Puma oil top up

[Jeff]

Does anyone know what engine oil 2.2 Pumas come with? I need maybe a litre for a top up after 3500 km. I did a search but came up with lots of other stuff.

Jeff

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[Beery]

Does anyone know what engine oil 2.2 Pumas come with? I need maybe a litre for a top up after 3500 km. I did a search but came up with lots of other stuff.

Jeff

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The correct oil for Australian, non-DPF 2.2 puma's as specified by Land Rover is Castrol Edge Professional A5, 5w30. Catalogue number 3377780. The A5 spec is important
The smallest drums it comes in are 20L.

For a small top up, Id ask the dealer. Or if that fails you should be able to get away with just Castrol Edge 'Diesel' 5w30 (not A5 spec but fine for a top up)

Cheers
Tom

[Grappler]

I like to use Total Quartz 9000 Future NFC A5W-30
It satisfies the Ford WSS/M2C913 B/C requirement for non DPF

Fraction of the cost of the Castrol product

[cafe latte]

I like to use Total Quartz 9000 Future NFC A5W-30
It satisfies the Ford WSS/M2C913 B/C requirement for non DPF

Fraction of the cost of the Castrol product

I just bought my new Puma 2.2, so this is something I need to know too. What is the difference between the two oils?
Cheers
Chris

[Beery]

I like to use Total Quartz 9000 Future NFC A5W-30
It satisfies the Ford WSS/M2C913 B/C requirement for non DPF

Fraction of the cost of the Castrol product

Fraction of the cost? Im only paying about $11/litre for the castrol stuff, pretty good price I thought!

[Tombie]

Go to a FORD dealer... Buy a litre bottle :cool:

[Grappler]

Fraction of the cost? Im only paying about $11/litre for the castrol stuff, pretty good price I thought!

I paid about $450 for a 20l drum. That was a while ago as I wanted to use the LR Castrol oil for intermediate service for warranty reasons. Ive now switched to Total which was $6.50 a liter in 5 litre packs, last time I bought. The fraction is about a 1/2 what you are paying or about 1/4 of what I used to pay for Castrol equivalent

[Tombie]

This gear works ok too.

SynPower FE 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/SynPower FE 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil)

Available from Supercheap

[Tombie]

I need maybe a litre for a top up after 3500 km. I did a search but came up with lots of other stuff.

Jeff

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At that distance - I'd be going to a Dealer... Thats not good...

Are you babying the thing?

[scarry]

This gear works ok too.

SynPower FE 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/SynPower FE 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil)

Available from Supercheap

That also suits 2.7 D4,and 2.4 Puma.

Must have no DPF.

[Jeff]

At that distance - I'd be going to a Dealer... Thats not good...

Are you babying the thing?


I am wanting a litre as you usually can't get less. The level is a third down from maximum and will top up as needed, the engine doesn't NEED a litre :D. As for babying it, it normally does short trips or long drives pulling a 1200kg trailer. So probably the worst of both worlds.

Jeff

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[Tombie]

In that case Jeff - dealer or go to a ford dealer they sell it in 1litre bottles

[newhue]

yakking to Castrol as I need 1lt to add to some superseded SLX Professional for the next change.

It is true the correct oil for Australian, non-DPF 2.2 or 2.4 puma's as specified by Land Rover is Castrol Edge Professional A5, 5w30. Catalogue number 3377780. The A5 spec is important. The smallest drums it comes in are 20L. Cost about $220 plus, of about $12Lt

However for top up in 1lt quantity, Castrol Edge A3B4 5w30. Catalogue number 3388428. Commonly found at Repco, Supacheap, Auto Barn and so on. For around $25 plus

I was advised the A3B4 is fine for top ups, but use the Professional A5 for the change. I guess if you have the bottle, decant some Professional A5 as top up.

[ozrob]

I use Penrite HPR 5w-40 diesel
Availabe at REPCO and Super Cheap.
About $90 for 5 liters.

Penrite Australia - NetLube (http://www.datateck.com.au/Lube/PenriteAus/)
and do a search for Land Rover under Commercial Vehicles in the drop down list.

