Best Trailer For Land Rover 4x4 Perentie

[wpalmo]

Hi All,

I am looking at purchasing a trailer to tow behind my RFSV Land Rover. I am thinking of creating a camper style trailer to accompany my future travels and I am not sure what would be the best type of trailer for the job. I was thinking a number 5 but after reading a bit on the forum maybe I would be better off with a single or even a tandem Hallmark trailer. Any advice would be very welcome.

Regards Warrick.

[Mick_Marsh]

The 1250kg Haulmark (tandem) is more suited for the 6x6.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/381.jpg
The 750kg Haulmark (single) would be my pick.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/382.jpg
Failing that, a Cooks.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/383.jpg
Final choice would be a Track
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/754.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/234-671/DSC_1813.jpg.html)
(Mine with a camper on top.)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Tandem trailers are not ideal off-road. The tandem Haulmark have the same track width as the 6x6 Perenties so are wider than the track on your RFSV. The Cooks Body Works and Haulmark PT1 1.2 have a longer box/tub that you can actually put a low stretcher inside and sleep inside the trailer and even sit up under the canopy.
The Track (same manufacturer and independent suspension as the T-Van campers) are much shorter than the Cooks and Haulmark your feet hang outside the canopy and it's like sleeping under a hootchie.
The Cooks and Haulmark also have the advantage that when you traverse a steep gully or steep bank after a creek crossing, the trailer tub and canopy goes over the top of the hood/canopy of the GS and FFR Perentie variants. (Not sure about the RFSV with it's higher roof line.)
All the above single axle trailers are rated at 750Kg payload or 1.2tonne ATM.

[wpalmo]

Thanks Mick and Lotz-A-Landies for your advice.

Next question. Do you know if there are many more of the 750kg Haulmark (single), Cooks or Track trailers still to come to auction through Grays or should I be looking at Gum Tree and Ebay for one?

I live in Perth and I haven't seen any of the trailers come to auction through Grays this year in Perth. I have seen a few tandem Haulmarks come up on the East Coast and a heap of number 5's but I am not sure how many of the 750kg Haulmark (single), Cooks or Track trailers have come to auction this year.

One last question. What is the going rate for these trailers? I know prices vary between auctions but just a ball park figure so I know roughly what I should be prepared to pay for a 750kg Haulmark (single), Cooks or Track trailer.

Maybe I will have to head East to tow one back if there are any more still to be sold through Grays as the East Coast seems to be the place that all the trailers seem to be sold. However I did think that I might have to do that to pick up an RFSV and to my surprise Grays in Perth found around 20 of them in May and June this year to sell. Fingers crossed they can find a few trailers to sell too!

Thanks again for your advice.

Regards Warrick.

[Mick_Marsh]

I haven't seen many of the 750kg Haulmark trailers come through the auctions. My guess is there are quite a number of those yet to come through.
There may be a few more Cooks trailers. I suspect one or two Track trailers are yet to surface as well.

[wpalmo]

Thanks Mick. Do any of the 3 single axle trailers you recommended have independent suspension and disk hydraulic brakes? I was under the impression that they did but from the photo's it looks like they are leaf sprung with the exception being the 'Track'.
Regards Warrick.

[Mick_Marsh]

Yep. Leaf sprung.
I think the Track trailers were a bit of a failure. The suspension was probably too complicated. The Haulmark is a simpler and probably more robust. I would love to get a tandem. I would expect the Haulmark and Cooks to have hydraulic drum brakes.

[87County]

Yep. Leaf sprung.
I think the Track trailers were a bit of a failure. The suspension was probably too complicated. The Haulmark is a simpler and probably more robust. I would love to get a tandem. I would expect the Haulmark and Cooks to have hydraulic drum brakes.

Mick, the Haulmark & Cooks have lever operated drum parking brakes and hydraulic disc over-ride brakes. There is a lock-out solenoid activated by the reversing lights which prevents the disc brakes operating when in reverse gear for obvious reasons.

Trap for young players when they rewire the plug with a narva or similar plug to civvie standards :o

[87County]

I haven't seen many of the 750kg Haulmark trailers come through the auctions. My guess is there are quite a number of those yet to come through.
There may be a few more Cooks trailers. I suspect one or two Track trailers are yet to surface as well.

What we've seen is maybe all that there is. The replacement Haulmarks are slightly shorter and with MB wheels (naturally).

Those wheels must cost a fortune if the price rumoured to have been paid per item is correct.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Warrick

If you keep watching the Minto auctions, I am happy to pick up and store until you arrange shipping over to WA. I have done this half a dozen times for Brian B (B52), but he has come over to pick up.

Diana

[Summiitt]

Late notice but there are 3 or 4 ex military trailers to suit land rovers at a clearing sale near Canberra tomorrow, they are all 1985 models but appeared to be in reasonable condition, 1 has had the hitch modified to suit a 50mm ball. The others are pintle on landrover rims. I can't upload the link, but go to pickles auctions, industrial, Canberra

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Late notice but there are 3 or 4 ex military trailers to suit land rovers at a clearing sale near Canberra tomorrow, they are all 1985 models but appeared to be in reasonable condition, 1 has had the hitch modified to suit a 50mm ball. The others are pintle on landrover rims. I can't upload the link, but go to pickles auctions, industrial, CanberraThese will most likely be No.5 half ton trailers, without brakes and Series Land Rover track.

Australian Frontline Machinery at Minto NSW, stamped the 1985 VIN on all the first few batches of No.5 trailers that went through the auctions although the actual (original) manufacture dates were mostly in the mid to late 1960's

[Summiitt]

No, their not no. 5 trailers, they have hydraulic override brakes and a 1500kg GVM.. Pretty sure one has "groump and Cornish' on it..

