err, hello...

[justinc]

Hi you p38a lovers. I may belong here with you at some stage soon so please be kind to me after all I've said over the years...😕☺

Jc

[Outback 1]

do you need some crow with that jc lol:p:p:p

[p38arover]

Get out! Get away. :mad:

We don't need your sort here!

Now we know the real reason why you need another mechanic in your workshop. :twisted:

[wrinklearthur]

Hey Jc, you been reading those Gumtree adds again?

[Hoges]

Ha Ha! so did someone actually manage to sneak a P38 into the workshop ...and you were smitten?:angel::D

[Eevo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUy1z-mnoIU

[rick130]

JC, what have you done ??!! :o

[justinc]

Ha ha very funny you lot! I've been fortunate enough to have received a 1996 hse in restorable rebirthable condition and will try my hand at a diesel conversion. Vehicle was essentially free and still needs work as the trans has lost all forward gears the heater is leaking and all the usual suspects are wrong with hevac etc. Still it has decent cream leather and apart from the headliner is quite ok. The trouble and strife has basically intomated that further touring will not be undertaken in any form of defender or suchlike so i have been charged with a sacred quest to make a fantastically capable yet stupidly complicated vehicle into a simpler and economical towing/ touring vehicle. Thats as far as we have got but the vehicle is here and at some point the project will begin☺

Jc

[rick130]

Any thoughts at this point as to which oil burner ?
Or will you make it reasonably simple (P38a, simple ? :angel:) and use the TD6 ?

[justinc]

Likely to be a td5 as i have one here complete rebuildable. The bellhousing from the 4hp22 will bolt to the 4hp24 so keeping it all rover will be a sensible and neat option. I am under no illusion about the difficulty of the task but willing to give it a go as the purchase of a lc100 turbo which was on the short list would be the beginning of the slide into mediocrity. .. despite that glorious FTE engine. Jc

[p38arover]

One of our members here has a BMW powered P38A.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

A P38a with aTD5?

now that will be fun getting off the line:lol2:

now imagine it with two tonnes of van on the back!:o:o:o:o
low range anyone?:angel::wasntme:

[dero]

Sit by the fire with a rum & think long & hard about this .
Roo dogs make good traveling companions by the way .

[rick130]

A P38a with aTD5?

now that will be fun getting off the line[emoji38]2:

now imagine it with two tonnes of van on the back!:o:o:o:o
low range anyone?:angel::wasntme:
Aww, c'mon Pedro.

A VNT, mild remap and decent IC and it'd have more torque than a 4.6. :D

Our maybe not, but it'd be a nice combo.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

no doubt,, on boost.;)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The bellhousing from the 4hp22 will bolt to the 4hp24 . Jc

so, The P38 is a 4.6?

actually this whole thing is good news,, we wont be so embarrased about camping next to P38:angel::angel::angel::angel:

[Chucaro]

Justin, install a water filter on the workshop and at your home, something is affecting your thinking :D

[gusthedog]

JC's new signature might read "limp home mode in a td5 powered p38 means you're up **** Creek without a paddle"....:D

[rick130]

no doubt,, on boost.;)
VNT means being always on boost :D

[Disco Muppet]

Hmmm....
Stop it jc, you're giving me ideas....
P38a on a d2 chassis with ace and full SLS....

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[gusthedog]

Hmmm....
Stop it jc, you're giving me ideas....
P38a on a d2 chassis with ace and full SLS....

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Why not just settle for a diesel D2 with leather? Surely you don't need the badge to say "Range" instead of "Land"? :wasntme:

[Disco Muppet]

Because building interesting stuff is half the fun :)

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[Eevo]

Because building interesting stuff is half the frustration :)


fixed

[Cap]

Likely to be a td5 as i have one here complete rebuildable. The bellhousing from the 4hp22 will bolt to the 4hp24 so keeping it all rover will be a sensible and neat option. I am under no illusion about the difficulty of the task but willing to give it a go as the purchase of a lc100 turbo which was on the short list would be the beginning of the slide into mediocrity. .. despite that glorious FTE engine. Jc

You, my crusty ol' invertebrate, are LOCO!!

When do you begin??? :D

[justinc]

A P38a with aTD5?

now that will be fun getting off the line:lol2:

now imagine it with two tonnes of van on the back!:o:o:o:o
low range anyone?:angel::wasntme:


Actually it is 3tons pete.... 😀

[Chucaro]

Actually it is 3tons pete.... 😀

A Ford 250 will be ideal :cool:

[TheTree]

The Trouble and Strife is obviously a person of taste and discernment :p

Steve

[p38arover]

I wish I had the energy to build up my other P38A into what I think a capable P38A tourer should be.

