Battery Discounts for Aulro members

[Noki 3.9]

SuperCharge Batteries will give a trade discount to Aulro members if they go to one of their warehouses and mention that they are members.
SuperCharge is a wholesaler so they are limited to supplying trade prices only from their warehouse facilities.
Locations are listed below ........ or go to www.supercharge.com.au
OFFICES AND BRANCHES

NEW SOUTH WALES - South
Unit 1, 216 Walters Road, Arndell Park, NSW 2148

HEAD OFFICE (02) 9672 7574
SYDNEY (02) 9672 7474
CANBERRA 0408 787 190
WOLLONGGONG 0418 642 424
WAGGAWAGGA 0408 693 958

NEW SOUTH WALES - North
97 Griffith Road, Lambton, NSW 2299

NEWCASTLE (02) 4956 1988
CENTRALCOAST 0407 907 711
TAMWORTH 0408 659 078
PORT MACQUARIE 0411 181 956

QUEENSLAND
23 Dulacca Street, Acacia Ridge, QLD 4110
BRISBANE (07) 3272 0688

GoldCoast 0419020145
CAIRNS (07) 4035 3711
ROCKHAMPTON 0438 870 564
MACKAY 0408 705 297

TOWNSVILLE (07) 4782 7177
WIDE BAY 0419 854 175


VICTORIA
545 Somerville Road, Sunshine, VIC 3020


MELBOURNE (03) 9310 1995
MOORABBIN (03) 9555 9000
BALLARAT 0417 385 934
SHEPPARTON (03) 5831 4633
GIPPSLAND (03) 5623 1808

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
39 Raymond Avenue, Bayswater WA 6053


PERTH (08) 9271 5211

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
5/12 Tikilara Street, Regency Park, SA, 5010


ADELAIDE (08) 8346 9112
DARWIN (08) 8947 1913

[JohnE]

Thats an interesting bit of info.
Went to the cold country last week from the sunny north coast and the battery in the pajero, decided it didn't like the cold and wouldn't work.
Saw a mate in Sydney on the way back home and he organised a new battery at trade rates a'Power crank' it cost me $72. ( retail $160) I didn't know this but batteries are unbranded, they put the sticker on when they are delivered. I suspect they all come from the same place.
You all think dealers and the like rob you blind, battery sellers are the same.
Is there a contact person for the trade rates, the battery in the Disco is starting to protest too.
( I know I should have got two down there,but she didn't ring me till I was halfway home to tell it was playing up)

john

[VladTepes]

Do they sell Optima's :?:

[MacMan]

Very handy to know! Thanks!

[Noki 3.9]

Hello ,
Some of you may know that I work as a Sales rep for Super Charge Batteries. After becoming a member of Aulro on the weekend I thought it was thought fair to offer trade discounts to fellow members. Members need to go to one of our warehouses listed previously and mention that they are members of Aulro to receive a discount.
SuperCharge is a wholesaler and manufacturer of high quality batteries. Because of our wholesale nature we are limited to supplying trade prices only from our warehouse facilities.

[Noki 3.9]

The answer to a previous qustion is no we do not sell Optima Batteries, To view the batteries that we sell please go to www.supercharge.com.au
Another answer to a statement mentioned is that not all batteries come from the same place, far from it. Supercharge for instance make nearly all of their product range including plates, seperators through to cases and caps etc. Some companies do however have differant brand names apart from the main brand name. Here is some info from our web site.......
Supercharge Batteries is a nationwide distributor of conventional and maintenance-free automotive, marine, deep cycle, motorcycle and SLA batteries. Supercharge belongs to the Ramcar Group, one of the leading fully-integrated battery manufacturers in Asia. Ramcar has invested in a modern, state-of-the art manufacturing facility that produces expanded metal calcium-calcium batteries. With this manufacturing back-up, Supercharge aims to be the best supplier of battery products in Australia.
Supercharge has been operating in Australia for 20 years.

Our products are distributed from 18 warehousing locations all over the country. This facilitates the servicing of regular customers' demand through consistent, scheduled service. Our experienced sales and service personnel will ensure that stocks are fresh and ready-to-use, product warranties are settled promptly on site, stocks are rotated and batteries are kept clean and presentable. All of these services enable our customers to efficiently service their own clienteles' needs.

Product Lines

A. Our Supercharge Classic line consists of our conventional heavy duty, low maintenance Supercharge types. Coming in wet and dry charged variants, the line features high-impact polypropylene plastic casing and polyethylene envelope separators. The Classic line has proven exceptional cold cranking performance, long shelf life, and excellent durability even in high temperatures.


B. Our Supercharge Gold line boasts of superior maintenance free technology. Its gas liquid separator cover design minimizes the evaporation of water or acid in normal operating conditions. Its calcium-calcium, expanded grids provide superior strength and resistance to heat, grid corrosion and overcharging. The plates are assembled with polyethylene envelope separators providing even more cranking power and preventing shorting. Its lightweight polypropylene plastic casing guarantees high-impact strength and excellent vibration resistance. With all of these, the Supercharge Gold is simply a safer, stronger, more reliable battery.

I hope this helps answer some of your questions.. cheers .. Brad
If you have any problems getting your discount ask them to get in contact with either Brad Chandler (GoldCoast rep) or Les Hicks (QLD State Manager) for information.
ps: Our warranties are now differant to what is displayed on the web site.
Classic range 30 months for cars, 24 months for 4wd , Gold range 36 months for cars, 24 months for 4wd. Classic is a conventional battery and the Gold is a truely maintenance free battery with higher cca.

