NSW Rego

[nicholascummins]

Hi I have just moved to Sydney from Melbourne where I had my 57 series 1 on club plates. It has a holden grey motor in it which runs great. I have been told in Sydney I can't register it without changing to a different steering column brakes etc etc etc This was told to me via an engineer who the mechanic got involved as it has a non original motor. Any suggestions as this seems extreem and expensive. I'm thinking of finding an original engine to put back in so I don't have to get an engineers certificate. Anyone know where I can buy one?

Cheers NIck

[nicholascummins]

Hi I have just moved to Sydney from Melbourne where I had my 57 series 1 on club plates. It has a Holden engine which I managed to get it registered with in Vic. Now that I am in Sydney I needed to do a blue slip where the mechanic said I need a engineers certificate as it has a non original motor. The engineer says it needs a collapsable steering column and different brakes etc etc to get registered.

I am thinking of putting an original engine back in it so I can get it registered up here as doing everything else doesn't make sense and would be too expensive. does anyone know of an original engine I could buy? Or how much they usually sell for?

cheers Nick

[crackers]

Why would it need a different steering column, brakes, etc? They weren't fitted when new so why demand them now? I'd be asking questions.

[Dobby]

I bought my Series 111 109 wagon from Victoria and got it registered in N.S.W. about three years ago. It also has a Holden engine (186) and I had no problems with getting a blue slip. I think you're only allowed to have a non original engine which has a specific amount of more power (I can't remember what the actual figure is) without getting an engineers certificate. I'd imagine that would be the case if you had a V8 installed or similar.


I'd be going to another mechanic if I was you.

[p38arover]

Threads merged. Don't ask the same question in multiple areas.

Where are you located? You might need a LR friendly inspection station.

I don't think you can run historic registration (Club plates) in NSW if the vehicle is modified with a different engine. If you are after club rego, I think the inspections are done by the club inspector.

[alan48]

Hi,
I have recently put my 57 S1 109 onto club plates with no engineer requirement. It has a Holden 179 in it but it did have the larger lwb brakes--no need to do anything else as this was all that was required when these conversions were type approved years ago--mine had previously been regoed with the Holden engine back in 1999 so it was no trouble here to get it done again--I even asked the RMS(ex RTA) and that is what they said. There is no need for a change of steering column.
Suggest you contact KLR in Sth Windsor as they know all the rules and also do blue slips.

[nicholascummins]

Thanks. I'm in Marrickville.

[30t of coolness]

Holden motors into Landies have been around for years with a couple of Dealerships offering them fitted off the lot. Never had to do engineers reports ever! May have changed the law in the last few years (NSW the revenue state) but can't see your's needing a report.

[Scouse]

I have recently put my 57 S1 109 onto club plates with no engineer requirement. It has a Holden 179 in it How did you manage that?

Historic vehicles - Get a NSW registration - Registration - Roads - Roads and Maritime Services (http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/registration/get-nsw-registration/historic-vehicles.html)
Historic vehicles must be as close to original condition as possible, with no alterations except for safety features such as seat belts and turn indicators or period accessories and options, if desired.

[JDNSW]

I suspect that some have successfully argued that the Holden conversion was a period accessory! After all, conversions to Holden engines almost certainly started by the mid fifties. Alternatively, the inspector may not have realised that it was not the original engine, or at least thought nobody else would realise that.

John

[Slunnie]

You may find this interesting from the RTA 1979 guidelines. You shouldn't need engineer approval with the Holden motor.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/612.jpg

[alan48]

Hi,
as mentioned there were so many converted to Holdens even not long after the time of initial rego as soon as farmers in particular realised how slow the diesels were and expensive to repair/replace that Holdens became very common, and hence no issue for rego and as the age of the motors fits well with the age of the cars they are fine for club rego and many have been regoed this way and even as per the RTA guidelines --so there is no problem. Am also sure Lots of Landies can verify as she is a conditional registrar fro the Sydney club. It does not mean you can have a hot rod but a normal conversion is fine, and as said some dealers even offered them.