6.2 chevy v8

[discoRRc]

hey guys, is anyone running a 6.2 or 6.5 chev diesel in their landies? and whats peoples thoughts on them

[loanrangie]

Boat anchor.

[rangieman]

Boat anchor.

x2:eek:

[Toxic_Avenger]

You can hold it against me if you want, but before I bought the defender, I was looking at cruisers, particularly 80 and early 100 series with the chev V8 conversions.
Fuel economy is not great... IIRC you can bank on 15-20L/100km.
They can tend to overheat (but also common when a larger displacement motor is used with non OE cooling systems).
Not a common engine in Australia (but plenty of them in the US)
They sound good though.

I think in this day, there are way better engines to look at than the Chev V8. But there might be merits with having a 'basic' diesel V8 over some of the more modern donks. Depends what you're chasing I guess.

[85 county]

there was a very nice rangy running about SA with a chev diesel. got ripped out and replaced with a 1bd

[p38arover]

Moved - the topic has nothing to do with Isuzu powered models.

Do a search. At least one member had one - username something like D110V8D

[Sitec]

I've always loved the sound of the Chev V8 Diesel, but having. Driven them and heard so much bad, I've never owned one. I know for two dead engines locally in a shed. Gaz69 (think that's right) on here has one in a Range Rover Classic.. He now has two Duramax powered Defenders tho...
If you're looking for big diesel power in a Land Rover that's simple, look into the Cummins 6bt.. I have one in my 101 and it sounds well, goes very well and is pretty good on fuel too! There's a group on Facebook called 'Cummins Land Rover Group'. You'd get some info there.. :)

[Mick_Marsh]

I've always loved the sound of the Chev V8 Diesel, but having. Driven them and heard so much bad, I've never owned one. I know for two dead engines locally in a shed. Gaz69 (think that's right) on here has one in a Range Rover Classic.. He now has two Duramax powered Defenders tho...
If you're looking for big diesel power in a Land Rover that's simple, look into the Cummins 6bt.. I have one in my 101 and it sounds well, goes very well and is pretty good on fuel too! There's a group on Facebook called 'Cummins Land Rover Group'. You'd get some info there.. :)
There was a video posted, I think you posted it Sitec, of a fellow in the UK installing a 6bt in a 110.
discoRRc, no matter what you decide, put up a build thread.
I would have nothing to contribute but I would find it an interesting read.

[Sitec]

Here's a vid of a Cummins powered 110.. Instantaneous crisp power. I've tweaked my 101, and it is more than enough for me, and that's without upgrading the turbo, pump or injectors!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Mu0nmqKBA

[Toxic_Avenger]

Here's a vid of a Cummins powered 110..

http://preview.images.memegenerator.net/Instance/Preview?imageID=1120230&generatorTypeID=&panels=&text0=&text1=%27Dat%20spool&text2=&text3=

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/outbound-distilleryimage8/t0.0-17/OBPTH/98f864da008b11e39a9c22000a1fbe09_6.jpg

[carlschmid2002]

You can hold it against me if you want, but before I bought the defender, I was looking at cruisers, particularly 80 and early 100 series with the chev V8 conversions.
Fuel economy is not great... IIRC you can bank on 15-20L/100km.
They can tend to overheat (but also common when a larger displacement motor is used with non OE cooling systems).
Not a common engine in Australia (but plenty of them in the US)
They sound good though.

I think in this day, there are way better engines to look at than the Chev V8. But there might be merits with having a 'basic' diesel V8 over some of the more modern donks. Depends what you're chasing I guess.

A mate has one in a 60 series LC. He gets much better economy than this. He told me he gets 11-12L/100km on average. I don't know what gearing he is running. I did some research on these when I had my Pootrol. For a drive in drive out conversion you are looking at least $20K and they only produce about 130KW in non turbo form. The torque is produced very low in the revs but it is nothing to get excited about. I personally would look at something from Jaoan like a 1HZ Turbo.

[123rover50]

I put the 6.2 in this 15 years ago, as that seemed to be the only option around at the time.
No problems so far.
Keith

[discoRRc]

Moved - the topic has nothing to do with Isuzu powered models.

Do a search. At least one member had one - username something like D110V8D

sorry mate, meant to ask aswell how do people rate them against a 4bd1

[Vern]

I put one in a rangie once, it was the 6.5, that is a time in my life I try to forget, sooooo much heartache. What a big, heavy, underpowered, thirsty, how do I keep this cool, piece of rubbish. I should have put a 4BD1T in instead, and now I have in my current rangie, I am sooooo happy with it, it does everything I want and need .:)

[rangieman]

I put one in a rangie once, it was the 6.5, that is a time in my life I try to forget, sooooo much heartache. What a big, heavy, underpowered, thirsty, how do I keep this cool, piece of rubbish. I should have put a 4BD1T in instead, and now I have in my current rangie, I am sooooo happy with it, it does everything I want and need .:)

No offence Damien :cool:
Straight from the horses mouth:p

[Keithy P38]

My old man has a 6.5 in his 110. Runs a 4L80E as well.

Boat anchor comment is a bit over the top - this thing is a tank and uses less fuel than my 4.6 P38 ever will, does all its work at idle.

