D4 - Rear wheel carrier

[Ben_Vapid]

Hey team,

After having to half empty the car on a recent trip to change a tire, a rear wheel carrier is now top of my list.

I know this topic has been done before, but I can't find any recent threads, so i'm chasing up to date info.

My D4 has rear sensors and that's the biggest concern, i've read a few threads about some breaking after a carrier install. I only need a single carrier and my choices seem to be a rijidij, OL or FrontRunner.

Has anyone installed one of these recently and have any stories from the trenches? And does anyone know who can install them (i'm in Melbourne)

Cheers!

[ADMIRAL]

I have the Frontrunner, and have disabled the centre two sensors by pasting rubber furniture pads over them. Others have turned the sensors with limited success.

I find the tyre itself and the cover ( if used ) can cause more issues with the sensors than the carrier itself. Even the finish on the cover ( shiny /reflective ) can trip the sensors.

The Front Runner is located more towards the centre than the others, but I have still fitted an additional stop/tail/indicator. I felt it was marginal when viewed using the Dept of Transport criteria, and I didn't want the hassle of being pulled over.

I have a mate with the Outback Equipment carrier from OL, and I feel it looks sturdier, but more utilitarian than than the Frontrunner. ( which OL are now the agents for ironically )

[Ben_Vapid]

Yeah the one thing going for the OL one is that it has a stop/indicator built into it but still kills one of the sensors with the locking mechanism but the looks :

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/06/249.jpg

[BMKal]

Yeah the one thing going for the OL one is that it has a stop/indicator built into it but still kills one of the sensors with the locking mechanism but the looks :

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/06/249.jpg

While it is badged as and sold by Opposite Lock, that is the "Outback Accessories" wheel carrier, made in WA. I have the same on my D4 (except that there is no "OL" labelling on mine).

As you say, you lose one reversing sensor because of the position of the locking mechanism, but at least in my case, this does not seem to have had any noticeable effect on the system.

I got rid of that bloody horrible looking additional tail light that they supply with the wheel carrier, and replaced it with a much better looking (and better functioning) round LED tail light from a supplier in Queensland. It is a good match with the round tail lights of the D4.

[Ozzy119]

Hey team,

After having to half empty the car on a recent trip to change a tire, a rear wheel carrier is now top of my list.


Has anyone installed one of these recently and have any stories from the trenches? And does anyone know who can install them (i'm in Melbourne)

Cheers!

In the 90K kms with my car I've had to change 3 wheels, all rear ones and all ruined, crushed down to their rims because the car levelled itself for much of the time before i could tell the tyre was flat. I've since installed pressure sensors to warn me in time, as I believe in all 3 cases I could have temporarily saved with the compressor and then plugged later at a more convenient time and location.

To me that far out weighs the hassle of a swing away rear carrier. I use the back of the car a lot.

[LGM]

I know its a personal choice and like Ozzy119 I also use the back of my D4 quite a lot around town and in the bush so having a swing away would / could be quite a PITA. :wasntme:

I chuck (winch actually) my second spare up on the roof rack when I go bush. :cool:

[Ben_Vapid]

In the 90K kms with my car I've had to change 3 wheels, all rear ones and all ruined, crushed down to their rims because the car levelled itself for much of the time before i could tell the tyre was flat. I've since installed pressure sensors to warn me in time, as I believe in all 3 cases I could have temporarily saved with the compressor and then plugged later at a more convenient time and location.

To me that far out weighs the hassle of a swing away rear carrier. I use the back of the car a lot.

Yeah i'm in the same boat.

Did you use these by any chance? Land Rover and Jaguar Tyre Sensors | TyreSensors.com (http://www.tyresensors.com/product/40/VDO_TPMS_Tyre_Sensor_-_Jaguar,_Land_Rover) . And how do you get warned of a leak?

[Ozzy119]

Yeah i'm in the same boat.

Did you use these by any chance? Land Rover and Jaguar Tyre Sensors | TyreSensors.com (http://www.tyresensors.com/product/40/VDO_TPMS_Tyre_Sensor_-_Jaguar,_Land_Rover) . And how do you get warned of a leak?

Hi,

No, just an after market product from autobarn / repco, can't remember. Was about $250 with a small little dash mounted display unit. Shows real time pressures, high / low warnings, temp control and rapid loss emergency warning. I'm very happy with the comfort factor it gives me and previously I had no idea of the variances tyres go through during specific operating conditions. Its a whole new world of inputs to worry about ha ha

[carlschmid2002]

You haven't mentioned the Kaymar bar. I have this with two wheels on it. My sensors no longer work. I rely on the camera.

