Bye Bye Permagrin

[Tote]

On the weekend my D3 failed to proceed in a fairly spactacular manner, after having towed a trailer 1600KM or so over the weekend coming up a hill 30 KM from home the engine made a brief noise like it was accelerating and siezed to the point where it won't turn over. My bet woud be the mount for the timing pulley letting go. No overheating, oil still looks OK.
Tilt tray to home and pulled up the driveway in disgrace by SWMBO's jeep....
Of to the wreckers with the D3 I suspect, now for my next dilemma, PX Ranger or Defender 130...

Regards,
Tote

[eddy]

Before taking it to the wreckers,see if they have a Territory motor.Others have swapped out their blown Land Rover motors for the Ford.

[Tote]

I have thought of a new engine, depends on how the dollars add up. I have been toying with getting a replacement for a while, a station wagon dosent really suit our needs anymore but was hanging on to see what happened in the dual cab ute market in the next 12 months or so, this has kind of forced my hand.
The Disco is worth between 15 - 20K in going order, a new engine is going to cost me a minimum of $6K fitted for a second hand territory unit.
I'm thinking that it may be better to sell the disco as a project or scrap it and sell the accessories ( bullbar, long range tank, spare tyre carrier, roofrack, LLams etc) than to spend $6k and then sell it.

Regards,
Tote

[shanegtr]

Are you planning on inspecting the engine to find out what exactly stopped it?

[lpj]

.....engine made a brief noise like it was accelerating and siezed to the point where it won't turn over. My bet woud be the mount for the timing pulley letting go. No overheating, oil still looks OK.

That sucks. I feel for your dilemma having spent close to 5K doing the big-ends on my MY04 Liberty GT, only to spend another couple of K redoing the turbo 18 months and not many K's later. It has done 200k but i'll admit to "neglecting" the servicing for a while there as we had other financial priorities. it has come back to bite me though!

Should have got rid of it when i had that bad feeling a few years back.

Can i ask? How many k's had it done? What was the servicing schedule like? (not an accusation- just a question)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Sounds like the oil pump flange failure. At least it sounds the same as my failure, at least mine was under warranty. So I still have the permagrin.

On the TDV6 the oil pumps are supposed to be replaced at 150K, new design that doesn't have the same design fault.

[Tote]

The vehicle had 265,000 KM on it, oil changes with the correct flavour of Caltex Magnatec every six months regardless of KM ( it's been semi retired for the last few years after doing 40,000 km a year)
Timing belts were done at 160,000 as per the schedule but I don't think there was an awareness that the oil pump casing needed to be changed when my belts were done. I was banking on it being OK since it had done nearly 100K since the belts were done.
Still not 100% sure what to do, the problem is that a wagon doesn't really fit our requirements any more. On the upside there's no money owing on it and I have other vehicles as daily drivers so I have the luxury of considering what to do.

Regards,
Tote

[Pedro_The_Swift]

not sure whats to wait for,,
new toyota,
new triton,
nearly new izusu,
older mazda,

[Ean Austral]

not sure whats to wait for,,
new toyota,
new triton,
nearly new izusu,
older mazda,




New defender maybe.




Cheers Ean

[Tote]

Some closure......

The Disco has been sold for a mutually satisfactory price to someone who is in a better position than me to repair or replace the motor and build themselves a reasonably priced Disco 3.

No further news on the nature of the failure, the engine is definitely seized, a breaker bar on the crank will not move it, I'll update the thread if I do find out the root cause but my bet is either a main bearing due to the age of the motor or the timing pulley issue.

In the meantime I have an order in with the Canberra dealer for an Aintree green 130 cab chassis with a black roof, leather pack, traction control and cold climate pack. Not quite a Discovery but we need a vehicle that will be transport for the farm and a capable off roader as well. I was seriously considering a Ranger Wildtrack but in the end the cost of kitting up a Defender is so much less that it won out.

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Regards,
Tote

[LandyAndy]

My Bro was so close to buying the D3,he sorted prices on a Territory motor,the killer was buying it unseen and the freight to WA.
Hope the replacement suits you well.
ENJOY
Andrew

[cafe latte]

It could really be anything and it might be fixable too. I fixed a back hoe for a friend a couple of years ago, the motor was totally siezed. It turned out (we are still not sure why) it had spun a couple of big ends fortunately not damaging the crank just coating it in white metal. I managed to clean it up and the conrod and fit new big ends, I also checked the oil galleries and installed an oil pressure gauge too. It has run great ever since, so maybe the new owners will be lucky.
I would never try to turn over a siezed motor though with a breaker bar, if it wont move, I open it and dont force anything.
Chris

[vbrab]

I must be very lucky, just had my oil pump housing replaced with newer version during service at 320,000k.
Seems they missed replacing it at 180,000k, and it just happened that I was getting a lot of other work done and suggested go whole hog and do all belts and tensioners, and the housing was changed as part of that.
Now I have to hope the motor goes the expected another 100k.