[JohnE]

Now see what I have done after reading this yesterday, had no reason to drive up to the Gold coast , so went into Lismore for a few other things, went to Northern rivers Discount Batteries , Union St, lismore walked in and was staring at a range of Supercharge batteries, so I bought one ( the old one was beyond redemption)the price was excellent even though it wasn't at trade rates. But I told the bloke about your post here.
Keep up the good work.


john

[DEFENDERZOOK]

and i can vouch for the quality of supercharge batteries......

ive been running them in my cars for the last five or six years.......

they do seem to last longer than other brands....especially in the falcon which always seems to boil them dry....

[Maggot4x4]

How do the AC Delco batteries compare to the "Gold".

The specs seemed better.

[Noki 3.9]

Hello, Initially AC Delco batteries had better specs than the SuperCharge Gold but now the Gold is higher due to technical upgrades. Both batteries use an expanded calcium grid plate that is far better than a cast grid plateas used in most other brands. Expanded grids have a finer grain that allows current to travel more efficiently and also makes the grid stronger.
An example of the new cca rating for the Gold range is MF95D31R is now 760 cca the MF31-931 is 950 cca and MF80D26R is 670cca. Hope this helps..

[p38arover]

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
they do seem to last longer than other brands....especially in the falcon which always seems to boil them dry....

What model Falcon? I seem to recall that EA Falcons had a problem with high underbonnet temps causing battery boiling problems so they fitted an airscoop to supply outside air to the battery.

Ron

[JohnM]

Thanks for the advice, just picked up a SuperCharge Gold for my 97 Tdi Disco, from the guys at Newcastle, shall see how it goes, my old battery is starting to go, more noticeable now on cold mornings. Happy with the price (trade) and service.

[VladTepes]

bellaposs you'd be the ideal man to answer this.

Car was cranking away nicely on Friday evening (despite not starting which was not the battery's fault). This morning however, it's as flat as a tack. And I mean REALLY flat.

It's a Supercharge Gold. The battery charge indicator thingy looks red with black surrounds which seems to correlate to 'bettery needs checking' or some such.

What does this mean please. Will it hold charge if I recharge it ?

[Noki 3.9]

Hi, it would seem that your battery is just flat, and it should recharge with no worries. That red indicator is just a simplified hydrometer that changes colour depending on the amount of charge.
You should charge it for at least 12 hours but preferably 24.
It sounds like your car has flattened the battery through lots of cranking or worse case you have a short that flattened it overnight but hopefully not

[Dac]

Should read the back posts more often. Just bought a new battery, not from Supercharge - bugger!

[RoverOne]

Originally posted by Dac
Should read the back posts more often. Just bought a new battery, not from Supercharge - bugger!

Yeh me to, I should have known better.

Ended up with a Century, made in Australia, dealers in most places especially the bush if something goes wrong can replace any where.

Some Korean branded batteries etc are cheaper but six months later if they collapse can they be replaced under warranty at places like Omeo or Birdsville, good brands can.

[incisor]

this offer still valid?

guess who needs a new barttery very very shortly https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

if it is we might get mr one to add it to the discount forum https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[p38arover]

Don;t forget the 15% off storewide at KMart.

I priced an Exide Extreme N70Z for the County today. Normally $165 - with discount, $140.25

Ron

[matbor]

I'm after a Haze gel Battery

www.hazebattery.com
Model : hzy12-33ev

been quoted $149 !

[loanrangie]

Originally posted by p38arover
Don;t forget the 15% off storewide at KMart.

I priced an Exide Extreme N70Z for the County today. Normally $165 - with discount, $140.25

Ron

As an LROCV member i can get that for $99 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[p38arover]

Originally posted by loanrangie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(loanrangie)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-p38arover
Don;t forget the 15% off storewide at KMart.

I priced an Exide Extreme N70Z for the County today. Normally $165 - with discount, $140.25

Ron

As an LROCV member i can get that for $99 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

As a LROC (Sydney) member, can I too?

Ron

[loanrangie]

The discount is only for the Melbourne outlets but maybe if the club contacts them they might. worth a try.

[miker]

Bellaposs, can I tap into your expertise for a bit - have an Exide deepcycle at about 3 year old. Noticed at Xmas is seemed to run out of puff quicker than previous times. Only gets used a few times ayear. You reckon its sulphated up or jus " gettin old" https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ . Fair trip coming up so may be replacement time!

Miker

[weeds]

three years is not bad out of a battery, i have never done it but i believe you can break down the sulphation by hitting it a big charger 20+ amps

[Andrewpv01]

I have seen a few plans on the net for home made desulfators. They look fairly easy to make, but I haven't done on yet https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ . They appear to need to be left on the battery for an extended period though. Has anybody had any experience with them? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Andrew

[hiline]

Originally posted by weeds
three years is not bad out of a battery, i have never done it but i believe you can break down the sulphation by hitting it a big charger 20+ amps

my battery in my 130 is still the original from new Oct 2000

hows that for lucky https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

now i've mentioed that its sure to die now 8O

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by weeds
three years is not bad out of a battery, i have never done it but i believe you can break down the sulphation by hitting it a big charger 20+ amps



<span style="color:blue">there are different methods of desulfating a battery......</span>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>16.3. How do I recover sulfated batteries?

Here are three methods to try to recover permanently sulfated batteries:

16.3.1. Light Sulfation

Check the electrolyte levels and apply a constant current at 2% of the battery's RC or 1% of the AH capacity rating for 48 to 120 hours at 14.4 VDC or more, depending on the electrolyte temperature and capacity of the battery. Cycle (discharge to 50% and recharge) the battery a couple of times and test its capacity. You might have to increase the voltage in order to break down the hard lead sulfate crystals. If the battery gets above 125° F (51.7° C) then stop charging and allow the battery to cool down before continuing.