[4wheeler]

I recently purchased some Penrite synthetic oil for my 2013 DPF fitted (unfortunately)Defender. I was caught out by the fact that the dealers don't sell engine oil (what a joke) as a spare part (nor diff, gearbox, etc.) so had to get the right oil for emergencies. DPF oil for Defender is not easy to find.
Repco said they had the appropriate oil on special 30-40% off and so it cost me $70.00 for 5 litres which I thought was O.K. On my trip I stopped at Auto Pro in Cobar NSW and they had the same oil (not on special) for $50.00. Shop around!


I cannot believe that my local dealer will not sell top up or larger volumes of oils for maintenance purposes. It is a commercial vehicle for goodness sake! It is ridiculous that these specialised oils are not sold by the dealers. You would be lucky to find them in the bush.


4Wheeler

[spudfan]

With DPF Total Quartz INEO 0W-30
Without DPF Quartz 9000 Future 5W-30
You can check out the Total Lub Advisor Lub Advisor - Total UK (http://www.total.co.uk/lubricants-automotive/automotive/lub-advisor.html)
Even if you don't use Total or cannot get Total products you can use this as a guide and get something else to the same specs.
My 2008 was fully "Totaled" i.e. engine, gearbox, diffs etc. I found it to be very satisfactory and would recommend Total oils.

[MrLandy]

I recently purchased some Penrite synthetic oil for my 2013 DPF fitted (unfortunately)Defender. I was caught out by the fact that the dealers don't sell engine oil (what a joke) as a spare part (nor diff, gearbox, etc.) so had to get the right oil for emergencies. DPF oil for Defender is not easy to find.

I cannot believe that my local dealer will not sell top up or larger volumes of oils for maintenance purposes. It is a commercial vehicle for goodness sake! It is ridiculous that these specialised oils are not sold by the dealers. You would be lucky to find them in the bush

Well said 4wheeler. It's just another example demonstrating that Land Rover have become entirely focussed on the urban image of being bush capable, rather than supporting their customers who actually spend their time using their vehicles in remote places. The back to dealer for all servicing strategy is effectively holding the customer to ransom, when service agents are so few and far between. And then even when a customer wants do do the right thing and keep the correct spare oil for bush trips and the dealer won't sell it to the customer! Well that's bordering on blackmail!

By the way, which 2.2 Defenders don't have DPF?

[ozy013]

Some of the dealers here in Melbourne will sell the oils, problem is the mark up they put on it.
They buy in bulk for engine and diff, 200 ltr drum's, so you have to bring your own container, but they will sell it to you by the litre. I haven't seen the BOT328 or transfer case oils in such large quantities. They have the BOT328 in litre containers, and generally transfer case comes in 20 litres.

I bought my gearbox oil from rovercraft, $63.24 per litre. The dealer wanted $99.

Thanks spudfan, I too would also highly recommend Total oils especially for the engine. Total Quartz 9000 Future NFC 5w30 (Ford WSSM2C913-C backwards compatible with WSSM2C913-B ). $67.20 for 5 litres from the guys at Ballarat Bolts and Fastners. There is a Total supplier in Port Melbourne, just can't remember who at the moment.

[Beery]

By the way, which 2.2 Defenders don't have DPF?

Australian Defenders don't have DPF's. But they do have the catalytic converter

[4wheeler]

Beery,
I have been stuffing around looking up DPF info this afternoon and before coming back to this thread and your post, I found the thread from 18 months ago discussing DPFs on 2.2's including some photos. Assuming that this information is correct, from what I can work out from that information (October 2013) is that mine does not have a DPF as there are no wires exiting the large plug on the top of the exhaust assembly. This means that my owner manual and those on the Land Rover Topix site are wrong as they have sections relating to DPF in the manuals. I therefore thought mine had one. I am now just so much happier knowing I don't have to worry about it. That explains why I have not seen the warning lights on the dash related to the DPF!

I suppose if any owners have had the DPF indicator light come up on that dash then that complicates matters big time. If nobody reports a dash light then we can probably assume they don't have them.

I had my Defender serviced (2 year) Friday and asked the service supervisor about them and if 2015 models had them or not based on the fact I thought mine had one. He wasn't 100% sure so he asked his more experience supervisor. I heard his supervisor say to him that he didn't think any Defenders them. The supervisor I was dealing with returned and said 2015 don't have them (but he did not say mine did not have one).

Oil pump was replaced as part of the service action related to some faulty pumps. Dealer did a good job.

Assuming all this information is correct, I can now use the more freely available synthetic oils rather than the DPF specific in my Defender.

4Wheeler