Discos any good in sand??

[goingbush]

just came across these pics whilst researching Fowlers Bay


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/06/509.jpg

yanks to the rescue. How indignant ,

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/06/510.jpg

[matti4556]

Disco is great in sand - he wasn't!

[lpj]

They are awesome is sand- if you know what your doing!!

[tact]

only if they have tall skinny tyres... (tm)

:p

[DiscoMick]

His tyres appear to be low profile, so no good in sand because they won't extend the tread much when aired down.

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[cripesamighty]

Did he turn off the DSC? If not, down you go. Have had no problems with a D4 in sand, running 19's.

[shanegtr]

I've only had my disco on sand once, I felt my old 80 series cruiser floated over the soft stuff better. But then again the 80 is a bit lighter and had slightly larger diameter tyres so that would have helped, but the discos extra power and auto more than make up for its short commings (my old 80 was manual and a 1HZ engine)

[Graeme]

Its fitted with 17" LR rims anyway.

[irondoc]

Went to Fraser Island recently in my 2011 2.7 D4. Had no problems. In fact, it was the usual situation - everyone seemed to be driving the tracks at breakneck speed, whereas the disco just crawled over everything easily.....

[Hastykiwi]

Looks like seaweedy patch. That may have contributed. Generally the D3 is fine, but have noted you need to pick yr setup, DSC/TR/Gear, etc or you can go pear shaped. Most often for me, this has been with camper trailer on the back. Car on its own seems to be the usual LR weapon on sand.

cheers
Nick

[AnD3rew]

Anyone can stuff up and get bogged. Cant speak for the D4, but the D3 is not the best vehicle I have ever driven on sand, but it is far from the worst and I have never bogged mine. Use the Sand mode, turn DSC off and air down your tyres (i usually start at about 24psi and see how I go from there) keep your speed steady and your momentum up, and with a bit of nouse you will be fine.

Ive done plenty of beach work and some desert work and no problems.

I once drove up and down Big Red in circles around an arrogant #$%@ in a lifted and fully modded patrol who was being a complete W@#$$r earlier in the day. When he got bogged halfway up I couldnt help myself. I didnt help him either,:twisted:,although I did pull a Cruiser with camper over the top a few minutes later.

[Tombie]

I've only had my disco on sand once, I felt my old 80 series cruiser floated over the soft stuff better. But then again the 80 is a bit lighter and had slightly larger diameter tyres so that would have helped, but the discos extra power and auto more than make up for its short commings (my old 80 was manual and a 1HZ engine)


80 series with Winch Bar, Draws and 100l of fuel is close to 2800kg...

[Bandi1950]

Mine is fitted with 19" rims and does struggle in soft sand even at 12psi. Just need to use the power and momentum as there is not a lot of flotation with the 19" tyres. It is still very capable and with 18" rims I think it would be awesome in the sand. At 10 - 12 psi there is almost no sidewall so tyres and rims are exposed to damage.

[Glynhouse]

My 80 series and D3 weigh about the same in the form that I run them, the 80 on 275/16's and the D3 on 265/17,s.
There is no comparison in tricky soft sand, as has been said the 80 seems to float over it and the D3 always digs.
We have a couple of miles of soft sandy river bed we use, complete with bends and steep sand banks, the D3 has a lot more power but is not in the race - irrespective of tyre pressure.
And I doubt that weight has much to do with it, my petrol 80 looses most Hilux's on the same track, and speed does not come into it either.

DD

[scarry]

One of my brothers had a 4 door 3.5l RR classic.
Now that thing floated over the sand,not much could keep up with it in it's day.
It was basically stock,apart from a set of wider rims.

As for my D4,the jury is still out.

With the D2,never had to dig it out ever,diff lock in,high or low,no worries.

With the D4,to many things to remember,DSC off,height ok?,sand mode,high or low?And these settings reset which at times can be a PITA:(.

And yes i have it very badly bogged,but it does then raise up a little higher so the long handled shovel gets under easy.:)

[Nomad9]

Hi There,
One good thing he can walk straight into the vehicle, doesn't have to step up at all.
I found mine wallowed a bit with 17's at 15 psi, DSC off, LR tank, drawers (full of stuff I'll never need), fridge, dual wheel carrier, two wheels and a hi-lift jack attached.

Call for MAXTRAX..................:)

[Meccles]

Just recently back from Fraser, with RRS. On 20"s with Cooper zeon LTZ 275/45. Went with mate with 79 CJ jeep, on 35"s/lockers/304 V8. Went everywhere he did no issue. Actually on track from Orchid Beach over to Sandy Cape, came across stuck 200 series, and very stuck ST Patrol. After they were snatched out walked straight through where they had been, no issue. 20 Psi in tires. Very impressed as were all onlookers. I reckon with GOE 18"s it would be even more capable. But, as noted, used GOE rods, and every time switched DSC off. Used all terrrain response settings as appropriate. You really do need to know how to use all tricky bits in cars to get best out of them, imo

[Meccles]

Pics on Teewah Beach just heading up. Note I run same rims on trailer, this is fitted with 2nd hand front disco 3 hubs plus adaptors.