16.3.2. Heavy Sulfation

Replace the old electrolyte with distilled, deionized or demineralized water, let stand for one hour, apply a constant current at four amps at 13.8 VDC until there is no additional rise in specific gravity, remove the electrolyte, wash the sediment out, replace with fresh electrolyte (battery acid), and recharge. If the specific gravity exceeds 1.300, then remove the new electrolyte, wash the sediment out, and start over from the beginning with distilled water. You might have to increase the voltage in order to break down the hard lead sulfate crystals. If the battery gets above 125° F (51.7° C) then stop charging and allow the battery to cool down before continuing. Cycle (discharge to 50% and recharge) the battery a couple of times and test capacity. The sulfate crystals are more soluble in water than in electrolyte. As these crystals are dissolved, the sulfate is converted back into sulfuric acid and the specific gravity rises. This procedure will only work with some batteries.

16.3.3. Desulfators

Use a desulfator also known as a pulse charger. A list of some of the desulfator or pulse charger manufacturers is available on the Battery References and Information Links List athttp://www.batteryfaq.org.[/b][/quote]

[miker]

...bloody hell...interesting tech stuff Defenderzook. If i could grasp all that first read NASA wouldn't have knocked back my last application!

[Noki 3.9]

It is always interesting to read peoples thoughts and ideas on batteries. I have been working with batteries for 17 years and over this time I have heard some good stories and ideas. Sulpahation for example is one that is often misunderstood. Sulphation is almost always caused by a battery not being used, or let sit till it goes flat, or a discharged battery left and not recharged. Has anyone ever done that? If a battery is being used, it is contantly being recharged and sulphation does not occur, but if let sit then the paste on the plates starts to crystalise and the sponge like material starts to harden. Charging at high amps and even flushing can help to revive a sulphated battery depending on its state, but once it has started to sulphate it has lost some or all of its capacity. Basically if you have a battery that has sulphated dont waste time on it because your fighting an up hill battle. I probably think differantly to most because I have been around batteries all my life ( Dad was a battery man) but it is not worth being let down in the middle of no where because of a stupid battery!! Seriously dont believe stories about additives that if you add to your battery will increase its life and make your lights brighter etc.. these additives will void your warranty and then its up to the manufacturer of the additive to cover your warranty.
To answer the question re: the 3 year old deep cycle battery, it has had a good run and is most definatly running out of puff, nothing can help it, I would keep it for the camp lights and keep it charged up. All batteries not being used should be charged one a month for at least 12 hours. I work as a wholesaler and we let batteries sit on the shelf at outlets for 3 months then we return them to recharge them, but once a battery has been in service it must be recharged monthly to prevent sulphation.
I hope I havnt bored you guys too much with all that, cya.. Brad

[drivesafe]

Hi miker, you didn’t say where the battery is located.

If it’s in your vehicle and connected to the vehicle’s power supply when ever the vehicle is running, then it is being cycled which will limit the effects of sulphration but the way you use the battery, even a few times a year may have an effect on it’s life span.

If the battery is in a camper trailer or caravan and only gets recharged while on the few times a year that you use the trailer or van then you have done well to get 3 years out of it.

I’m with bellaposs on this one, in either case, the time and money you might waste on trying to extend it’s life would be far better spent on a new battery.

Hi bellaposs, it’s obvious you have not read collyn river’s books or as I suspect, you take his so called expertise as that of a snake charmer.

It’s good to see someone giving common sense advice on battery use.

Cheers.

[sclarke]

Do Supercharge do Deep Cycle????

[matbor]

To the battery guys, was reading some specs on some deep cycle batteries and some of them say, that max operating temperature is 50 deg's :!: Now I'm pretty sure the engine bays, especially in the V8's get well above 50 deg's !

Any idea why it would say that :?:

Matt.

[seqfisho]

Originally posted by matbor
To the battery guys, was reading some specs on some deep cycle batteries and some of them say, that max operating temperature is 50 deg's :!: Now I'm pretty sure the engine bays, especially in the V8's get well above 50 deg's !

Any idea why it would say that :?:

Matt.

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At that temp its time to stop for a beer :wink:

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by miker
...bloody hell...interesting tech stuff Defenderzook. If i could grasp all that first read NASA wouldn't have knocked back my last application!



<span style="color:blue">
i know what you mean.....
i just spent $70 and got a brand new one....90AH deep cycle....
the physical dimensions are the same as the original defender battery.....


but i think i may have killed the original battery by running it flat a few times
with the good ol' engel......</span>

[drivesafe]

Hi matbor, the theory is, wet cell batteries tolerate heat better that high tech batteries like AGMs.

The flip side is that AGMs are supposed to handle rough terrain better that wet cells.

They also have the advantage of being able to be fitted inside the cab if needed and mounted at any angle, EG on their side if needed.

For my money standard wet cells do their job and do it at a much lower cost, but each to his own.

Matt there’s a ton more to it than this but it’s a starting point.

Cheers

[drivesafe]

sorry double post :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

[miker]

Originally posted by drivesafe
Hi miker, you didn’t say where the battery is located.

Drivesafe, your on the money. The deep cycle is under the seat "snuggly" beside the cranker and being a dual setup is always on the charge. Probably gets used a few times ayear to varying degrees (10% - low voltage cut out). At three year, as mentioned, probably a good campsite backup till it dies. I reckon some of it's longevity is due to all that crust I shook off the plates in the Gulf last year!! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[drivesafe]

Hi again miker, before you get another battery, try checking all your cable and cable connections.

One of the most common cause for batteries failing to charge properly is to low a charge voltage getting to the batteries and the most common reasons for this is inadequate sized cable and dirty or corroding connections and with your batteries being so far from the alternator, you need to keep an eye on cable and connections to keep the voltage drop to a minimum.