[DT-P38]

If it was good enough for the Queen... Then it should definitely be good for you too JC!

Enjoy the P38 Rangie experience and forget the nonsense from the jealous old luddites. In saying that, you will get challenged here and there. Plenty of info and experts around here to steer you through the minefield of non-truths and exaggerations though. It should only be an uneasy time until you get on top of the PO's outstanding maintenance and put the vehicle onto a preventative maintenance program.

Don't know if I would bother with the diesel idea to be honest. Properly set up LPG will increase your range and reduce the running costs without harming the vehicle. The write ups I have read about the factory diesels are that they were slug's.

[Disco Muppet]

'Tourer' and '4.6L on LPG' don't go in the same sentence.
Besides.
JC has his head screwed on just right, and therefore knows how to make a Td5 anything but a slug ;)
So come on JC.
Get that Td5 in, get it mapped and a nice big IC, throw a VNT on it and get some earmuffs because the V8 fanboys will be shrieking long and loud ;) :D :burnrubber:

[TheTree]

They are a complex beast and perhaps that's why the Luddites :wasntme: put **** on them, because they don't take the time to understand the complexities of these beasts.

There is plenty of expertise around and plenty of parts.

Be warned though, they are quite addictive !

Steve

[rick130]

They are a complex beast and perhaps that's why the Luddites :wasntme: put **** on them, because they don't take the time to understand the complexities of these beasts.

There is plenty of expertise around and plenty of parts.

Be warned though, they are quite addictive !

Steve

I can only cope with one complex beast in my life and I'm struggling to understand the complexities of her.
To keep the rest of my life simple I drive a Defender. :D

JC is a brave man. ;-)

[Mick_Marsh]

If it was good enough for the Queen... Then it should definitely be good for you too JC!
I thought The Queen drove a Defender.

[MR LR]

They are a complex beast and perhaps that's why the Luddites :wasntme: put **** on them, because they don't take the time to understand the complexities of these beasts.

There is plenty of expertise around and plenty of parts.

Be warned though, they are quite addictive !

Steve
Puhhhlease, the P38a is that ugly, non-performing middle child that makes its parents regret that holiday to the Greek Islands each time a school report comes back.

It was the car that should have been, between two cars that were.

But still, I want to see what kind of an animal JC can turn it into. :D

[rar110]

Wow, I'm sure it will be a very nice, comfortable, capable vehicle in the end. A definite positive from a project like this is you will know it inside out.

I'm a bit over mods and knock on dramas. I'd consider rebuilding the v8. While EAS is brilliant, one mod I would consider for a P38, from reading stuff here, is coils.

Good luck JC.

[Scouse]

Puhhhlease, the P38a is that ugly, non-performing middle child that makes its parents regret that holiday to the Greek Islands each time a school report comes back. The only people who say that are the those who have never owned one.


I used to think the same way & swore I'd never own one.

[MR LR]

The only people who say that are the those who have never owned one.


I used to think the same way & swore I'd never own one.
Couldn't do it, the sound the blinkers make traumatized me as a child :p

[loanrangie]

Couldn't do it, the sound the blinkers make traumatized me as a child :p

Maybe because you are that non-performing middle child.:p

[Disco Muppet]

Maybe because you are that non-performing middle child.:p

Doubt it, his brother drag races a v6 Commodore Ute :p

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[MR LR]

Maybe because you are that non-performing middle child.:p
If I wasn't the eldest, they'd have stopped before they got to me :p

[p38arover]

If I wasn't the eldest, they'd have stopped before they got to me :p

Ahh, so you have met yourself, Will? :p

[MR LR]

Ahh, so you have met yourself, Will? :p
It was actually a dig at my brother, but I can see where you're coming from :p :wasntme:

[TheTree]

Puhhhlease, the P38a is that ugly, non-performing middle child that makes its parents regret that holiday to the Greek Islands each time a school report comes back.

It was the car that should have been, between two cars that were.

But still, I want to see what kind of an animal JC can turn it into. :D

Interesting that a few of the guys at LR Monthly gave them poor reviews when they came out and now they drive them and appreciate them.

Besides, haven't you Luddites got other forums to annoy without coming in here and disturbing the serenity of our forum ? :angel:

Steve

[benji]

The v8 makes a perfect tourer on lpg. Weighing 3 tonne we averaged 13.7l/100k up to qld and back. With the lpg we filled up at Goondawindi, and the next fillup was in Echuca.

Have you thought about putting a 1hdfte in it.....

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[DT-P38]

Yeah, non-believers and naysayers. Back in your boxes. When you own one and belong here come back for a positive place to lurk (and learn) and have good clean, pleasant, time.

Until then, stop spoiling our good times and putting crap on our choices. It's not like we flood all over and through your usual haunts and hang it on your decision making, now is it?

