2015 TDV6 wheel PCD

[Bush_TM]

Hi guys,

I am in the process of specing out a trailer to accompany the new disco on camping trips. Ideally, I would like to have the ability to swap tyres between the camper/car and the manufacturer has asked what the PCD is for the RL wheels.

Does anyone happen to know what it is? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything...

Cheers!
Wayne

[Ean Austral]

Hi guys,

I am in the process of specing out a trailer to accompany the new disco on camping trips. Ideally, I would like to have the ability to swap tyres between the camper/car and the manufacturer has asked what the PCD is for the RL wheels.

Does anyone happen to know what it is? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything...

Cheers!
Wayne


Unless its changed, 5 x 120 PCD on D3/D4. Not sure about the 2015 model but cant see why it would change.


Remember landrover use 14mm x 1.5 wheel studs, same size as land cruiser use.


Cheers Ean

[Tombie]

5 on 120 PCD

[p38arover]

Same as D2, P38A, D3, RRS, L322, et al. (and Holden Commodore?)

[MR LR]

It's not as simple as just matching the PCD... (5x120, with M14x1.5 studs) you'll also need hubs with a spigot that the wheels both fit over, and locate on, so you'll need someone with half a brain to set it up...

[Redback]

It is a big issue with matching your tow vehicle to the trailer, trailer places and hub manufacturers haven't quite made it to the 20th century, let alone the 21st century, most hubs and axles are imperial and not metric, getting 14mm x 1.5 pitch studs with 5 x 120 PCD can be painful, especially with 10" or 12" electric brakes, if your trailer maker has any brains, then maybe it will be done, though steel rims on your trailer will be your only choice.

There are very many wheel manufacturers that make an alloy rim with the 5 x 120 PCD that will fit over the bearing hub, trust me I've tried, as has others here.

Fitting steel wheels shouldn't be an issue, as steel rims locate via the wheel nuts, the other issue is fitting the trailer wheels over the brakes on the tow car, so it will take a bit of work between you and the trailer place.

Baz.

[MR LR]

It is a big issue with matching your tow vehicle to the trailer, trailer places and hub manufacturers haven't quite made it to the 20th century, let alone the 21st century, most hubs and axles are imperial and not metric, getting 14mm x 1.5 pitch studs with 5 x 120 PCD can be painful, especially with 10" or 12" electric brakes, if your trailer maker has any brains, then maybe it will be done, though steel rims on your trailer will be your only choice.

There are very many wheel manufacturers that make an alloy rim with the 5 x 120 PCD that will fit over the bearing hub, trust me I've tried, as has others here.

Fitting steel wheels shouldn't be an issue, as steel rims locate via the wheel nuts, the other issue is fitting the trailer wheels over the brakes on the tow car, so it will take a bit of work between you and the trailer place.

Baz.
You can fit alloys quite easily.

[Graeme]

5 x 120 PCD can be painful, especially with 10" or 12" electric brakesIt is physically possible to drill 5x120 in a 10" parallel electric brake hub but not in a 12" electric brake hub because its inner bearing is too large for this PCD.

[Redback]

You can fit alloys quite easily.

Not D3/D4 alloys you can't, well unless you go 19s, but then you need hub centric rings and at what cost, show me alloys that will then fit the car and trailer as well, that don't cost a fortune and what happens when you get a flat, remember we are talking 18 and 19" tyres here.


It is physically possible to drill 5x120 in a 10" parallel electric brake hub but not in a 12" electric brake hub because its inner bearing is too large for this PCD.

But he will have 18" as a minimum, how many places make an alloy to suit the D4 as well, this is the main problem, then getting the trailer manufacturer to find them and set the van up to suit.

If it were 16" rims and tyres, then no real problem, but I think the trailer mob will refuse and prefer that he go cruiser pattern and 9/16 studs, like 99.9% of trailer/van manufacturers.

[NTB]

Hello Wayne (Bush_TM),

I went through this about 18months ago when I ordered a new caravan (Lifestyle Camper Trailers AT12). I have a MY11 SDV6 SE with the 19" Alloys. I had purchased another second hand set of 19" Land Rover rims for the new van. But after investigating what is available in Australia I gave up. But trying to get someone to tell me or show me what the issues were was difficult.

The van was coming with Vehicle Components Cruise Master Independent Coil Suspension. Their manufacturing facility is not far from where I live so I went down and had a chat. They had examples of their suspension systems on display. He was able to show me that Vehicle Components and others in Australia have a large centre bearing housing which protrudes out from the hub and brake assembly. This will not allow the Land Rover rim with the small centre hole to pass over the bearing housing let alone fit correctly. There are a few different size bearing housings used and the smallest one may be OK but in my case with the 2500kg Suspension I had the largest bearing housing. I have heard of other people making up specially built hubs but I was not going to go down that track.

So I decided to order the Standard 6 Stud Toyota / Nissan hubs and use standard steel rims. The van came standard with one spare wheel and I had another second spare wheel carrier fitted with the Land Rover stud patten. So I carry my second spare for the Disco on the back of the van. If I am unlucky enough to have 2 flat tyres on the van, I have chosen the most popular stud patten in Australia. So I maybe lucky enough to beg, burrow, buy a spare wheel until I get to the get town. Worst case is I would have to leave the van behind and get a the tyre fixed at the next town.

I have heard of people using wheel hub spacers which convert from 6 Stud Toyota to 5 Stud Land Rover. I did not want to use spacers.

Anyway that was my solution.

NTB

[scarry]

It would also be helpful,if the trailer could be made to track the tow vehicle.
This would be helpful,particularly in sand.

