Front Rotors and Pad Change/Source

[JayBee75]

Hi Guys,

have looked around and not getting the exact info i need from the sticky's and search threads.

the D4 was in for service today (done 32k) and apart from needing a new low end Turbo the Front brakes are due for change very soon.

At $1100 for rotors and pads Front only, whilst I am happy to pay, i also think it's a bit rich.

I have scoured the site however welcome peoples recommendations on where to source the parts, as obviously with the declining $$ the exchange rate is not as favorable as past. is Duckworths still a viable option, or have people found better sources locally? I had the rears done last service 28k but that was just pads and machined discs at an independent but still ended up being same price as LR.....:mad:

Just looking to get rotors and pads for the front, potentially either then giving them to LR to fit, or doing it myself.

Thanks
JB

[SBD4]

JB, I would be very surprised if you need rotors at only 32K km. I would be questioning this.

[JayBee75]

JB, I would be very surprised if you need rotors at only 32K km. I would be questioning this.

Hi Sean, This dealer is normally good hence why I travel the extra distance to use them, lets just say well known on the forum.....The car does alot of city driving and country is normally towing, I was surprised as well they are not due now but risky between next service.

I would have expected 40-50k, as has been the norm with all my cars based on the driving.

[PJR]

I am also surprised if your rotors need replacing it 32k.
I have just put my 3rd set of front and rear pads in and the first new front and rear rotors in at 107k. Price for the whole lot was $1600 at Ritters in Melbourne.
They fitted original landrover parts as well. I have been really pleased with their service.

[Hastykiwi]

Could well do, they are heavy on brakes. D3 rotor from rep are approx $250 each, and pads another $100 odd. So, $600 is for parts? Labour, hour if you were quick, maybe a bit longer. Another $100 then. $1100 does a bit high, unless its gen LR parts.

Nick

[Tombie]

DBA T2 rotors and Akebono pads.

All up around $400.00

Fit them yourself :)

[BMKal]

DBA T2 rotors and Akebono pads.

All up around $400.00

Fit them yourself :)

X2 on the Akebonos pads. I have them on all 4 wheels on mine and would never go back to OEM pads.

I had new (OEM) rotors fitted to all wheels at about 85K km's. They didn't really need replacing, and I still have the original rotors in the shed. But I wanted to start the Akebono pads with new rotors as the dealer I bought the D4 from is monitoring the performance of these pads against OEM.

As it happens, I was at the dealers in Perth earlier today, and they checked the pads and rotors while I was there. After almost 20,000 km they are all still looking like new. :D

Just got home after a 6 hour drive.

[Hoges]

From the FWIW dept: my daughter's friends have a L322 Range Rover. In for service a couple of weeks ago ...met with a $2, 300 bill...:eek: Were told this included new rotors and pads all around. They paid up and drove home in state of shock...
Brembo sell aftermarket oem spec rotors for a fraction of "genuine" LR pricing.

[JayBee75]

DBA T2 rotors and Akebono pads.

All up around $400.00

Fit them yourself :)

Thanks Tombie,

best place to source them, and does anyone have part numbers? seem alot of the searching i have done on the internet only lists discs for 2.7, not 3.0l

Cheers
JB

[Geedublya]

Recently had mine in for a service at a trusted independent and was told I needed new front rotors and pads (the current ones are 45K old).
I foolishly went and purchased both only to find that the rotors where at 28.8mm, the service limit is 27mm and new width is 30mm. There was a little bit of scoring but nothing I would call unusual.
Needless to say the rotors stayed.

Give Karcraft (http://www.karcraft.com.au/) a call and quote your VIN, they will give you a price on rotors and pads much better than the Land Rover price. My rotors (2.7 small ones) where $60 each. Land Rover OEM pads where $130 (I went with them as the TRW ones I used last time squealed for 10K).
Make sure you get the Land Rover part numbers off them as well and you can then compare with Duckworths or LR Direct.
I was in a hurry as needed to go away that weekend otherwise I would have chased up the Akebono pads.

