D3/D4 hyd jack adapter expression of interest

[LandyAndy]

Hi Guys.
There is a 6T Kinchrome Hyd jack that looks like it suits our D4s for lift and min height.Its on special for $79.95 until sunday,see this thread.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/222778-new-jack-option-4.html

If anybody is interested in having a D3/D4 replacement head made post your interest here.Next time my boy is home I will get him to make me one on his lathe,will make extras based on the aprox numbers posted here.

No commit to buy as yet,the head will only be made to suit my jack(hopefully unscrew the old,screw on the new),unsure of the price,I wont be marking up what it costs my boy in material/tooling wear/tear.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Started a new thread,expressions of interest for a custom made head to suit the D3/D4 to suit this Kinchrome jack ONLY.
See here.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/224439-d3-d4-hyd-jack-adapter-expression-interest.html
Andrew

[LRD414]

I'm interested but will need to find a stockist for the jack in Brisbane.

Scott

[LandyAndy]

All tool sellers have Kinchrome,even Bunnings these days.
I buy plenty of Kinchrome tools,they are VERY good quality.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Here is a link to the cattledog;);););)
Kincrome Heroic Tool Sale June to Sept 2015 | (http://www.bisco.com.au/?flip_pong=kincrome-heroic-tool-sale-june-to-sept-2015)
Andrew

[RickO]

Hi Andrew,

Count me in for one please!

Rick

[letherm]

Hi Andrew.

I'm interested in an adapter as well. How would this work? Would the existing top of the jack screw off and the adapter replace it or would the adapter sit on top and if so, how would it stay in place? Sorry but I don't know much about these things and would like to understand how it would work. :)

Martin

[l00kin4]

Hi Andrew,

Count me in please

Thanks,
David

[letherm]

I'm interested but will need to find a stockist for the jack in Brisbane.

Scott


I did a search and got this ebay result - note the collection info:

Collection:
NEW FREE Click & Collect at Woolworths & BIG W
Est. available to collect by Mon. 7 Sep.
Select a store

Kincrome Hydraulic Bottle Jack Safe Working Load 6000kg K12052 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kincrome-Hydraulic-Bottle-Jack-Safe-Working-Load-6000Kg-K12052-/191533879851)

I don't know anything about the seller at all and I am not recommending them they just popped up in the search. Just posted this for info about possible collection method using Ebay if you're having trouble finding a local dealer. I've heard of this pickup option but not seen or used it.

HTH
Martin

[eddy]

That sounds great,put me down for one of the adapters.
Cheers
Geoff

[Shortyesquire]

One for me please. Thanks for the catalogue and eBay links.

[RHS58]

+1 thank you.

Ron

[sctsprin]

Count me in too please

[winaje]

And another one.

[guthrie]

+1 for me please

[strydes]

+1 please

Maybe a dumb question or answered in the original thread but will that jack fit in our tool cubby in the back replacing the normal jack?

[Nicky]

+1 please

Maybe a dumb question or answered in the original thread but will that jack fit in our tool cubby in the back replacing the normal jack?

.. and could somebody please help with what/how to modify the top of this to fit the jack point hole.

[jliquorish]

Please put me down for one. I am in Melbourne.

[Nod]

+1 pretty please.... thank you!

[jliquorish]

Any reason you are choosing a 6T instead of the lighter 4T or 3T?

[LRD414]

.. and could somebody please help with what/how to modify the top of this to fit the jack point hole.

Nicky, you won't have to. Andrew is offering the adapter for the top of the jack to make it fit the chassis rail in a similar fashion to the OEM scissor jack. He's proposing to make up a bunch of adapters, not supply the jack itself.



Any reason you are choosing a 6T instead of the lighter 4T or 3T?

Reach. The 6t offers a minimum that's low enough and a maximum that's high enough. The other jacks do not.Have a look at the other thread by BSM. There's a link to it earlier in this thread, noting that you'd need to buy the jack yourself if this idea works out. EDIT; link added here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/180334-d3-jack-replacement-solution-sorts.html

Hope that clarifies.

Scott

[VK3GJM]

Hi All,


This may be a silly question, the jack minimum reach is that based on a flat tyre including the adapter?


I see the jack serving 2 purposes for me, possibly others, changing from normal on-road 19" with GG to better off-road tyres/rims 18" and taller profiles and the repair of a flat on either!


The OEM jack as I recall is about 70-80mm when fully collapsed?