Cheers.

[miker]

No dramas. It charges fine (all cable is battery lead gear) Drop in charge from altenator to batt is quite low. Had the opportunity to pick up an old pedal power dynamo at a garage sale a few moths ago, it was from an old Traeger radio - the cook said she wouldn't pedal the bloody thing so another chance goes begging. :wink:

[drivesafe]

Well then miker, time to give bellaposs a phone call I think.

Cheers.

[Noki 3.9]

Hey Zook that battery was a bargain, what breed was it out of curiousity?
You did really well to get a battery of that cap for that price.

Hey Matbor... what type of battery were you looking up specs on? That was an interesting bit of info re: the temp . I agree with Drive Safe, I would stick to a wet cell battery. The AGM/SLA batteries have there good points but do have some bad points, such as being fussy when being charged. Some of the maunfactureres of these batteries wont do a warranty unless you have a charging system that meets their strict requirements. Before buying one of these batteries ask plenty of questions and try to weed out the truth from the bull that some sales people will try to give you . cya

[seqfisho]

Hi Bellaposs,

Looking at getting a deep cycle for the second battery in the disco, tried to look up the specs but the Supercharge web site is a bit screwed and nothing comes up.

Any idea how much $ I will be up for, and what capacity/size will fit in the battery holder on the passenger side of a D1?

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by bellaposs
Hey Zook that battery was a bargain, what breed was it out of curiousity?
You did really well to get a battery of that cap for that price.






<span style="color:blue">
its an apollo......my driver got it direct from the battery guy at his work...
and thats all i was charged for it.....


funny thing is though....i never got a receipt........</span>

[VladTepes]

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[matbor]

Originally posted by bellaposs
Hey Zook that battery was a bargain, what breed was it out of curiousity?
You did really well to get a battery of that cap for that price.

Hey Matbor... what type of battery were you looking up specs on? That was an interesting bit of info re: the temp . I agree with Drive Safe, I would stick to a wet cell battery. The AGM/SLA batteries have there good points but do have some bad points, such as being fussy when being charged. Some of the maunfactureres of these batteries wont do a warranty unless you have a charging system that meets their strict requirements. Before buying one of these batteries ask plenty of questions and try to weed out the truth from the bull that some sales people will try to give you . cya

Have been using a Apollo battery, but the model I used no longer exists and can't find a replacement for it from the same guys (It's been in for 2 to 3 years) !!

As you can see it fits into a rather small area, so space is at a premium.
http://disco.bordignons.net/images/dualbatterysetup/100_0859%20(Small).JPG

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

http://disco.bordignons.net/images/dualbatterysetup/100_0861%20(Small).JPG

I just use it to run my fridge when I'm not in the car driving and over night camp stays, find it will run the fridge overnight and some camp lights.

I was thinking a GEL one would be better than the one I used in the past, but noticed the temp rating.

model hzy12-33ev @ 33a/h Haze Gel sealed lead acid battery. rrp $149

http://www.hazebattery.com/6&12VGel/default.htm
http://www.hazebattery.com/6&12VGel/page10.htm
http://www.hazebattery.com/6&12VGel/page11.htm

Was looking at either Haze or Geltech.

The size of the previous battery was :
Dimensions :
length 210
width 130
height 180 (to top of terminals)

Matt.

[weeds]

gee not much room, pitty its not a bigger space, 33amp/h is not much, although i have 200amp/h of storage and a solar panel which most would think is a bit over the top

[matbor]

I know it isn't much room, could make more, but can't be bothered... it's just to run the fridge, and if I had a van/camper trailer most of the power would be in that anyhow.

matt.

[Noki 3.9]

We have a battery just like that . Its called a US U145. Its a 45 amp hr and made in USA. Give our Melbourne office a call for a price.
(03)93101995

[matbor]

Cool, thanks... will call tomorrow.

What brand is it ? Any specs https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Thanks
Matt.

[Noki 3.9]

The battery is made by our factory in Los Angels, USA, we usually market it under the name of Motolite, which is one of the SuperCharge Battery brands, it is the same dimensions as yours and looks identical to the pics I have seen of yours. The only specs I have at hand are that its 12 volt and 45 amp/hr @20 hr rate. Remember to mention that Les Hicks (QLD state man ) and my self ( Brad ) are offering discounts to Aulro members .

[seqfisho]

Picked up a 90amp hour deep cycle jobbie for $99 inc from the Acacia Ridge branch today and the service and price was fantastic, wont go anywere else for batteries now and would advise everyone to give them a go.

[matbor]

Went down to Supercharge Moorabbin, Vic on saturday and got my Deep Cycle battery, go see Luis Vanegas (Manager) top bloke and give me a nice discount off the battery.

Matt.

[drivesafe]

Just bumping this post for cameron

[VladTepes]

bellaposs what battery would I need as a starting (i.e. 'normal') battery for my Defender Tdi ?

I think mine is cactus.

Now given the ute is not working I just need a way to get over to your head officeon the southside. 8O

[seqfisho]

Originally posted by VladTepes
bellaposs what battery would I need as a starting (i.e. 'normal') battery for my Defender Tdi ?

I think mine is cactus.

Now given the ute is not working I just need a way to get over to your head officeon the southside. 8O

N70Z I think is the normal starter, but who says you have to be normal https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[weeds]

hey segfisho

what are the contact details for the branch where you brought your battery, i'm up for another deep cycle. $99 for a 9 amper sounds good.

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by seqfisho+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seqfisho)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-VladTepes
bellaposs what battery would I need as a starting (i.e. 'normal') battery for my Defender Tdi ?