[Tombie]

Fronts: DBA2096 - T2 (slotted) - 360mm dia ~$170.00 ea
Brakes Direct - DBA2096S DBA Street Series T2 Slotted Brake Rotor (http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/dba2096s-dba-street-series-t2-slotted-brake-rotor.html)


Or non-slotted for sub $300.00 pair
dba2096 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xdba2096.T RS0&_nkw=dba2096&_sacat=0)





Rears: DBA2095 - T2 (slotted) - 350mm dia $134.00 each
Brakes Direct - DBA2095S DBA Street Series T2 Slotted Brake Rotor (http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/dba2095s-dba-street-series-t2-slotted-brake-rotor.html)


Non-slotted ~ $180.00 pair



For the Akebono give these guys a call: Ausbrake 1/23-25 Bunney Road, Oakleigh South VIC 3167 1300 787 986 dan@ausbrake.com.au (dan@ausbrake.com.au%C2%A0)

[JayBee75]

Fronts: DBA2096 - T2 (slotted) - 360mm dia ~$170.00 ea
Brakes Direct - DBA2096S DBA Street Series T2 Slotted Brake Rotor (http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/dba2096s-dba-street-series-t2-slotted-brake-rotor.html)


Or non-slotted for sub $300.00 pair
dba2096 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xdba2096.T RS0&_nkw=dba2096&_sacat=0)


Rears: DBA2095 - T2 (slotted) - 350mm dia $134.00 each
Brakes Direct - DBA2095S DBA Street Series T2 Slotted Brake Rotor (http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/dba2095s-dba-street-series-t2-slotted-brake-rotor.html)

Non-slotted ~ $180.00 pair

For the Akebono give these guys a call: Ausbrake 1/23-25 Bunney Road, Oakleigh South VIC 3167 1300 787 986 dan@ausbrake.com.au (dan@ausbrake.com.au%C2%A0)


Thanks Tombie, will give them a call. I think the OEM brakes these days in European cars are made out of cheese. Was the same in my BMW.;)

[DanW]

Just to add to the info trail. I also just had my service at 30,000km and was told I needed new pads and rotors front and rear (~$1200 front, ~$900 rear).

This is not my first Landrover, and I have servicing included in my purchase price, so playing dumb I ask if the parts are covered under warranty or as part of the service. The dealer tells me "no, this is normal wear and tear". To which I respond "no, don't go ahead with it, I'll speak directly with Landrover about why their vehicle needs such significant parts replaced as normal wear and tear at 30,000km"

The dealer asked me to hold the line. Comes back in 15 seconds and says he just spoke with the technician, and the rotors and pads can probably wait until next service....

I said "great! any other unnecessary things on the list?"

[~Rich~]

I too love the Akebono pads, great life for both the pads & rotors.
The only downside I have found is in extremely steep terrain low range you loose some braking power. This could be because of low heat levels in discs and pads though.

[BMKal]

I too love the Akebono pads, great life for both the pads & rotors.
The only downside I have found is in extremely steep terrain low range you loose some braking power. This could be because of low heat levels in discs and pads though.

Hmmmmm ......... Don't seem to have that problem around Kalgoorlie. :p:p:p

Something to remember though if I ever want to drive over the side of an open cut mine, or down a mineshaft. :twisted:

[mijango]

I too love the Akebono pads, great life for both the pads & rotors.
The only downside I have found is in extremely steep terrain low range you loose some braking power. This could be because of low heat levels in discs and pads though.

I'm about to replace my pads front and back so this is a useful post.
So while longevity sounds better in the akebonos, how does normal braking performance compare to OEM pads?

[BMKal]

I'm about to replace my pads front and back so this is a useful post.
So while longevity sounds better in the akebonos, how does normal braking performance compare to OEM pads?

I haven't noticed any difference at all. ;)

[giskard]

I haven't noticed any difference at all. ;)

Any difference in brake dust on the wheels? Seem to remember ages ago reading here about some pads/rotors that were better from a brake dust perspective, but for the life of me, can't find the thread.

[Tombie]

That would be Akebono pads - no dust :)
And the braking is equal if not better than stock

[discojools]

Had front and rear discs changed for the first time at 112000ks on my 2.7 D4. Also pads all round for the second time I think, all OEM cost $1400 at Brighton Landrover.. Interesting how the dealers seem to have their own "individual" pricing! I do not live in city though so maybe that makes a difference.

On my previous D3 and TDV8RRS had aftermarket discs fitted.. Won't go there again...problems with vibration on both.

[JamesH]

Hi, BMKal, I'm due for my first pad change (44k). Which dealer was it? I'm using Southerns. I might ask them to use those pads. Got no complaints about the OEM but always happy to save $ when the product is as good or better.

[BMKal]

Any difference in brake dust on the wheels? Seem to remember ages ago reading here about some pads/rotors that were better from a brake dust perspective, but for the life of me, can't find the thread.

As Tombie said, no more brake dust at all since fitting the Akebono pads. :D

[BMKal]

Hi, BMKal, I'm due for my first pad change (44k). Which dealer was it? I'm using Southerns. I might ask them to use those pads. Got no complaints about the OEM but always happy to save $ when the product is as good or better.

Barbagallo's in Osborne Park James. Can't remember at a the moment the name of the service manager I've been dealing with - will look it up tomorrow and let you know.