[ozscott]

It's good to see some truth about tyres on here from people who had driven high and low profile set ups. For me the differences get obvious when towing heavy loads in deep powdery sand where you are required at times to come to a stop and move off again...then you really know the benefit of high profile tyres for off road use.

Cheers

[the_preacher1973]

It's good to see some truth about tyres on here from people who had driven high and low profile set ups. For me the differences get obvious when towing heavy loads in deep powdery sand where you are required at times to come to a stop and move off again...then you really know the benefit of high profile tyres for off road use.

Cheers

In those circumstances I usually back up in my own wheel tracks a way before moving forward again.

But yes, low profile tyres require a lot more management than 235/85/R16's.

[ozscott]

me too mate. but sometimes the sand it so powdery it doesnt help a lot. Cant beat heaps of black stuff. CHEERS

[vbrab]

Frequently find that my D3 (runs 18") has difficulties in sand where, the lighter Hi-luxes, Prados and Pajeros, and other assorted similar just go where they please. My 100 series did better than my D3 in sand.
Let tyres down to 20psi and carry extraction boards and a shovel if you are going in soft sand.

[AnD3rew]

Frequently find that my D3 (runs 18") has difficulties in sand where, the lighter Hi-luxes, Prados and Pajeros, and other assorted similar just go where they please. My 100 series did better than my D3 in sand.
Let tyres down to 20psi and carry extraction boards and a shovel if you are going in soft sand.

Do you turn the DSC off and use sand mode?

[Meccles]

Hmm I found my RRS on 20"s was better than my 100 series. Which while good I got it stuck on its belly a few times. Not much difference in weight either local weighbridge at tip shows 2650 for RRS and used to show about 2500 for 100 (a 4.5 petrol 2001 solid axle).

[scarry]

Frequently find that my D3 (runs 18") has difficulties in sand where, the lighter Hi-luxes, Prados and Pajeros, and other assorted similar just go where they please. My 100 series did better than my D3 in sand.
Let tyres down to 20psi and carry extraction boards and a shovel if you are going in soft sand.

Have you tried the tyre pressures a bit lower?

A few pounds makes a huge difference.

Another thing is the tyre gauge you are using may not be accurate.I recently checked a few tyre pressure gauges against a calibrated gauge we have,NATA standard and all of them were out,some by over two PSI.

[discotwinturbo]

One of our steepest dunes in WA, Callcup, had to go to 10 on the factory 19's during an Easter trip (so extra soft), but in GOE rims 14 is fine.

Recommended pressure for this dune by locals, and not the weekend warriors, is 10.

Brett....

[ozscott]

I have frequently driven slowly (to rub it in) past stuck 100 series and have towed a few out of sand. My take on it was that the IFS on the models above the base poverty pack, big front diff - the arms hung down a lot on them like graders - and big fat weight meant they were not ideal for soft sand. I recall stopping beside a stuck 100 at the Indian Head Fraser bypasss going south one trip. I couldnt go forward because of a well stuck GU Ute with 33 in tyres and one up with nothing in the tray. My mate in d2a v8 manual stopped behind me. Mine was the same but D2. The 100 had its tyres down. You should have heard and seen the cheers and salutes from a dozen Brit backpackers on the dune nearby when we both selected 2nd low and just easily drove off in the deep stuff straight past the 100 and straight through the mess left by the GU that had just been snatched back to the hard sand with 2 snatch straps tied together. I still have it on analogue video somewhere. Priceless!

[SBD4]

I have frequently driven slowly (to rub it in) past stuck 100 series and have towed a few out of sand. My take on it was that the IFS on the models above the base poverty pack, big front diff - the arms hung down a lot on them like graders - and big fat weight meant they were not ideal for soft sand. I recall stopping beside a stuck 100 at the Indian Head Fraser bypasss going south one trip. I couldnt go forward because of a well stuck GU Ute with 33 in tyres and one up with nothing in the tray. My mate in d2a v8 manual stopped behind me. Mine was the same but D2. The 100 had its tyres down. You should have heard and seen the cheers and salutes from a dozen Brit backpackers on the dune nearby when we both selected 2nd low and just easily drove off in the deep stuff straight past the 100 and straight through the mess left by the GU that had just been snatched back to the hard sand with 2 snatch straps tied together. I still have it on analogue video somewhere. Priceless!

It'd be great to see that!

[Meccles]

An awful lot comes down to driver/knowledge. We came across stuck D4 from Double Island Pt to Rainbow beach, stopping traffic both ways. He was still at road pressure in tires, he didn't know where the recovery point was (was trying to hook snatch strap to lower arms), had DSC on, was in Normal for terrain response, etc. Gave the car no chance at all. And, was abusing it for being stuck. This was about 12 months ago, that track is now all gravel/graded so is very easy :( which we find pretty boring now

[LRD414]

It'd be great to see that!


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[ozscott]

I will have to see if i can get it from tape to computer. Cheers