New Puma engine Defender power??

[cafe latte]

It is 90kw and 360nm right?
Not according to a Defender owners handbook supplement page.
It says Diesel engine (150)
Power output kW(PS) 110(150) at 3250rpm
Maximum torque Nm 400 at 2000rpm
Is this correct, have Land Rover really increased the power of the new Defenders?
Chris

[Pickles2]

Interesting,..that would be the new "Celebration Edition" specs, but I don't think those specs apply to "ordinary" Defenders, unless you got a "special" one!!
Still 90KW & 360Nm AFAIK.
Pickles.

[CS78]

I can confirm that I have the same page as I picked mine up today, definetly a bonus!

[Is Vic There]

I can confirm that I have the same page as I picked mine up today, definetly a bonus!

What did you pick up?

[CS78]

Vic

Silver 110 with black pack from Austral

[cafe latte]

Hmm I wonder if Land Rover have put the revised spec sheet by accident for all new Defenders instead of just the special editions? The other possibility is if these Defenders really do have 150 Hp..
I hope so :D Does anyone know for sure?
Chris

[Is Vic There]

Vic

Silver 110 with black pack from Austral


Did you deal with Lee? What are your thoughts on him?


He emailed me on Wednesday confirming that the Australian version will not be coming out with the 150 engine!


Just bought a Holden ute for work and must say that every car salesman have been totally useless, lack of knowledge on specification and just don't get back to you! I bought the Holden not because its the best ute or I got the best deal, I bought because the salesman returned my calls and new his stuff!

[cafe latte]

Did you deal with Lee? What are your thoughts on him?


He emailed me on Wednesday confirming that the Australian version will not be coming out with the 150 engine!


Just bought a Holden ute for work and must say that every car salesman have been totally useless, lack of knowledge on specification and just don't get back to you! I bought the Holden not because its the best ute or I got the best deal, I bought because the salesman returned my calls and new his stuff!

Are you sure, my engine number starts with 150?
Chris

[Pickles2]

I would suggest that there is no way any "ordinary" LandRover will have the 150HP engine, which is only fitted to "some" 90 models of the Celebration Editions, (Adventure & Autobiography) is it not?
Pickles.

[AndyG]

I wonder if the VIN number would reveal any secrets if punched into the decoder.

Land Rover VIN decoder - Lookup and check Land Rover VIN number and get options and specs for free. Search Land Rover history, price and car loans. (http://www.vindecoderz.com/EN/Land%20Rover)

2.2L 16V TC I4 DSL PUMA

A variation should be listed in the minor features

[cccp53]

Hi Andy,
I got some interesting decoding of my VIN:confused:

[AndyG]

Yeah i got the same, obviously a LR glitch, what about lower down

[cafe latte]

I can confirm that I have the same page as I picked mine up today, definetly a bonus!

What does your engine number start with?
Chris

[GypsySamuraiAnt]

For some reason my MY15 feels a lot perkier than the MY14 I test drove at the dealership.

Could just be a maximized tune in the new Defender but still have the same peak power figures?

[loneranger]

For some reason my MY15 feels a lot perkier than the MY14 I test drove at the dealership.

Could just be a maximized tune in the new Defender but still have the same peak power figures?

Were they both the same ie 110 or 90? We've got one of each the 110 is a lot slower and steadier and the 90 is a lot nippier and feels faster.

[GypsySamuraiAnt]

They were both 110's and I remember that I really had to get stuck into the demo whereas I find I'm not having to rev the new truck much at all when going through the gears to get up to speed.

Cheers

[Landi]

Just looked on the land rover website. In the section describing the celebration editions, it mentions the power upgrade ONLY with reference to the autobiography edition, which would rule out AUS deliveries I'm guessing

[Pickles2]

Just looked on the land rover website. In the section describing the celebration editions, it mentions the power upgrade ONLY with reference to the autobiography edition, which would rule out AUS deliveries I'm guessing
The 150HP upgrade is ONLY fitted to 90 editions, of the Adventure, and of course the Autobiography which only comes as a 90.....as I said in Post 9 of this thread..
Pickles.

[Is Vic There]

The 150HP upgrade is ONLY fitted to 90 editions, of the Adventure, and of course the Autobiography which only comes as a 90.....as I said in Post 9 of this thread..
Pickles.




Not according to Austral Land Rover in Brisbane, no engine upgrade for Australian delivered cars.


