.

If I don't get a reply in a couple of days, I'll give him a phone call to follow up. Surely there must be a few of us here to fill at least half a pallet to make it worth while for them. If they're keen to help out, I'll set up a group buy.

[1nando]

I've just sent an email to Jason at Stork AWD to see if they would be interested in importing the Dinitrol Rustproofing kits. I let him know that they're a few of us that are interested and also asked what would be the minimum to import to make it financially viable for them.

If I don't get a reply in a couple of days, I'll give him a phone call to follow up. Surely there must be a few of us here to fill at least half a pallet to make it worth while for them. If they're keen to help out, I'll set up a group buy.

I'm in for this, anyone else?

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[Is Vic There]

I used waxoil in the UK which was brilliant, also use to be in the RAF and found out that PX32 was actually waxoil, everything I use to own use to get a blast! Did like the smell of the stuff, it it still for sale over there?

[Olsey]

Just an update - as I had not received a reply, I decided to call Stork AWD.

Well, Jason told me that his boss has sent a request to Dinol in Germany to find out the price for the Dinitrol rustproofing kits. They're still waiting on a reply and he has said that he'll update me once they receive the costings.

He did mention that they do expect it be a bit pricey. I didn't talk to him about costings but the price in the UK for a large kit is UKP106 and with Aus dollar about double UKP, that's about $212). Add in freight & markup and I believe a reasonable price for the kit to be $400-500. Though, I'm hoping it's cheaper but I would be happy to pay that, knowing I'm purchasing a reputable product with everything I need to do the job.

I have also contacted Zegato (Chris) on the Defender2 forum and he recommends a large kit for the D90 and an extra large for the D110. The other bit of news, which is unfortunate, is that he won't be doing the updated defender corrosion prevention guide any time soon. The good news is that when he does get time to do it, it will be in video and it won't be a half-ar$ed job. He said it will be comprehensive!

[DieselDan]

Been thinking about this recently too and wondering what the best method of applying any 'goo' would be.
Back in the UK, I used a waxoyl kit on my Lightweight and it came with a big hand pump type thing that was screwed onto the waxoyl tin and used to pressurise it. The application lance was built into the hand pump thingy and had a long extension probe on it for getting into the chassis rails.
Now I've been wondering if a similar thing can be made using a hand compressor garden sprayers, the sort of thing used for weedkiller? Get a 4l tin of the tectyl stuff (I've also been trying to find out if septone rust shield is similar), thin it down and then spray away. Certainly cheaper and easier than using a heap of spray cans, just not sure if the pipe work and seals in the sprayer would be up to it.

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Thought I'd follow up on this...
I went to Bunnings and bought a $10 garden sprayer with a long extension nozzle and 4litre can of Septone Rust Proof.
It was a relatively warm day (well, for June in Melbourne....) and I'd kept the Septone stuff in the house to keep it warm, so it didn't need much in the way of thinning. I poured it into the sprayer, pumped it up with the handle to pressurise it and then sprayed away!
I'd given the underside of the Defender a damn good clean a few days before and left it to dry. I thought I'd test it on an easily accessible spot first, so I chose the rear wheel arch as an easy to get to spot and also easy to clean up if it all goes wrong...!

So the result..... meh. The sprayer doesn't 'mist' the wax enough for it to be easily or properly applied, it tends to come out in a thin, watery arc rather than a mist. So, for exterior applications, like the wheelarches or exterior of the chassis rails, it doesn't really work well, just creates a mess.
However for inside the chassis rails, the big arc the spray creates seems to work quite well and the fact that the angle of the nozzle can be altered, coupled with the long extension piece meant that I seemed to get good coverage a decent way inside the rails. I still intend to get some spray cans with the long nozzle just to make sure I finish the job off properly!

I've got some of the septone stuff left, so I'll give the disco chassis rails a squirt. It was fun experiment and a sort-of decent means to an end, but probably not worth the bother if anyone's thinking about doing it.... :D

[EastFreo]

A while ago I stumbled on some advice about Tectyl 506 and found some in Bunnings. I haven't used it yet but it may be a bit an option. You can get in spray cans and in solution.

[bell1975]

Downey Street Rustproofing — After Beach wash and Electronic Rustproof Professionals (http://rustproof.com.au)

Downey st in Bne are the only people I have found doing Tectyl professionally for the public, the applier is also a defender buff.

I will use them to clean after a beach frolic
These guys did my D2 back in 2011.

An average job I'd say they did. Masses of overspray all over my recently clay-barred bonnet....not happy about that.

The product they used back then was not Tectyl though. Just a black waxy product that I never really knew the name of. My Dad picked the vehicle up after the service as it happens and he chatted with the bloke that did it and he mentioned to him what it was. It started with "P" IIRC (something like 'peckam' or similar?).

Whatever it was it's stood up to the fortnightly beach driving that my Disco has done on Fraser for the past 5 years very well. As you'd expect the underside of wheel arches and rear spring hangers are bare from the blasting effects of the sand. But otherwise it's still in good nick.

The inside of my chassis rails may have already had some rust before they applied their treatment I really don't know. But the rails now have bad rust in several places and the vehicle is unroadworthy.

[Chris078]

Hi guys,
for application ideas, you might find this youtube video useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDl6CDjW0KI

this is using the full dinitrol kit and has a lot of useful tips.

put me down as interested in a group buy.

[jc109]

This may have ground to a halt, but I'm interested if it ends up going anywhere.

[El Rey]

These guys did my D2 back in 2011.
Whatever it was it's stood up to the fortnightly beach driving that my Disco has done on Fraser for the past 5 years very well.
As you'd expect the underside of wheel arches and rear spring hangers are bare from the blasting effects of the sand. But otherwise it's still in good nick.
The inside of my chassis rails may have already had some rust before they applied their treatment I really don't know. But the rails now have bad rust in several places and the vehicle is unroadworthy.

Hi - sorry I'm a bit confused by this.
It's done very well for five years... but you have rust so bad it's unroadworthy. Am I missing something.

[Olsey]

At the moment it has. Unfortunately Stork AWD haven't got back to me and more unfortunately, my contract at work was not renewed and therefore I'm out and about looking for work. I have to be careful with money but if I could get a kit for the right price, I would buy it regardless.

If any more information comes up, I'll let people know.

[bell1975]

Hi - sorry I'm a bit confused by this.
It's done very well for five years... but you have rust so bad it's unroadworthy. Am I missing something.
The inside of the chassis rails on my recently sold Disco is where the rust was.

As I stated, there may have already been rust inside the rails prior to the rust prevention/rust proofing treatment being applied. I can't rule this out.

So, in all other areas that the treatment was applied it prevented the metal from being rust affected.

My next Disco will have a snake camera poked down the length of the rails prior to purchase and therefore prior to any rust prevention treatment being applied.

Make sense?

[El Rey]

The inside of the chassis rails on my recently sold Disco is where the rust was.

As I stated, there may have already been rust inside the rails prior to the rust prevention/rust proofing treatment being applied. I can't rule this out.

So, in all other areas that the treatment was applied it prevented the metal from being rust affected.

My next Disco will have a snake camera poked down the length of the rails prior to purchase and therefore prior to any rust prevention treatment being applied.

Make sense?

Got it - cheers. But you are leaving room for the possibility that there may not have been rust there either. In which case...

[bell1975]

Got it - cheers. But you are leaving room for the possibility that there may not have been rust there either. In which case...
In which case you'd best invest in a snake camera and check your chassis rails for rust on a regular basis...

[El Rey]

In which case you'd best invest in a snake camera and check your chassis rails for rust on a regular basis...

Haha! Fair call.