I think mine is cactus.

Now given the ute is not working I just need a way to get over to your head officeon the southside. 8O

N70Z I think is the normal starter, but who says you have to be normal https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

OK so what (if any) would be the real world advantages to me of selecting the Supercharge Gold MF95D31R over the supercharge Classic N70ZZ ? Obvioulsy the latter would be cheaper and the warranty is 24 months on both.

Now anyone happen to be coming past Acacia Ridge this afternoon ? Especially anyone whose coming to the LROC meeting tonight ??

[adm333]

Funnily enough I had battery problems this morning and had to jump start the Rangie.

I remembered this thread and was going to try and dig it up again today.

Unfortunately I won't get time to go to Acacia Ridge this afternoon

:cry:

[seqfisho]

Originally posted by weeds
hey segfisho

what are the contact details for the branch where you brought your battery, i'm up for another deep cycle. $99 for a 9 amper sounds good.

Somewhere earlier in this thread, the guys are great, I gave them the dimensions of the batt tray in the disco and said I wanted the biggest cap for that space, they were more than helpfull and a great price :wink:

QUEENSLAND
23 Dulacca Street, Acacia Ridge, QLD 4110
BRISBANE (07) 3272 0688

[weeds]

right O, who was down there today, I hear the eftpos machine was down!!!!

as soon as i mentioned this site he new all about us, yep good prices just miles away for me

100Ah $110
120Ah $120

vlad, you could square up for the rims if your heading down that way

[VladTepes]

AAAAAaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh.


Sorry Weeds - I was down that way but left before I saw your message.
PM me on that issue.

As regards the battery thing:

I went to the address provided. It was closed and deserted.

Luckily there was a small sign redirecting me to:

New Qld Address:

128 Gardens Drive
Willawong Qld.

(not too far from the old place).

Anyway they quoted me:

Supercharge Classic N70ZZ $90
Supercharge Gold MF95D31R $99 (retail from elsewhere is $143)

With such a small differential I naturally took the latter, maintenace free option. It really is a PITA checking battery fluid levels where they sit under the seat in a Defender. Now I won't have to. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


THANK YOU BELLAPOSS :!: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[adm333]

WHHAAT

You must have missed my post as well then

DOH

[Noki 3.9]

Hello https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ First off I would like to advise all QLD memebers that Supercharge has relocated to new bigger premises. We are now at 128 Gardens Drive Willawong, 4110. Phone 07 32720688. The new place is only a couple of K from the old one. Head down Learoyd Rd towards Inala and left into Paradise rd, and Gardens is second road on the left, if you hit the dirt road you missed it.
The difference between the classic batteries and the Gold range is that the Gold is a truely maintenance free battery with more cranking and more plates per cell. MF95D31R 760cca, 17 plates ppc, N70ZZ 660cca, 14 ppc. I use the Gold series in my work truck because I have a small fridge and I wanted as much power as I could get , also being maintenance free I no longer have to worry about the mechanic over filling the batteries with water when I got a service done (he did it everytime).
Our staff are always happy to answer any questions that you might have, so dont be shy and give them a call. Warehouse hours are 7.30am to 4 pm Mon to Fri......cheers

[weeds]

need the battery sometime before easter, hopefully i will be down that way before then, good excuse to take a company car for a run

[Utemad]

I gave them the dimensions of the batt tray in the disco and said I wanted the biggest cap for that space

Are they still giving this discount? I need a deep cycle battery for my Disco 2nd battery.

seqfisho, was it a deep cycle you bought? If so which battery did you get?

[seqfisho]

Are they still giving this discount? I need a deep cycle battery for my Disco 2nd battery.

seqfisho, was it a deep cycle you bought? If so which battery did you get?

Yeah it was a Motorlite (USA) 90ah deep cycle but it ****e itself the day we went to leave for outback Qld, luckily they covered it under warranty (6months) and I purchased in Jan but despite it being Sept they swapped it for a new one today (8 months after purchase) so despite the inconvienience on the day we were to leave (had to buy a replacement from Batteryworld the morning we were leaving as Supercharge wern't open) the service has been excellent.

[Blknight.aus]

for those of you with the want...

check out the jaycar battery zapper, if the batteries not too badly dead and holds voltage without a load reasonabley (a bout 3 days after a charge) well try one of these...

my old deep cycle fridge battery was down to only being able to run my fridge for about a day as aposed to the threeish before the low volt cut out turned it all off...

I borrowed one and after sitting on the battery for about 3 weeks the battery now holds the fridge for 2 days..

half the cost of the battery and if it gets me another year out of every battery Im happy

[DirtyDawg]

Would you recomend the amptech for winching..I want to get the dual battery setup (drivesafe) as to maintain current for winching and a engel would the amptech be any good?

[Utemad]

check out the jaycar battery zapper, if the batteries not too badly dead and holds voltage without a load reasonabley (a bout 3 days after a charge) well try one of these...

https://secure4.vivid-design.com.au/jaycar2005/productView.asp?ID=KC5427&CATID=&keywords=battery+zapper&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=

[Quiggers]

I don't know if this is relevant, but the battery in the X1/9 has been in there since new, a Magnetti Marelli, circa 1976. Should be a museum piece by now but works fine. (The exhaust system is also the original item, without problems).

[Utemad]

I picked up my deep cycle battery today from Bellaposs himself.

Thanks guys.

[Michael2]

Well I called Super Charge in Moorabin today to get a price on the Maintenance Free Super Charge Gold battery to suit the Defender. I needed a bettery for the SIII, but figured I'd get a new one for the Defender and put one of the Defender batteries in the SIII.