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Fairy Nuff!

Although I'm not a fan of the Crump and Cornish, IMHO the drawbar is too short.

IIRC Mick Marsh likes them.

[Summiitt]

Agreed, I had a look at them today and they seem like a big high box with a short stumpy drawbar..

[Mick_Marsh]

The amount of times a tradie has said "Nice trailer, want to sell it to me?" and then walking away disinterested after I advise how much they should expect to pay.
These are not a $300 trailer. Good luck if you pick one up for that little.
The one ton cargo trailer is a great trailer for carting stuff around, like wood.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/137.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/34-597/DSC_5191.jpg.html)
The problem with using it for camping is it is too wide for a 4x4 Perentie (2m)(6x6 Perentie shown)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/138.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/50-714/DSC_4374.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/139.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/50-714/DSC_4375.jpg.html)
and the spring pack is way too stiff.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/140.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/34-597/DSCF1457.jpg.html)

[JayBoRover]

Late notice but there are 3 or 4 ex military trailers to suit land rovers at a clearing sale near Canberra tomorrow, they are all 1985 models but appeared to be in reasonable condition, 1 has had the hitch modified to suit a 50mm ball. The others are pintle on landrover rims. I can't upload the link, but go to pickles auctions, industrial, Canberra
Aaarrgghh - too short notice. I'd love to get my mitts on a Crump & Cornish. Be great to hitch behind the 101FC. Not sure how I'd get it across to WA.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Would GarryCol pick it up for you?

Rail freight would likely be the cheapest option for shipping, The Booger had his Ferret brought over from WA by rail freight.

[Summiitt]

Late notice but there are 3 or 4 ex military trailers to suit land rovers at a clearing sale near Canberra tomorrow, they are all 1985 models but appeared to be in reasonable condition, 1 has had the hitch modified to suit a 50mm ball. The others are pintle on landrover rims. I can't upload the link, but go to pickles auctions, industrial, Canberra

Trailers made between $750 and $1300..

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Trailers made between $750 and $1300..Good price for those who were successful.

[Mick_Marsh]

Good price for those who were successful.
I thought they were about market price. They are generally advertised for around $2k to $2.5k but generally re-sell in the civilian market for around $700 to $1000.
$1300 was a good price.


I've got my eye on a few that may be coming on the market soon.

[gazk]

The C&C now in my backyard was ARN 34-587, came from QLD probably one in the batch sold at Eagle Farm in Oct 2011. Needs a little work but generally in good condition:)

[Mick_Marsh]

The C&C now in my backyard was ARN 34-587, came from QLD probably one in the batch sold at Eagle Farm in Oct 2011. Needs a little work but generally in good condition:)
Which one did you get?
What are your first impressions of it?

[JayBoRover]

The C&C now in my backyard was ARN 34-587, came from QLD probably one in the batch sold at Eagle Farm in Oct 2011. Needs a little work but generally in good condition:)
If you realise you've made a huge mistake and before you spend truckloads of time and energy sorting out the "little work" that'll undoubtedly become a series of mammoth tasks ... well, you can always message me and I'll see if I can help you back out of this mess. :D

[Mick_Marsh]

If he fails to realise his mistake, John, I'll buy one on your behalf.
I've got a few more orders to fill before yours but I'm confident I'll find one for you.

[gazk]

Which one did you get?
What are your first impressions of it?

I got the second of the three auctioned. It is built like the proverbial brick outhouse. It sits rather high, but I might investigate moving the axle to above the springs when I dismantle it for refurbishment. It is rather wide for a box trailer - I had to remove the wheels to fit it on the 2.0m wide car trailer.
The previous owner told me that when he bought the trailer from a dealer in Brisbane it was fitted with new brake internals as well as bearings and the original lights were replaced with LEDs to get it registered.
Now I need to get something in the matching colour scheme to tow it with !:angel:

[Mick_Marsh]

Changing the axle location works if you're going to tow it with the family sedan.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/26.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/Corowa%202013/DSC_1820.jpg.html)
Change nothing on it and buy a Perentie 6x6 cargo.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Changing the axle location works if you're going to tow it with the family sedan.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/07/26.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/Corowa%202013/DSC_1820.jpg.html)
Change nothing on it and buy a Perentie 6x6 cargo.Change the wheels to Perentie or Defender 130 wheels and dump the Disco ones. ;)

[gazk]

If I reverse the axle I will keep its original wheels with the 750/16 tyres.
With the right towbar tongue I should be able to get it to sit level behind my Disco2 which has 2inch lift. Can always change it back to original configuration if a Perentie finds its way into the yard.

[87County]

Change the wheels to Perentie or Defender 130 wheels and dump the Disco ones. ;)

Couldn't let that go .....

Disco 1 wheels are clearly preferable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that there is no question that tubeless tyres of any practical size which match the towing vehicle may be used.

Sorry Diana :)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Couldn't let that go .....

Disco 1 wheels are clearly preferable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that there is no question that tubeless tyres of any practical size which match the towing vehicle may be used.

Sorry Diana :)Best you paint the whole combination with some civilian metalic colour so us military purists don't have apoplexy! :o

[87County]

Best you paint the whole combination with some civilian metalic colour so us military purists don't have apoplexy! :o

:D :D

I wouldn't want to give anybody that :)

[wpalmo]

Hi Warrick

If you keep watching the Minto auctions, I am happy to pick up and store until you arrange shipping over to WA. I have done this half a dozen times for Brian B (B52), but he has come over to pick up.

Diana
Thanks Diana. I will let you know if I end up winning anything in Minto. I really appreciate the offer though and would be happy to reciprocate should you find something on the West Coast that takes your fancy!
Regards Warrick.