Front Hubs

[JohnE]

I know I read it somewhere, but can't remember where.
I'll try to get to the point with out my usual short story long.
Instead of topping up the oil levels in the front hubs of a Discovery , someone put in some semi fluid grease. Was good for those that leak ( thats all L/R front hubs isn't it.)
My questions for those of you that have tried it.
What type of grease? high temp wheel bearing I imagine.
Semi Fluid does that run like gear oil?( viscosity that is)
do you drain out all the oil and replace it with the grease?

Lastly does it work or is there more mess to clean up when it leaks.



john

[weeds]

One Shot grease from L/R.

I have not used yet, however next time I service the front I will use one shot grease. The defence force has converted all its Land Rovers over to one shot grease. The vehical I drive on a part time basic has had it for over twelve months with no leaks. I think they replace it each time they service the whell bearings.

[landy_man]

i am not a big fan of this stuff... it makes a right royal mess in the hubs come service time and with oil you can actually see when your hubs are leaking and allowing water/mud to penetrate the seal...

Most Rover specialists will tell you it is best to run oil and do lots of conversions on later models to allow the diff oil to flow freely into the hub...

IIRC Rover released the grease because they were doing lots of leaking hub repairs and this was their answer as apposed to a better seal arrangement :roll:

[cewilson]

Yes, we have replaced all of our 110's with the stuff. But personally I have stayed with the oil in my civilian 110. Only reasoning is preference, not as messy and I can see if there are any problems straight away.

The stuff seems to be working fine in the work 110's with no known faults that I am aware off. And it was recommended by LandRover Australia, hence why we changed ours.

Cheers
Chris

[JohnE]

Thanks fellas
for my part so far it seems a balanced argument. Perhaps I'll stick with the oil, and put up with the little bit of leakage.
Not having any experirnce with semi fluid grease, I can only assume it is as messy as normal grease.


john

[rick130]

why do Land Rover die hards always insist oil is better than a good moly grease ?

I've never seen anyone give a convincing answer.
Most nearly all other vehicles on the road that use CV's use a moly fortified grease. Land Rover were always different, then when the factory went to 'One Shot', Texaco's Molytex EP NLGI 00 grease (3%moly), everyone screams. How come ?

FWIW, I think the one shot is an excellent compromise. Please try and convince me otherwise. :wink:

[JohnE]

Mr Rick
I knew it would only be a matter of time for the balance to change, moly fortified you say . Now your talking. I take it 'One shot' has moly in it , I have never seen the stuff. I suppose I had better buy some.
The only thing I wasn't sure about is the vicosity, I take it yo can measure it out like oil and inject or pour it into the hole.

john

[rick130]

JohnE, yes, Land Rover 'One Shot' (Texaco Molytex EP 00) is a 3% moly fortified 'grease'

Greases, like oils, come in various viscosities, the most common being in the NLGI #2 range (think of your general chassis grease or wheel bearing grease)
Next lighter is #1, then #0, then #00, which is a semi fluid grease, or a very heavy oil :wink: This is the visosity of One Shot.
It comes in a sachet (IIRC, 330ml), just the right amount to squirt into a swivel. It is also stupid expensive ($30 ??) from a Stealer for an average grease with a bit of MoS2.

Or of course, If you are a cheap skate like me, I mixed some Castrol SAF-XA (75W-140 synthetic gear oil) I had with some Castrol LMM (3% moly/Litium complex grease) and a dash of Neo CV-25 (Ultra high performance race car CV grease) and squirted this into the swivel housing. Seems OK after 40 000km.

[cewilson]

Mate, I agree with you. It is good stuff, if it wasn't we wouldn't use it at work. But old habits stick with me, and I just stuck to what has worked for me in the old girl! Not that there is anything wrong with either product in my eyes anyway!

Cheers
Chris

[landy_man]

as I said... I prefer oil as it penetrates everywhere and I can see when I am getting water and mud in my hubs by the oil running out style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif ...

I was also under the impression you need to heat the one shot satchets in warm water before it will "flow" into the hubs... now if this is correct one would assume that it only reaches the desired viscosity when warm which could mean no lube until the hubs generate enough heat to warm the grease.... but I am assume this from what I have heard about the grease needing to be heated prior to pouring it into the hubs