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101RRS
16th June 2005, 01:12 PM
Hi, there is a Freelander XEDI for sale on e-bay and the guy indicates it has a modified air intake - someone asked a question about it and the seller replied
"The air intake at the airbox is too small, I have removed the airbox and installed a 3" finer filter pod. Blah Blah Blah ... to make sure the engine performs and lasts then install the oil/mist catch can ...."
Can anyone familiar with early diesel Freelanders explain what this is all about - my car has done 185,000km and spins up really quick to the redline and will easily go past it to the engine cutout (when I stuff things up) and it only has a standard intake and air filter so it obviously breaths pretty well as designed.
Thanks
Gazzz
101RRS
17th June 2005, 11:51 AM
I will move this post back up to the top of the list so I might get some visability again. Maybe if I take out Freelander and put in Disco someone might have some ideas.
Anyone - pleeeeeaaaaasssee style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif
PhilipA
17th June 2005, 07:29 PM
Why do you assume an Ebay seller has ANY knowledge of air intakes.
Sounds like he had read a unifilter ad.
According to research that Autospeed did, all standard filters tested gave in practical terms zero rtesistance to flow.
Not having really taken much notice of Freelander air cleaners, I really cannot comment further, but I think you said it yourself.
If you want to be sure, buy a Magnahelic or Minihelic pressure differential gauge and test the pressure drop. Just do not accept anything on ebay at face value.
Regard sPhilip A
101RRS
17th June 2005, 08:32 PM
Hi Philip - I am not assuming the e-bay seller has any knowledge, nor am I accepting anything on ebay at face value.
I simply noticed the statement on ebay and I had heard something similar elsewhere but cannot recall where - I know nothing about it and thought some one on the forum might know something - nothing more - nothing less.
Yes I could do a lot of testing but if someone on the forum has information that would be better and easier. After all isn't that what the forum is for - to share information and to seek answers to queries in a friendly non judgemental environment.
Gazz
disconut
19th June 2005, 02:38 PM
:!: A few of the Disco2.com boys commented on this, (on disco's obviously),
http://forums.disco2.com/viewtopic.php't=1...=air+flow+meter (http://forums.disco2.com/viewtopic.php't=1756&highlight=air+flow+meter)
However it may be the same for Freelanders. The issue is with the Finer Filters and types like them, being over oiled. The oil gets on the mass air flow meter (MAF) and kills it.
Be wary!
Trev.
101RRS
19th June 2005, 03:33 PM
Thanks Disconut - the mod seems to be a modified air box as well as a different filter - no doubt a oil type filter
I had a lot of experience in my younger days with oil filters on bikes and still had to rebuild engines a lot - likewise I changed the filters on my V12 jag to oil bath type filters and it was suggested to change back to paper - the advise was that the oil filter breathes better because they do not stop the really fine particles - the stuff that doesn't wreck bores but polishes them. Ok in a race car that is being rebuilt al the time but not a normal car - however he old Landie series 1 oil bath seemed to work OK.
The go seems to stay with good quality paper filters and change them regularly depending on the conditions. It seems that a couple of people think the freelander airbox design , rather than the filter might restrict airflow - it is a bit convoluted - not like the simple trumpet and airbox on a standard v8 disco
Cheers
Gazzz
Cheers
disconut
19th June 2005, 06:23 PM
The Standard Paper Filter is oiled to some extent anyway. That’s not to say the others do not breathe easier and give some advantage. I have considered this change myself several times but back away when I think about the possible failure of the MAF and $$$$ for a replacement.
Trev.
camel_landy
29th June 2005, 10:45 PM
The original filter placement in the XEDi is between the engine cover and the battery. As the Camels had an eeeeenormious battery, the filter housing was mounted on top of the engine instead.
If you stick a K&N Filter on, IIRC, that will change the location too.
Mark.
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