I'm not sure the guy in the Moorabin store knew about the discount, but when I mentioned it he quoted me $135 for the battery (RRP $195).

I went to get it, but found it was too much of a squeeze with the 2nd battery and the relay and the SC80 and a fuse box under the seat. I got a smaller 670CCA battery and he tested the 2 batteries I had in there. Both of the batteries that came with the Defender were deep cycles and one was a bit of a dud- no wonder I needed to switch in the 2nd battery to start the car if it'd been sitting for >3 days, not to mention that prolonged winching got a little slow. Anyway, the good Deep Cycle battery was too tall to fit in the 2nd battery posi, so I bought a 60 AH Deep cycle battery too. All up $200 :D for the 2 batteries.

I'm very happy with the service, and I'm set to go winching tomorrow - (hopefully I won't need the winch).

I'm pretty sure the 90AH Deep Cycle will be okay to crank the 2.25 petrol.

[jsttry]

I've been looking for a replacement for the County. Currently has a 700CCA in there from when I brought it with a smaller 270CCA for the second aux battery (the 270CCA is actually the same size as the 700CCA).

Went and got a Bosch B67 but when I got it home found it was only 480CCA. Did some browsing and found the Century recommended model for the County is also only 480CCA.

What models are suitable for the County 110?

[Noki 3.9]

Here are a few types from the SuperCharge range of batteries
STARTING TYPE
MF50, 600 cca, 235L, 172W, 206TH...TH= total height
MF80D26L, 670 cca, 265L, 172W, 228TH
MF95D31R, 760 cca, 305L, 172W, 228TH
MF31-931, 950cca, 330L, 172W, 235TH

DEEPCYLE/STARTING hybrid
MRV50,650cca, 80ah, 265L, 172W, 28TH
MRV70,700cca, 105a/h, 305L, 172W, 228TH

[GrahamH]

Thanks Brad for starting this thread up. I came across it as I found the existing start battery dying in my V8 Disco - if the vehicle sits for a week it needs a charger on the battery to be able to start reliably and it's been using water which often indicates imminent failure, probably due to rising internal resistance and hence greater heating.

The old start battery was a Century fitted in 2000 by the previous owner so I can't complain about its life.

I visited the Supercharge warehouse in Tikalara St Regency Park in Adelaide and they were happy to give me a trade price on a start battery and an auxiliary battery, (the existing one is serviceable but losing capacity so I'll relegate it to the camper trailer).

I decided to go with expanded Calcium grid technology batteries for both applications and fitted a Supercharge Gold MF75D23R ($161.26) for the start battery - as is listed on the Supercharge web site for Series I Disco's. It's rated at 65AH and 610 CCA.

The only hiccup was that they gave me a D23Left with the terminals round the wrong way on the initial visit and I didn't discover the problem until I tried to fit it at the weekend - I had to make a return visit on Monday and they happily swapped it for a D23Right.

For the auxiliary battery I chose to replace the Century 50AH deep cycle battery also installed in 2000 with an Allrounder which is also Calcium and is rated as both deep cycle and starting (as opposed to the Amp-Tech which is a deep cycle battery) on their recommendation - it's a better choice if I need to use it to jumper to the start battery in an emergency. It has a useful pair of bolt posts (8mm I think) beside each lead terminal for attaching eye-lugs.

I was able to shoe-horn an MRV50 ($206.69) which is rated at 80AH and 650 CCA into the passenger-side space - it only just fitted though as you can see in the photo.

I spent Saturday fabricating some new hold-down frames from 20 x 20mm steel angle and help from my mate with the stick welder, and I had them powder coated. I picked them up this morning and finished off the job this evening. I used a paint aerosol cap over the +12V terminal on the auxiliary battery to keep it safe until I find something better.

I'm quite pleased with the way it all turned out and I was able to add 60% to the capacity of the auxiliary battery into the bargain. The Calcium batteries are a bit less tolerant to high under-bonnet temperatures than conventional batteries but I think it's a risk worth taking with the fairly high temperatures generated by the V8 engine. I'll let you know if I have any premature failures.

And, yes, I like using the marine isolators on the ground terminals - I've used them ever since I had a wiring loom fire in my Series IIA Landy back in ChCh 20 years ago. They may be inclined to be an unreliable connection (although I haven't found this to be the case, myself) but the benefit of being able to isolate the battery quickly and without tools in the event of a short developing is worth the risk in my opinion (Sod's Law - the only time I've ever needed an isolator was when I didn't have one fitted of course!).

Thanks, Brad, for your info and for taking my phone call from the warehouse to confirm the discount.

[harry]

thanks graham for the post, i have just moved all the junk out of the way in my d1 to fit the second battery, and i too have a main battery with the second set of wing nut posts as the main batt. still not sure what to do with the second batt, but for now it will be the old batt from one of the other cars.
am using an SC40 from TRAXIDE TRONICS [drivesafe on this forum] to control the loads.

[lokka]

Graham
i fitted a MRV87 and a MF 31930 into the front of my rangie these are the bigger case batterys and required a bit of shoe horning but fitted no probs the allrounder cost me 185 and the goldie cost me 170 i got them from the wearhouse here in newcastle sofar the goldie is goin good tho im a bit sus on the allrounder as it seems to be a bit lacking on what its spose to do as i ran the fridge on it the other day and it only ran the fridge overnight and was flattened so im doing a few more tests on it and if it dont passits goin back for a new one :D:D:D

[GrahamH]

Hi Lokka,
I'm not been able to fit a longer battery into the passenger side due to the ignition module and coil support bracket which has been relocated to the radiator end of the space, but I presume you don't have that impediment.