[The Fridster]

Have you considered the inside option fabricated by Brown Davis in Bayswater Victoria. Still leaves plenty of room for fridges and loads of other stuff. Very easy access and makes room for a Brown Davis 110 ltr aux tank underneath.

[Ben_Vapid]

Thanks guys, the brown davis one is a good idea, but I have internal draws and a fridge so it would take up too much space.

[Tombie]

That BD mount at face value seems like a good idea... Until you go to pack for a trip away...

Then you'll realise that it's consuming far too much space!!!!

[Melbourne Park]

The BD seems light and simple though, cheap, and it doesn't put extra weight on the rear axle like the rear carriers do, which are well behind the rear axle.

I might leave my tyre underneath and put the sixth one there actually ... I could always put a the flat dirty tyre on the roof in order to keep the cabin clean (IMO its major disadvantage).

[Melbourne Park]

In the 90K kms with my car I've had to change 3 wheels, all rear ones and all ruined, crushed down to their rims because the car levelled itself for much of the time before i could tell the tyre was flat. I've since installed pressure sensors to warn me in time, as I believe in all 3 cases I could have temporarily saved with the compressor and then plugged later at a more convenient time and location.

To me that far out weighs the hassle of a swing away rear carrier. I use the back of the car a lot.

Which sensor system did you have installed? I'd like to do that, and also fit the same setup to my trailer. They are also prone to wrecked tyres that could have been saved by a warning system.

[Boggs]

While it is badged as and sold by Opposite Lock, that is the "Outback Accessories" wheel carrier, made in WA. I have the same on my D4 (except that there is no "OL" labelling on mine).

As you say, you lose one reversing sensor because of the position of the locking mechanism, but at least in my case, this does not seem to have had any noticeable effect on the system.

I got rid of that bloody horrible looking additional tail light that they supply with the wheel carrier, and replaced it with a much better looking (and better functioning) round LED tail light from a supplier in Queensland. It is a good match with the round tail lights of the D4.


I have the Outback swing away on my MY 14. Very sturdy, however from 2014 they changed the electrics of the parking system and you cannot "bridge" the sensor that is covered by the latch as it will blow the circuit. I have tried the furniture pad solution on the sensor (its tucked behind the bumper) but it didn't work. Still getting an alarm. I recently had a bull bar fitted by OL in Welshpool (WA) and they have had the same issues with MY 14 on. They now mount the offending sensor on a bracket they make and attach to the carrier, but still get interference issues sometimes from tyres, rubbish bags etc on the carrier.

[Baytown]

Hi fellas;

Just revive this old thread, is this internal Tyre carrier an off the shelf item or does it need to be made up? Im looking into fitting a long range accessory tank, and as such, scoping the options re Tyre carriers.

Im not too keen on the weight involved with the external swing away carriers, and the space taken up isn’t that big an issue for me, as my Discovery is my towing vehicle.

Thanks for any info re this option.

Ken


Have you considered the inside option fabricated by Brown Davis in Bayswater Victoria. Still leaves plenty of room for fridges and loads of other stuff. Very easy access and makes room for a Brown Davis 110 ltr aux tank underneath.

[ATH]

I fitted a Ridiji RWC to my 2016 D4 mainly because I like their products but also because it doesn't obscure the rear lights as much as the stuff OL fits.
Fellow club member had another type of carrier (mentioned in a previous post above) and was very annoyed at the attitude of the fitters when he complained of it leaning out at the back.
They had to shim it somewhere for it to sit properly. I asked them about it and they just laughed it off as him complaining about nothing. Another reason for going with Ridiji.
Fitting time was approximately twice the 4 hrs. they reckoned but I put that down to my incompetence but instructions were precise and easy to follow.
AlanH.

PS. Couldn't possibly lift a wheel onto the roof or have enough room for the Cooks gear by putting it inside instead. :)

[Baytown]

Thanks ATH.

After reviewing the Ridjidij unit, and seeing it’s been updated, I think I will go that route.
$1,500 isn’t too much to pay for this mod and it’s convenience.

Thanks mate.

Ken


I fitted a Ridiji RWC to my 2016 D4 mainly because I like their products but also because it doesn't obscure the rear lights as much as the stuff OL fits.
Fellow club member had another type of carrier (mentioned in a previous post above) and was very annoyed at the attitude of the fitters when he complained of it leaning out at the back.
They had to shim it somewhere for it to sit properly. I asked them about it and they just laughed it off as him complaining about nothing. Another reason for going with Ridiji.
Fitting time was approximately twice the 4 hrs. they reckoned but I put that down to my incompetence but instructions were precise and easy to follow.
AlanH.