[Keithy P38]

There's a 2.5td P38 for sale on carsales right now, easier than an engine conversion...

If I didn't already have two P38's id give it a shot...

Cheers
Keithy

[ozscott]

You can get LPG at reasonable prices all the way out to Central Qld...the new injected systems are amazing. A 4.6 p38a with Thor intake and ecu and injected LPG is the ultimate tourer.

Cheers

[Pedro_The_Swift]

You can get LPG at reasonable prices all the way out to Central Qld...the new injected systems are amazing. A 4.6 p38a with Thor intake and ecu and injected LPG is the ultimate tourer.

Cheers

Its close!
;)

[p38arover]

You can get LPG at reasonable prices all the way out to Central Qld..

But not in NSW. I've just done a couple of thousand km down the Echuca and back. The highest price was just north of the Murray where it was 99.9c/litre. Just over the river in Vic it was 59.9.

I didn't fuel up at 99.9, it was cheaper to run on petrol.

[Keithy P38]

You can get LPG at reasonable prices all the way out to Central Qld...the new injected systems are amazing. A 4.6 p38a with Thor intake and ecu and injected LPG is the ultimate tourer.

Cheers


I'll second that, provided LPG is available and cheap enough.

Mine is a High Compression Thor HSE with injected LPG (gas not liquid) and I've found it hard inland and in remote areas to get gas. No shortage of petrol though!

Personally I'd rather a long range petrol tank.

Cheers
Keithy

[gusthedog]

Yeah, non-believers and naysayers. Back in your boxes. When you own one and belong here come back for a positive place to lurk (and learn) and have good clean, pleasant, time.

Until then, stop spoiling our good times and putting crap on our choices. It's not like we flood all over and through your usual haunts and hang it on your decision making, now is it?

Keep your knickers on! A bit of jest and poking fun is half the reason many of us hang out on AULRO. I don't think any of the comments in this thread (other than one which I believe is in total jest) are nasty or cast nasturtiums (as my mother would say) about your precious p38's. Plenty of people hang **** on my clunky old oil burner but I couldn't give a dam. Can't we all leave in piece and harmony and still give each other a bit of **** or is that not PC enough for range rover owners? :wasntme:

[DT-P38]

Keep your knickers on! A bit of jest and poking fun is half the reason many of us hang out on AULRO. I don't think any of the comments in this thread (other than one which I believe is in total jest) are nasty or cast nasturtiums (as my mother would say) about your precious p38's. Plenty of people hang **** on my clunky old oil burner but I couldn't give a dam. Can't we all leave in piece and harmony and still give each other a bit of **** or is that not PC enough for range rover owners? :wasntme:

meh

[ozscott]

Is that American? I dont understand that word ...meh...

[gusthedog]

Is that American? I dont understand that word ...meh...

Me either. :) one word comebacks can usually be represented by a grunt though :D

[TheTree]

Maybe we are the wrong generation, though I have heard my kids use it !

From Wikipedia

Meh is an interjection used as an expression of indifference or boredom. It may also mean "be it as it may". It is often regarded as a verbal shrug of the shoulders. The use of the term "meh" shows that the speaker is apathetic, uninterested, or indifferent to the question or subject at hand. It is occasionally used as an adjective, meaning something is mediocre or unremarkable.


Steve

[DiscoMick]

Meh is pretty common amongst 25 YO yuppies, but I doubt if any own LRs.

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[p38arover]

Meh is pretty common amongst 25 YO yuppies, but I doubt if any own LRs.

You'd be surprised how many 16-yo Americans on the rangerovers.net forum have Range Rover Sports

[benji]

It's probably their parents. ...
If they did own a Range Rover they'd be saying 'merde'.



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[Keithy P38]

I was 25 when I bought my first P38 (although I don't believe I fall into the yuppy category).

[DT-P38]

Maybe we are the wrong generation, though I have heard my kids use it !

From Wikipedia

Meh is an interjection used as an expression of indifference or boredom. It may also mean "be it as it may". It is often regarded as a verbal shrug of the shoulders. The use of the term "meh" shows that the speaker is apathetic, uninterested, or indifferent to the question or subject at hand. It is occasionally used as an adjective, meaning something is mediocre or unremarkable.


Steve

I reckon that's about right!

I am actually pushing 50 but just don't think I am so old that I can't use the current vernacular here and there. Especially when it fits so nicely with the circumstance!

Maybe I could have used WHATEVER... or, YEAH SURE for the older minded crowd. :o:wasntme::D:D:D

[Disco Muppet]

u wot m8?

[DiscoMick]

You'd be surprised how many 16-yo Americans on the rangerovers.net forum have Range Rover Sports
That's interesting. Borrowed from Daddy?