So the MRV87 is rated at 120Ampere-Hours ie you can (theoretically) draw 120A for 1 Hour or 1A for 120hours. This isn't quite true in the real world since very high discharge rates tend to reduce the overall capacity a bit so discharging a real 120AH battery at 120A might actually cause it to become fully discharged in, say, 50 minutes. That's why the capacity rating is usually specified alongside a nominal discharge current or a time which implies a discharge rate.

On this last point, the Supercharge web-site has me confused as it specifies the MRV87's "20AH" capacity as 120AH. Perhaps someone can explain the use of AH (Ampere-Hours) in this context for me, but I suspect it really means at the 20 Hour rate the capacity is 120AH. In other words, discharging the battery at 6 Amperes, the battery will survive for 20 hours and will therefore have a capacity of 6A X 20H or 120AH.

So, I think that if you discharge this battery at a rate near 6A, you can expect a capacity of 120AH. If you discharge it at a higher rate, it will likely exhibit a lower capacity - for example at 12A it might only last for 9.5Hours (rather than the 10 Hours you might expect) so you get an effective capacity (at that discharge rate) of 12A X 9.5H = 114AH.

To get to your fridge (finally) my point is that the actual capacity will depend to some extent on the current drawn by the fridge (as well as the battery temperature for that matter). I'd hazard a guess that an average fridge (if there is such a beast) runs at 4 to 6 amps when the compressor is running, and it doesn't run all the time. So the current draw of the fridge is also going to depend on the thermostat setting and how full the fridge is and how well thermally insulated it is.

To asses the capacity of the battery with any kind of accuracy, you need to measure the current draw with an ammeter (let's assume 5A) and sit with the fridge for a while using a stop watch and assess its duty cycle (compressor On time divided by time from compressor switch-on through switch-Off to next switch-On). Let's assume the compressor runs for 5 minutes and one complete cycle lasts 10 minutes (so I don't have to use a calculator). That's 5min/10min which is 1/2 or 50% duty cycle.

Now drawing 5A at 50% duty cycle is equivalent to drawing 2.5A continuously (5A X 1/2 duty cycle = 2.5A).

So drawing 2.5A (average) from a 120AH battery, the battery should last for 120AH / 2.5A = 48 Hours. (In fact allowing for the on/off nature of the fridge and the fact that the current draw is lower than the 20Hour rate of 6A, it should really last a smidge longer.)

Incidentally, another slight complication is defining where the end-point is: is it where the battery terminal voltage drops to zero? I doubt it. Or is it at ~10.8V which is more likely - can someone confirm this? That's going to affect the apparent capacity a bit as well.

So if my guesstimate figures are anywhere near right, and your 120AH battery is lasting less than 24Hours, I'd say there's something wrong with it.

Sorry that was so long-winded but there are quite a few complicating factors along the way.

[GrahamH]

One point I alluded to in the earlier post, which will affect battery life, is the under-bonnet temperature. Since I have a thermocouple probe for my multi-meter I decided to do some quick checks today after the run up Shepherds Hill Road.

With the engine switched off and zero airflow, which I reckon will be worst case, I measured a general under-bonnet temperature of ~65ºC. The driver's side start batter was at ~45ºC and the passenger-side aux battery was at ~50ºC. The radiator header tank was at ~80ºC incidentally. This is for a 3.9Lt V8 running on LPG. I'll let you know how the batteries survive.

Incidentally most general use electronic components are rated to 60ºC. This means that accessory electronics devices I've fitted like my Electronics Australia (JayCar kit) aux battery manager are running right at their temperature limit. That's one reason I'm thinking of swapping it out for a Traxide controller which I'm guessing will be built with higher rated components suitable for automotive use.

[dobbo]

I got quoted $290 from the local battery place for a battery for my D2

Got this deal mentioned to me by Lokka

Called up my local Supercharge depot

$175 for a Supercharge Gold with the 36month warrantee

Bargain

Now I can actually get into my car and drive it without using key codes to disarm it.

[FenianEel]

Got a 950cca "Gold" for my Td5 D2, from Supercharge this morning for $160 :D

Great blokes too.

[isuzurover]

I need a new battery or two - does anyone (Noki?) have an address and/or contact person for the Perth Warehouse?

[HangOver]

I need a new battery or two - does anyone (Noki?) have an address and/or contact person for the Perth Warehouse?

This was on the first page of this post:
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
39 Raymond Avenue, Bayswater WA 6053
PERTH (08) 9271 5211

Can you let us know how you get on I am due a battery change soon,
Thanks

[DiscoDiver]

Got a 950cca "Gold" for my Td5 D2, from Supercharge this morning for $160 :D

Great blokes too.

FenianEel, Whats the model number of the battery you bought? I checked the website for my 2003 V8 Disco and it gave me Gold MF75D23R which is 610cca.

Cheers Mark

[stevo]

well I'm glad I finally got the computer troubles fixed after 3 days of swearing and cursing and just about at the stage of pounding the keyboard through the desk with my head and find this post the battery in the car is on its last legs plus need a battery for the boat as well will be paying the gold coast branch a visit next week.

Thanks to the guy's offering the discount

[FenianEel]

FenianEel, Whats the model number of the battery you bought? I checked the website for my 2003 V8 Disco and it gave me Gold MF75D23R which is 610cca.

Cheers Mark

Mark pretty sure it was this one
MF31-931, 950cca, 330L, 172W, 235TH

Yours will be different, being a V8 though ;)

[rrturboD]

Do they sell Optima's :?:

I get them for AULRO members nationwide. I have found that the freight to all the southern states (and Brisbane) is pretty much the same.