PS. Couldn't possibly lift a wheel onto the roof or have enough room for the Cooks gear by putting it inside instead. :)

[rhinosm]

I made an internal set up, which I remove on desert trips and put spare on roof.
Works for me, I'm not into having to open a RWC everyday to get into rear of vehicle.

[rocket rod]

I've mentioned this in other RWC threads but see if the Ridiji can be removed easily. This way you only install it when going country. It means driving without a spare on city roads but think about it, when was the last time you had a flat? I carry a plug kit so roadside repairs are possible anyway. If you're not confident about this then leave the carrier on all the time.

[DieselLSE]

... but see if the Ridiji can be removed easily.
Yes it can. It comes with a threaded cover for the bearing stub. I currently have my spare wheel on the roof. You just have to remember not to enter any car parks! This is easy for me as I rarely need to do so and I used to carry a spare wheel permanently on the roof of my SIII so I'm aware of it being up there.
Actually, despite being worried that I would find moving the Rijidij spare wheel carrier out of the way all the time, I was surprised to find that it didn't bother me at all. I only removed it to fit a bike carrier and just haven't bothered putting it back on.

[Birdboy]

I've mentioned this in other RWC threads but see if the Ridiji can be removed easily. This way you only install it when going country. It means driving without a spare on city roads but think about it, when was the last time you had a flat? I carry a plug kit so roadside repairs are possible anyway. If you're not confident about this then leave the carrier on all the time.

I'd be keen to hear peoples experiences with taking the carrier off too. Having a few mates with RWC I honestly don't think my wife would be able to open some of them.

I saw another thread that mentioned the Tyre Trek ones which looks like a perfect alternative if you're not towing.

[Bewitched]

I'd be keen to hear peoples experiences with taking the carrier off too. Having a few mates with RWC I honestly don't think my wife would be able to open some of them.

I saw another thread that mentioned the Tyre Trek ones which looks like a perfect alternative if you're not towing.

I had twin Kaymar units on my LC100 when I had that. I wanted the long range tank more than a spare wheel, but wanted the touring certainty capability offered by two spares, so I had the original bumper units fitted (so no replacement big steel rear bumper) and as rocketrod said, for six years of around town driving in it, I just left the wheel carriers off, covered the stub with the screw on cover they come with, and all was good. RWC is a pain if you do need to bring your vehicle into shopping centres as there sometimes isn't enough room to swing the wheel away to open the rear door with the small car parking spaces in many urban centres. Then you are stuck trying to get all your stuff into the car via the side doors.

Never had an issue the whole time running without a spare around town, and dropped the carrier (or both) back on for trips away.

It didn't look too intrusive even with just a small bracket on the outside that supported the stub axle for the carrier, with most of the hardware under the bumper. Worked a treat!

As for opening and closing, generally they are very easy to open and close, even with the spare wheel on, as the support is typically fitted with double bearings (top and bottom of the stub axle) making for a very smooth opening and closing action.

[rocket rod]

I'd be keen to hear peoples experiences with taking the carrier off too. Having a few mates with RWC I honestly don't think my wife would be able to open some of them.

The first complaint you'll get is "it's ruined my nice new.."insert clothing item here"", the next will be " I can't open the blasted thing anyway". At least that was my experience.

[goofyr]

My wife doesn’t have any problems opening and closing our Outback Accessories RWC. It has a gas strut to assist.

[DiscoMick]

No problems here with my Mantec RWC, which opens with the door. We also have a gas strut to hold the rear door.

[GregMilner]

I've got the Outback Accessories jobbie, easy enough. Learned my lesson when having to unload the entire back of the cargo bay in the RRS to get to the spare after a blowout on the Gibb a few years ago.
(The other Disco is my brother's. He hasn't had a flat tyre yet.)

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[Birdboy]

My wife doesn’t have any problems opening and closing our Outback Accessories RWC. It has a gas strut to assist.

Its more the unlocking latch that I’ve found super stiff on mates cars. Not the actual swinging. Glad to hear others aren’t having that problem

[SeanC]

This is where the sensor was moved to on my D3 RWC. Unfortunately don’t know who manufactured it as it was on the vehicle when I purchased it. Works fine. No interference with any sensor.

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[goofyr]

Its more the unlocking latch that I’ve found super stiff on mates cars. Not the actual swinging. Glad to hear others aren’t having that problem

My latch is pretty easy to use looks like below, the sensor relocation also shown. This sensor is not my problem, it’s the corner one which I have had to put a pad on for sensors to work correctly.

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