Hope there wrong!

[Pickles2]

Not according to Austral Land Rover in Brisbane, no engine upgrade for Australian delivered cars.


Hope there wrong!
What??!!.....You are saying no 150HP?...for ANY Celebration Editions,....I did not know that. Of course, in Aus, it only applies to the Adventure 90 anyway, but if what you say is true, some buyers are going to be quite unhappy!
Pickles.

[Is Vic There]

What??!!.....You are saying no 150HP?...for ANY Celebration Editions,....I did not know that. Of course, in Aus, it only applies to the Adventure 90 anyway, but if what you say is true, some buyers are going to be quite unhappy!
Pickles.


That's what the salesman told me, but I don't think he knows much anyway!

[CS78]

Did you deal with Lee? What are your thoughts on him?


He emailed me on Wednesday confirming that the Australian version will not be coming out with the 150 engine!


Just bought a Holden ute for work and must say that every car salesman have been totally useless, lack of knowledge on specification and just don't get back to you! I bought the Holden not because its the best ute or I got the best deal, I bought because the salesman returned my calls and new his stuff!

I cannot complain about my dealings with him, happy with the service.

[CS78]

What does your engine number start with?
Chris

My engine number starts with 150

Christo

[cafe latte]

My engine number starts with 150

Christo

So does mine what does everyone else's number start with? I wonder if a 150 engine (hp) starts with 150..
Chris

[filcar]

So does mine what does everyone else's number start with? I wonder if a 150 engine (hp) starts with 150..
Chris
I think it is the same engine, just with a remap to provide more grunt

[GypsySamuraiAnt]

Mine starts with 150 also :)

[cafe latte]

I think it is the same engine, just with a remap to provide more grunt

True, but the higher powered engines are called (Land Rover distinction) the 150 which is why I asked. My engine number starts with 150 (ie 150hp) so I wondered.
Chris

[newhue]

I think you will find its just 150 by coincidence or year of manufacture. My 2010 starts with 100, and it had 90KW until mapped up to 122Kw. I think 170KW is as good as it gets, and that is race spec "it could blow" any moment type of tune. I doubt very much if a standard 2.2 from LR would have 150KW out of the box. Nice, but I think your dreaming. However I'm no LR insider, so happy to be wrong.

[filcar]

I think you will find its just 150 by coincidance. My 2010 starts with 100, and it had 90KW until mapped up to 122Kw. I think 170KW is as good as it gets, and that is race spec "it could blow" any moment type of tune. I doubt very much if a standard 2.2 from LR would have 150KW out of the box. Nice, but I think your dreaming. However I'm no LR insider, so happy to be wrong.
Agee with the coincidence theory, my 2012 engine number starts with 111, and we are talking horse power not kilowatts ;)

[cccp53]

Engine number starting with the date of manufacturing (say 150511 is 2015/05/11),
Code of the country manufacturing, and engine type.

[cafe latte]

Reason I asked is the engine type at the top of the spec sheet said 150.
Also of note on this forum some is offering tuning to 190hp so 150 seems not that high for the engine it seems. When my warranty is finished it is something to consider.
Other question how do we find out if the spec sheet isa mistake?
Chris

[newhue]

But then if 122Kw = 163 horses. Perhaps if 150 horses = 111.9 Kw, it may be possible LR are up for it. It would be just a matter of a different tune. But do tend to think if that's their swan song figure then I cant see them doing it for all the common vehicles.

[newhue]

Reason I asked is the engine type at the top of the spec sheet said 150.
Also of note on this forum some is offering tuning to 190hp so 150 seems not that high for the engine it seems. When my warranty is finished it is something to consider.
Other question how do we find out if the spec sheet isa mistake?
Chris


I'd just ring LR assist and ask them to clarify. If the dealer and the printed matter clash, head office should be able to clarify.

Regarding tuning, I'd just go with someone with a long reputable reputation with lots of good reviews.

[Tombie]

LR literature for the celebration editions clearly states ONLY the Autobiography gets the 150 tune

[Tombie]

With tuning the BAS deal includes a new computer so *if* one was to have it done - one could easily switch to standard for a visit to the dealer [emoji3]

[Pickles2]

LR literature for the celebration editions clearly states ONLY the Autobiography gets the 150 tune
I thought that the Adventure 90 also got the 150HP engine.
Pickles.