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splud
23rd May 2015, 01:16 PM
My wife and I are also doing the great Aussie trip and have ordered a 21ft van etc, but now we are putting in an order for the Discovery. (long story, was going for a 2016 RRS, but wheel rims are too big for the outback!)

My question is: V6 Petrol or V6 Diesel as we both like the power from the petrol, (coming from an Evoque 2ltr petrol). We test drove a the SDV6 and it just felt a bit sluggish, but haven't been able to try the V6SC.

Any suggestions would be great! :)
Thanks
TC

shanegtr
23rd May 2015, 02:10 PM
Doing the lap of honor while towing, diesel all the way;)

Slunnie
23rd May 2015, 02:13 PM
Diesel for the big trip also unless you want to pay through the nose for the trip aand maybe carry jerry cans if needed and then just enjoy the vehicle.

splud
23rd May 2015, 02:39 PM
Ha, I thought the general answers would be Diesel..

But the V6SC is such a brilliant engine, and roughly based on the specs (I know not real world especially towing a van), based on 50,000kms the petrol would cost $9600 as opposed to the diesel being $6345 and thats so long that you can find good petrol in the outback! :)

Has anyone chipped there SDV6, worth looking at or a no-go when towing?

Thanks,

Slunnie
23rd May 2015, 02:47 PM
I think you will find that is the consensus for the big trip, but it's not the be all and end all answer. The big trip is only one small part of the vehicles ownership and there is no reason why the big trip cant be done with the V6SC. In many respects, it might just be better the buy the engine you enjoy the most so that you're happy with the vehicle over those 50,000km as the vast majority of the time you wont be towing that van around the country. I also wouldn't be worried about being able to find petrol in the outback.

jonesfam
23rd May 2015, 02:56 PM
I BIG advantage of a Diesel is having all that Grunt!
Jonesfam

Boggs
23rd May 2015, 03:15 PM
Well, depends where you mean by "outback". Many of the remote communities in WA and NT only sell "opal", the un-sniffable petrol, and I'm told that it is less than brilliant for sophisticated engines like a V6SC. If you carried enough fuel to get you between major towns where you could get real fuel then it probably wouldn't be a problem. this is all heresay as I've never driven anything but an oiler in those areas. Oh yes.. stand guard over your real petrol.

Bytemrk
23rd May 2015, 05:11 PM
Another vote for the diesel, I've not driven the V6SC but from what I read it produces 250kW of power and 450Nm of torque.

I'm a little surprised at anyone describing the SDV6 as 'sluggish", I know the petrol motor produces more power (kW) than the diesel , but I think you will find that towing the van, what you want it torque.

SDV6 produces 600Nm

And as the others have said, if you venture anywhere properly remote....you wont get decent petrol, you will get diesel.

Good luck with the choice, I think you should be happy with either option really, depending on your intended destinations.

LandyAndy
23rd May 2015, 07:10 PM
Mark is on to it,power isnt what you are chasing,its torque for towing.Petrols for power,diesels for pulling.
Wait until a few of the ex landcruiser/pootrol owners chirp in on just how good these 3lt D4s are towing.
I think you felt the D4 was sluggish as its a behmoth compared to the ewok.I upgraded from a D2 TD5 wich was no slug,the D4 kills it;););););)
Even towing with the D2,it went just as well towing a load as not.Yet to fully test the D4,didnt even feel 1 tonne loads of firewood behind it.
Andrew

cripesamighty
23rd May 2015, 07:31 PM
Although it's no slouch off the line, my BIL's SDV6 D4 didn't quite compare to his recently traded in 4.0L petrol Prado for initial get up and go. He was a little disappointed at first, but you couldn't get the smile off his face after he came back from a trip away towing a quite large pop-top caravan in the D4.

To say he was impressed is a total understatement. My sister couldn't shut him up about how it felt like the caravan wasn't even there and he had to keep watching that the speed didn't creep up too much. I had several texts from her while they were on the road and it was driving her nuts! He just loves the SDV6's torque and he now doesn't take the mickey out of me for talking him into considering a Land Rover when it came time to change over vehicles....

I know a petrol Prado isn't a SCV6, but for a comparison, it's the torque you will be wanting. Good luck with whatever you choose though.

sniegy
23rd May 2015, 09:01 PM
Couple of questions.
1. How many K's did the SDV6 have on it. If only a couple of thousand, then it WILL still feel sluggish. Adaptive box is getting used to all the different drivers & the vehicle will loosen up a lot after about 5K.

2. Have you driven the V6SC? If you drive the V6SC you WILL want the Diesel, The V6SC runs out of puff up high & is very thirsty.

Cheers

carlschmid2002
23rd May 2015, 09:24 PM
Ha, I thought the general answers would be Diesel..

But the V6SC is such a brilliant engine, and roughly based on the specs (I know not real world especially towing a van), based on 50,000kms the petrol would cost $9600 as opposed to the diesel being $6345 and thats so long that you can find good petrol in the outback! :)

Has anyone chipped there SDV6, worth looking at or a no-go when towing?

Thanks,
I am not sure with the V6SC but the V8 will only drink Premium. Factor in a LR Fuel Tank or forget about getting fuel in the back of beyond.

nat_89
24th May 2015, 06:33 AM
Definitely get the diesel they are a gorgeous engine diesel does take a bit to get used if you haven't owned one before its s different feeling just lineal torque not that big power from a petrol. But towing a van only choice diesel all the way. I read a test between the diesel 200 series cruiser and a new V8 petrol Patrol the difference in fuel economy was just under 13L more per 100kms the patrol was using that's a bloody lot of fuel!! I know they are both v8s but it just shows how much difference there can be in fuel usage

splud
24th May 2015, 10:54 AM
OK. Mind made up! Diesel it is, did some more research and listened to you guys and yes the better torque and lack of good petrol in the outback wins.
Thanks
Orders going in tomorrow! :)

nat_89
24th May 2015, 02:16 PM
OK. Mind made up! Diesel it is, did some more research and listened to you guys and yes the better torque and lack of good petrol in the outback wins.
Thanks
Orders going in tomorrow! :)

Good choice they are so awesome the diesel once you get used to it!! Plus I towed 3.2t the other day sat on 108kmh and averaged 15.7l/100kms so that's pretty good in my eyes!!

jonesfam
24th May 2015, 02:26 PM
Just for the record
Opal fuel is fine for all petrol cars except those requiring Premium ULP.
Jonesfam

Disco4SE
24th May 2015, 03:39 PM
Great choice splud.
You will appreciate the relaxed towing ability & economy.


I remember my wife protesting when I bought her first turbo diesel (another brand). She had the equivalent loan car whilst having hers serviced, but in a petrol and swore there was something wrong with it, as when she accelerated from a round a bout / intersecting, it had no go!!!


Cheers, Craig

BigJon
24th May 2015, 04:12 PM
Just for the record
Opal fuel is fine for all petrol cars except those requiring Premium ULP.
Jonesfam

That wasn't the experience in Alice Springs when it was introduced.

strangy
24th May 2015, 04:20 PM
That wasn't the experience in Alice Springs when it was introduced.
X2. Disgusting slurry that reduces fuel economy, power and smoothness.
And that's the positives.
Nobody I know in Alice uses this muck in their own vehicle by choice.

haydent
18th September 2024, 11:49 PM
everyone gushing over the tdv6 at the time of the scv6 release might sing a different tune these days with all the td/sdv6 snapped cranks...
one among many threads Jaguar Land Rover recall TDV6 engined vehicles (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/265811-jaguar-land-rover-recall-tdv6-engined-vehicles-9.html)