If you ask him nicely he might sell it... Probably for less than what it'd cost you to convert one.

Cheers
Keithy

[D110V8D]

I can't believe people are still considering these engines.

I agree with Vern. Heavy, slow, thirsty and they run hot, unless you spend some good money on the cooling system, to get similar performance to the dinner table sized radiator normally found in the American trucks they come out of.

Plenty of other, better choices out there. :)

[Vern]

If they were that great, i'd still have mine, mick would still have his, rovercare would still have his blah blah blah. 😊 i'd rather a 3.0 nissan motor than the chev😅

[Toxic_Avenger]

If they were that great, i'd still have mine, mick would still have his, rovercare would still have his blah blah blah. 😊 i'd rather a 3.0 nissan motor than the chev😅

BURN!

(preceded by the noise of the turbo compressor wheel getting sucked thru the engine)

[Sitec]

Boat anchor comment is a bit over the top

I think its pretty close.. :wasntme: They're derived from a petrol, have average torque, are IDI, blocks are weak, put a turbo on them and their life is halved.. Nope, there's a lot more options that are a far better bet around. A remapped Td5 would go better.. Granted, the GM V8's sound sweet, but that's about all IMO. :)

[33chinacars]

GM 6.6 liter V8 diesel + 1000 Nm of torque for me anyday

[Vern]

Now ya talking!

[123rover50]

Well the old 6.2 towed the Royal Review to Samford Show and back this weekend. Around 6 tonne all up and performed faultlessly.
Cruises at 100 k at 2500 rpm in 5thgear on the Isuzu MSA with 4.7 diffs and 900 x 16 tyres:D:D:D

Keith

[Mercguy]

It's interesting to read the comments, particularly from those who've "been there, done that" with regard to the v8 swaps.

One of the things I've been careful to consider is to not upset the vehicles original dynamics, or rather, to use the benefit of 30+ years of engineering evolution to improve the vehicle in the areas where it is by modern standards 'particularly weak' - and that is power to weight ratio, weight distribution and torque curve.

Braking performance is another area, and believe it or not, at least in my RRC the transmission and transfer case are actually quite efficient, with their archilles heel being only the torque handling design limit.

So as I slowly accumulate all the necessary for my particular application, I note with interest the various engine swaps and their attributes, both positive and negative.

It's interesting to note a couple of things regarding the chev diesel - weight and cooling, being the most prevalent negative comment, then the fuel/power comments, before moving on to other issues of a lesser conjecture.

Of course, we all love to be armchair experts when it comes to opinions, but in reality, only those who perform these conversions / swaps really understand the limitations of what they have to work with versus the cost to 'make it work' versus what it'd cost to 'make it perfect'... and I think that the big issue is in those different statements.

Not everyone has an unlimited budget to work with. Some people happen to have something suitable on-hand, which means zero net cost.
Others yet have the necessary fabrication skills to DIY, while others have more money than brains and will throw endless amounts of cash at something just to prove a point.

How effective or sensible all these variants are in combination are actually a moot point.

From my previous experiences, the only way to achieve a successful outcome it so do the absolute best with what you have available to you, and if it is well planned, the cost will not be absurd and the results surprisingly good.

But, at the end of the day, you cannot make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

So ideally, you choose something that is overall an improvement in every aspect than what currently exists in-situ.

Which is why I casually smile when I read all the comments. It's reaffirming to read from others direct experiences what works and what doesn't.

It's not to say good idea or bad idea..... it's purely information provided to alert those who undertake such projects to the areas requiring attention to make the overall conversion process a rewarding effort, and not a constant battle.

[Vern]

Mercguy, my conversion fit well, made it all myself (except trans adapter), motor went fine (was fully rebuilt, new pump injector ls etc...) similar to the holden 336 stroker i had in there previously, lunched a t700 though, second one was bullet proof.
But overall it wasn't that impressive, not what all the hype was anyway, and cooling was the hard part.
I am much much happier with my 4bd1t now, much more user friendly, but what surprised me was the the chev and the 4bd1 weigh about the same.

[frantic]

There could be a new option on the plate soon, Cummins is going to make a 5.0 v8 TDI for the patrol/titan in the U.S. in response to the ford/chev/Chrysler big block diesels. Its supposed to be around 230kw and 720nm or 310 horsepower and 555 lb-ft of torque.
Cummins Engines (http://cumminsengines.com/nissan-titan)
Cummins Engines (http://cumminsengines.com/cummins-5l-v8-turbo-diesel)

[Toxic_Avenger]

The Foton Tunland has the 2.8L Chinese made Cummins diesel, and I'm damn sure in a few years there will be plenty of those engines floating around when the rest of the car rusts around it :twisted:

[rammypluge]

I once test drove an aussie suburban with the V8 diesel in it. At startup the NVH was horrendous. It went okay around the suburbs, but as the revs rose the power curve dropped off quickly, so i imagine overtaking or hills or highway work wouldnt be quick.

I ended up getting an Amarok, that with only 2.0L ****s all over it performance wise, uses way less fuel, and you can almost forget the engine is running.