[mijango]

They sound like a good alternative to OEMs. Only issue is they don't do the front pads for my 2010 TDV6 3.0L. When pedders in Brookvale told me this, I thought it odd so emailed Akebono and they confirmed. ;-(

[JamesH]

They sound like a good alternative to OEMs. Only issue is they don't do the front pads for my 2010 TDV6 3.0L. When pedders in Brookvale told me this, I thought it odd so emailed Akebono and they confirmed. ;-(

Just hopped onto the Akebono site and noticed no rear pads for MY12 SDV6 SE, either. The part number for the rears is EUR1099, btw.

[Tombie]

Just hopped onto the Akebono site and noticed no FRONT pads for MY12 SDV6 SE, either. The part number for the rears is EUR1099, btw.


Interestingly - Bendix (and a few others list the same pad!!!!) and the vehicle uses the same caliper...

Quite likely that the pad will move across accordingly..

94630

[JayBee75]

Fronts: DBA2096 - T2 (slotted) - 360mm dia ~$170.00 ea
Brakes Direct - DBA2096S DBA Street Series T2 Slotted Brake Rotor (http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/dba2096s-dba-street-series-t2-slotted-brake-rotor.html)


Or non-slotted for sub $300.00 pair
dba2096 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xdba2096.T RS0&_nkw=dba2096&_sacat=0)


Rears: DBA2095 - T2 (slotted) - 350mm dia $134.00 each
Brakes Direct - DBA2095S DBA Street Series T2 Slotted Brake Rotor (http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/dba2095s-dba-street-series-t2-slotted-brake-rotor.html)


Non-slotted ~ $180.00 pair



For the Akebono give these guys a call: Ausbrake 1/23-25 Bunney Road, Oakleigh South VIC 3167 1300 787 986 dan@ausbrake.com.au (dan@ausbrake.com.au%C2%A0)


Guys just a sense check, these pads and rotors are as good as OEM? no squeaking etc? are factory slotted or non slotted rotors.

thanks again, appreciate the helpful info and cost saving!!

[shanegtr]

I would expect most of the factory rotors to be non slotted

[Tombie]

Guys just a sense check, these pads and rotors are as good as OEM? no squeaking etc? are factory slotted or non slotted rotors.



thanks again, appreciate the helpful info and cost saving!!


Very very good. The slotted has nice bite. And with the akebono pads no squeaking or dust.

Factory are not slotted.

[eddomak]

Wouldn't you know it, I have just been told I need to get my front pads and rotors changed.

So, was there a conclusion on whether the Akebono's are available for a MY10 D4 TDV6 SE 3.0 and has anyone fitted them?

And I am assuming that the parts for rotors Tombie posted were for a 2.7L, so not appropriate for the 3.0L's?

Sorry for the questions, I am not used to sourcing parts myself, so don't want to order the wrong thing and sell it to one of you guys instead. :p

[eddomak]

So, was there a conclusion on whether the Akebono's are available for a MY10 D4 TDV6 SE 3.0 and has anyone fitted them?


I just called Ausbrakes and they have confirmed that Akebono's are not available.

They have offered a new product by TNF (who are more well known for rotors), which are also ceramic pads (no brake dust), and at $95 (posted) for a set of front pads. I have now ordered a set to try out and will let you know how it goes. Very good phone service from the team there.

[boardrider]

hi there,my 2 cents worth. I changed my fronts to akebono's from standard as I was getting a lot of dust.I tow a toolbox trailer weekdays and also a caravan at 3.3 tonne.The result is great stopping power and no dust to speak of under normal driving and very little with the van on.No going back for me.I will upgrade my discs to slotted like tombie's when needed.
boardrider:D

[eddomak]

There does not seem to be any stock of the DBA2096S (Slotted) rotors anywhere in Australia, including from DBA themselves, and the expected time is meant unknown and might be more than a month and a half.... :(

Stock of the non-slotted versions are also extremely low, and ETA is also unknown.

[Tombie]

There does not seem to be any stock of the DBA2096S (Slotted) rotors anywhere in Australia, including from DBA themselves, and the expected time is meant unknown and might be more than a month and a half.... :(



Stock of the non-slotted versions are also extremely low, and ETA is also unknown.


If you're desperate try eBay there's some away sellers that may have stock.

[eddomak]

If you're desperate try eBay there's some away sellers that may have stock.

Thanks Tombie - I have messaged all the eBay sellers and called all the places with Google results already. Same story from lots of them- "DBA is only showing 2 (non-slotted) available in Perth...". So I then started asking if they had shelf stock or their own warehouse to save them asking DBA again.

At the moment I am likely to go with slotted TNF rotors for $145ea.

[Tombie]

I just called Ausbrakes and they have confirmed that Akebono's are not available.