For techo stuff look at www.optimabatteries.com.au (http://www.optimabatteries.com.au)
For $ pm me, with your location, and I'll see what I can do for you. (typically discount seems to be about 12%)

[isuzurover]

This was on the first page of this post:
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
39 Raymond Avenue, Bayswater WA 6053
PERTH (08) 9271 5211

Can you let us know how you get on I am due a battery change soon,
Thanks

Thanks for that. Will do. I just noticed that the only one of my 3 batteries that is still working 100% is a N70 sized Supercharge Gold 750CCA. I bought it in 2003!!!

I recall I paid $115. I bet they are more expensive now - even with the AULRO discount.

[5teve]

did you end up getting a battery isuzu? i have to try and get one today... just wondered who you spoke to?

Thanks

Steve

[5teve]

Got a 950cca "Gold" for my Td5 D2, from Supercharge this morning for $160 :D

Great blokes too.

hmm... looks like us WA boys get stung a bit more for the batteries.. helpful guys tho!

just had a price of $197.50 for the same model.. does this still sound reasonable?

Thanks

Steve

[FenianEel]

That' still a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else I was quoted. ;)

[Cool95]

Anyone fitted a Supercharge MF95D31 760CCA lately and how much did you pay for it?

Thanks

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I bought two of these recently
Supercharge Batteries - Car Batteries, Maintenance, Expanded Grid Technology (http://linux.supercharge.com.au/product_detail.php'seq=78)
for $190 ea

[5teve]

similar to the battery i got for the boat for the dual install on that.. they are not as good as true deep cycle... but 120ah @20a is pretty sweet! and they are better than normal crank batteries..

marine batteries seem to be quite good for most things to be honest! :)

by the way.. cant believe how much difference the new battery has made to cranking... the old one must of been stuffed! (the 950cca supercharge!)

Thanks

Steve

[EchiDna]

discount offer is still good - well it was at their Sunshine store in Melbourne when the old man bought one recently :)

[George130]

Just replaced both of mine for a total of $310. Secondary is a deep cycle to:)

[cewilson]

discount offer is still good - well it was at their Sunshine store in Melbourne when the old man bought one recently :)

Same in Brisbane - I got looked after whilst passing thorugh about a month ago. :)

[British Bulldog]

Hey
Just went to Sunshine warehouse and got rather rude treatment from the guy behind the counter. When mentioned about the discount he just looked blankly at me I showed him a copy of the first post you made and he read it and throw it back at me and said that means nothing and gave me a measly $5 off the retail price. I could have bought it from Super Cheap for the same price without the travel. So is this discount still going or not?

[isuzurover]

I bought one in December 2008. No problem getting the discount.

Btw - my Original Supercharge Gold purchased in 2003 is still going strong!!!

[pohm66]

Bought a new battery for Grimmy last weekend from the depot at Willawong on Brisbane Southside and the guys knew about the AULRO discount, good service and even disposed of my old battery...:BigThumb:

[p38arover]

Has anyone bought recently in NSW? I need a new battery for the P38A.

[Utemad]

I picked up two new batteries for the Disco from the Brisbane warehouse this week and they still do the AULRO discount.

Just fitted them and the motor sure turns over quick :)

[d2dave]

I picked up two new batteries for the Disco from the Brisbane warehouse this week and they still do the AULRO discount.

Just fitted them and the motor sure turns over quick :)

What size and type and what did they cost?

Dave.

[Utemad]

I got an MF80D26R for $111 +gst as the starting battery

Plus a D70Z deep cycle for $140 +gst for the second battery.

The D70Z is a perfect fit in the spare spot in a V8 Disco1. Once you remove the fold down handle the radiator bracket fits nicely.

[d2dave]

Is a D70 the same size as an N70?

Dave.

[Utemad]

I assume so.

Their website says 304L x 174W x 200H

[igould]

Pleased to say the Supercharge deal is still happening.
Just picked up a 610CCA maintenance free with 36 month warranty for $122. I expected closer to $200.

Thanks Phil at R&E Auto Parts in Glen Waverley!

Ian

[wardy1]

Hi mate,
Just wondering if you're still with the company. I called the Sunshine branch today, they didn't seem to know about the discount being offered? Is this still current (pardon the pun).
The price I was quoted for a Dual Purpose Allrounder was the same as I can get from a retail supplier in Clifton Hill???

[The ho har's]

Interesting our 2nd battery died in the 130...maybe a PM would answer the question;)


Mrs hh:angel:

[Killer]

I got a trade price from the Brisbane warehouse the other week, by mentioning AULRO. $135 for a N70 + tax.

Cheers, Mick.

[Utemad]

Brisbane warehouse gave me trade when mentioning AULRO a few months ago.

[Hoges]

Brisbane warehouse gave me trade when mentioning AULRO a few months ago.


Which warehouse pls... need a couple of " all rounders" for my slowly developing camper trailer

cheers

[Utemad]

Their warehouse is in Willawong near Acacia Ridge off Paradise Road.
Address is in the phonebook.
Only open weekdays.

[Hoges]

Went and saw the chaps @ Supercharge warehouse in Bris.... helpful, knowledgeable and a (very!) generous AULRO discount on 2 x MRV70 "All Rounder" batteries for the camper trailer :D
thanks to all for the info.
cheers

[Quarks]

Called the Sydney place this morning after deciding to replace the batteries in the Disco & Defender (getting tired). They didn't know about the discount and referred on to a reseller. :(

[incisor]

pretty sure it was only a known at the brisbane warehouse and you had to go there in person..

[cal415]

The Newcastle guys know about it too, i got a couple of batterys with a good discount at the end of last year from them.

[mojo]

FYI, Supercharge are still doing the AULRO discount. Picked up a Gold MF95D31 from the Brisbane warehouse a few weeks ago, from memory $158.