[gghaggis]

I loanedTrackTrailer (the makers of the Tvan) an 18" rim so that they could fabricate a hub to suit. They might be willing to help.

Cheers

Gordon

[LandyAndy]

It would also be helpful,if the trailer could be made to track the tow vehicle.
This would be helpful,particularly in sand.

Any idea how close the D3/D4 track is compared to a D2???
My unfinished camper trailer has a D2 matched track/wheels.
Thanks
Andrew

[MR LR]

Not D3/D4 alloys you can't, well unless you go 19s, but then you need hub centric rings and at what cost, show me alloys that will then fit the car and trailer as well, that don't cost a fortune and what happens when you get a flat, remember we are talking 18 and 19" tyres here.


Yes they can be made to fit parallel bearing hubs, the hub needs a small amount machined off it (irrelevant to strength) and a spacer plate made 12mm thick (use 12mm longer studs).

In fact it's easier than fitting D2 wheels.

Ring Coopers and ask for a D4 wheel conversion on a trailer, see who's number they give you ;)

And it's legal :)

[scarry]

Any idea how close the D3/D4 track is compared to a D2???
My unfinished camper trailer has a D2 matched track/wheels.
Thanks
Andrew

D4 1612mm approx

D2 1540mm approx

Not far away

[Redback]

Yes they can be made to fit parallel bearing hubs, the hub needs a small amount machined off it (irrelevant to strength) and a spacer plate made 12mm thick (use 12mm longer studs).

In fact it's easier than fitting D2 wheels.

Ring Coopers and ask for a D4 wheel conversion on a trailer, see who's number they give you ;)

And it's legal :)

Pointless going to all that trouble if the rims don't fit the car, and it may be legal in NSW with an engineers report, but that means nothing in QLD.

Baz.

[MR LR]

Pointless going to all that trouble if the rims don't fit the car, and it may be legal in NSW with an engineers report, but that means nothing in QLD.

Baz.
What are you on about? The rims are genuine D4 wheels, unmodified.

With all due respect, just because you can't figure it out Baz, doesn't mean it's impossible...

[Redback]

What are you on about? The rims are genuine D4 wheels, unmodified.

With all due respect, just because you can't figure it out Baz, doesn't mean it's impossible...

18" rims don't fit the 3.0l D4

As far as I'm aware, aren't spacers illegal and aren't mods like this, require an engineers cert.

[Tombie]

18" rims don't fit the 3.0l D4

As far as I'm aware, aren't spacers illegal and aren't mods like this, require an engineers cert.


Had a look - spacers on trailers don't seem to get a mention...

[Redback]

Had a look - spacers on trailers don't seem to get a mention...

Yeah I did notice that, what do you think in regards to needing an engineers cert, would this mod need it??

[MR LR]

18" rims don't fit the 3.0l D4

As far as I'm aware, aren't spacers illegal and aren't mods like this, require an engineers cert.

That's why those with 19's on the car fit 19's to the trailer. :D


Had a look - spacers on trailers don't seem to get a mention...


Yeah I did notice that, what do you think in regards to needing an engineers cert, would this mod need it??

Nope, no engineering required for small trailers. They're designed at the discretion of the fabricator/builder. Whilst following general guidelines, as dictated in the document on "building small trailers". The minimum requirements are insanely easy to meet...

PM me if you want alloys on your trailer that match the car Baz ;) :D

[Redback]

That's why those with 19's on the car fit 19's to the trailer. :D





Nope, no engineering required for small trailers. They're designed at the discretion of the fabricator/builder. Whilst following general guidelines, as dictated in the document on "building small trailers". The minimum requirements are insanely easy to meet...

PM me if you want alloys on your trailer that match the car Baz ;) :D

Might be a different requirement for trailers in QLD though.

It's more about whether the company doing his camper, will go to the trouble of setting it up to suit his D4, which I think they won't.

The other thing is, 19s are not ideal for remote travel, especially when you factor in the weight of the combination, I'm assuming he will be doing a fair bit of travelling, once the camper/van is ready, with some remote stuff in that travelling.

I don't need alloys at the moment Will, I have 17" BMW alloys if I want to go back to alloys for the camper, I have the 2.7l D4 and I already know what I need to do to put alloys on if I go to 10" electric brakes in the future.

Baz.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Any idea how close the D3/D4 track is compared to a D2???
My unfinished camper trailer has a D2 matched track/wheels.
Thanks
Andrew


D4 1612mm approx

D2 1540mm approx

Not far away

just a couple of spacers Andy,,
which appear to be legal on trailers,,,,:cool:

[Wojer]

18" rims don't fit the 3.0l D4

As far as I'm aware, aren't spacers illegal and aren't mods like this, require an engineers cert.

Strange?
My D4 came fitted with 18" wheels.

[Tombie]

Strange?
My D4 came fitted with 18" wheels.

Aftermarket if it’s a 3.0.

[Aussie Jeepster]

Comment from left field!
If it's really important, could you use Disco rear wheel hubs somehow on a trailer axle?
Just putting it out there.
Alan

[loanrangie]

Comment from left field!
If it's really important, could you use Disco rear wheel hubs somehow on a trailer axle?
Just putting it out there.
Alan

Rears are just a flange, fronts are hub/bearing units so could be fitted on a custom axle.

[Tombie]

It’s just a commodore hub you need..... just machine the spigot if it’s a little too big

[Redback]

Strange?
My D4 came fitted with 18" wheels.

So did mine, but the 18" rims on the 2.7ltr D4 will not fit the 3.0ltr D4