They have offered a new product by TNF (who are more well known for rotors), which are also ceramic pads (no brake dust), and at $95 (posted) for a set of front pads. I have now ordered a set to try out and will let you know how it goes. Very good phone service from the team there.

Ironic isnt it...

Akebono say no front pads for 3.0L

Yet the pads are identical from every measurement I've seen...

[josh.huber]

I have akebono pads on my 3.0l can't say they are dust free or squeak free though. Low speed noise is there. Rda are a better option for rotors now. I have dba on mine and they are great but are not in stock they machine the slots in to order that's there standard protocol now. Best price is an auto parts store in Gulgong nsw can't remember there name but very cheap.use google. I get on great with the owner of the local brake shop and asked why they have Rda he said they used to move so much dba but they had a cracked up set of slotted and drilled discs and dba refused warranty so they sent there stock back and have been Rda since with no complaint.

it's always five o clock somewhere drink beer

[josh.huber]

Brakes direct sold me the pads and sensors for mine.

it's always five o clock somewhere

[josh.huber]

There does not seem to be any stock of the DBA2096S (Slotted) rotors anywhere in Australia, including from DBA themselves, and the expected time is meant unknown and might be more than a month and a half.... :(

Stock of the non-slotted versions are also extremely low, and ETA is also unknown.

Two weeks to slot

it's always five o clock somewhere

[ADMIRAL]

I have akebono pads on my 3.0l can't say they are dust free or squeak free though. Low speed noise is there. Rda are a better option for rotors now. I have dba on mine and they are great but are not in stock they machine the slots in to order that's there standard protocol now. Best price is an auto parts store in Gulgong nsw can't remember there name but very cheap.use google. I get on great with the owner of the local brake shop and asked why they have Rda he said they used to move so much dba but they had a cracked up set of slotted and drilled discs and dba refused warranty so they sent there stock back and have been Rda since with no complaint.

it's always five o clock somewhere drink beer

Can you advise the part number for the Akebono pads you have on the front of your 3 litre. ( as they don't have a listing even they are aware of )

[Tombie]

RDA was a break away employee from DBA.
They don't have the same cooking capacity as the DBA.

And your brake store should read on the slotted and drilled rotors. If used for track will crack and warranty is not offered..

An entire shop returning stock and changing screams of BS.... DBA don't usually supply on consignment - so the goods would be owner/paid for... RDA did have better margins which is a more viable reason....

Their slotting is quite different to the T2 as well.

[shanegtr]

RDA was a break away employee from DBA.
They don't have the same cooking capacity as the DBA.

And your brake store should read on the slotted and drilled rotors. If used for track will crack and warranty is not offered..

An entire shop returning stock and changing screams of BS.... DBA don't usually supply on consignment - so the goods would be owner/paid for... RDA did have better margins which is a more viable reason....

Their slotting is quite different to the T2 as well.

You don't need to use cross drilled rotors on the track for them to crack either, they are quite capable of that with street use:)

[Tombie]

You don't need to use cross drilled rotors on the track for them to crack either, they are quite capable of that with street use:)

True - we call that "spirited" driving :cool:

[josh.huber]

Can you advise the part number for the Akebono pads you have on the front of your 3 litre. ( as they don't have a listing even they are aware of )

No sorry put them on ages ago. Had no trouble but just rang brakes direct and bolted then up

it's always five o clock somewhere

[eddomak]

This is harder than I thought, and way harder than it should have been...

Order from Vendor 1 - No Akebono, but TNF ordered. Turns out (at the mechanic's with everything apart) that it is the wrong one (one for Brembo calipers?). Only new rotors installed. Vendor 1 agrees to refund and provide postage bag.

Order Remsa from Vendor 2 - ask them to double check it is correct, and assure it is. It arrives and sure enough different to the TNFs, but when I check against picture from Britparts it is for the 2.7, not for the 3.0! Call up Vendor 2, and they double check. "Oops." To their credit they platinum ship it to the mechanic who I had booked in for this morning and absorb the price difference, and it arrives just in time... BUT no replacement sensor.

So off I go to LR dealer to buy the sensor and whilst there double check the pads are the same shape/size as the OEM ones. Appointment to replace pads is now booked in for 1.5 weeks away.

Moral of the story - try and check everything, because the "experts" can't seem to get it right despite supplying exact make, model, MY, EXACT variant, and warning them to be sure.

Yes, the vendors have done the right things in rectifying things, but it still left me out of pocket for another set of labour charges, and a whole lot of running around and calls.

[josh.huber]

Hey what is the thickness of the front pads when new, mine are looking lower then I expected already, which is better then rotor wear.

it's always five o clock somewhere