Regards


Gerald

[LRD414]

Gerald,

This is the other thread that may help answer re jack suitability. There could be an issue with the jack at its minimum with an adapter put on top of it but there's ways around that.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/180334-d3-jack-replacement-solution-sorts.html

This thread helps explain situation and options quite well.

Whatever happens, I'll be keeping the OEM scissor jack in the vehicle anyway as a last resort, if it's down on the bump stops or if the bottle jack can't quite fit for some reason (eg uneven ground?). The scissor jack could be used to get just enough height for the bottle jack if it turns out to be slightly too tall.

Regarding changing wheels over from 19 to 18, this would usually be at home on a nice flat surface. In which case a trolley jack would be the best bet I think.

Or use the vehicle's suspension if you're at home to lift wheels for you. See link to Disco3 on 2nd page of the thread I've linked above (link copied here too) for an explanation.
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - A better way to jack it up? (http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic84316.html)

Hope that helps,
Scott

[Nicky]

Started a new thread,expressions of interest for a custom made head to suit the D3/D4 to suit this Kinchrome jack ONLY.
See here.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/224439-d3-d4-hyd-jack-adapter-expression-interest.html
Andrew

Thanks Andrew, please put me in for one please.

[simoncs]

yes please would be interested. is the plan to have it just sit over the top of the jack? ie not welded or screwed on? currently have a sca 4t jack.

[LandyAndy]

I did a search and got this ebay result - note the collection info:

Collection:
NEW FREE Click & Collect at Woolworths & BIG W
Est. available to collect by Mon. 7 Sep.
Select a store

Kincrome Hydraulic Bottle Jack Safe Working Load 6000kg K12052 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kincrome-Hydraulic-Bottle-Jack-Safe-Working-Load-6000Kg-K12052-/191533879851)

I don't know anything about the seller at all and I am not recommending them they just popped up in the search. Just posted this for info about possible collection method using Ebay if you're having trouble finding a local dealer. I've heard of this pickup option but not seen or used it.

HTH
Martin

Yes,the correct jack and price.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Hi Andrew.

I'm interested in an adapter as well. How would this work? Would the existing top of the jack screw off and the adapter replace it or would the adapter sit on top and if so, how would it stay in place? Sorry but I don't know much about these things and would like to understand how it would work. :)

Martin

Until I get the jack,and trick my boy into visiting(he lives in the city) I cant say.Im hoping the exsisting top is held on by a circlip or similar and hoping the boy can copy it on his D4 adapter.He is killing Engineering at UWA and is VERY handy with his lathe;);););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

.. and could somebody please help with what/how to modify the top of this to fit the jack point hole.

Nicky,Im offering a top to suit,when I can get my boy down here.He has a bloody good lathe sitting in my shed,I have no idea how to use it;);););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Any reason you are choosing a 6T instead of the lighter 4T or 3T?

The 6t is on special(until sunday),I dont believe others in the range are.I dont think its much heavier than the alternative jacks others have bought.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

yes please would be interested. is the plan to have it just sit over the top of the jack? ie not welded or screwed on? currently have a sca 4t jack.

Im hoping it will fit and secure to the jack in the same way the original is fitted to the jack.I mentioned my adapter will only fit the jack I buy,chances are it may fit yours,even if you need to weld it.I dont want to make a weld on adapter,I would prefer the adapter turned like they are designed to.
Im picking my jack up tommorow,will know better then.
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

I'm picking mine up tomorrow too.. my old buddy :D :angel:....

Supplier didn't have one in stock this morning, but rang me this afternoon to say he had it for me...

[RanOver]

Yes an adaptor for me too

[Kieren]

me too please

[njz]

+1 more

[BMKal]

Collected from Toolmart in Osborne Park yesterday morning.

Normal RRP $114
Sale Price at the moment $79.95 (thanks Andrew). :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/148.jpg

The threaded height adjuster is a single piece (cannot remove the cap) and cannot be screwed completely out of the top of the jack, so adaptor will have to be a "slip over" fit.

[LandyAndy]

Looked at mine this morning.The top is actually part of the screw shaft.
Adapter will need to fit over it and have a pin to stop it falling off.
Andrew

[BMKal]

Looked at mine this morning.The top is actually part of the screw shaft.
Adapter will need to fit over it and have a pin to stop it falling off.
Andrew

Or you could machine a groove inside the bottom of the adaptor and use an internal circlip. :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/130.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/131.jpg

[Shortyesquire]

Looked at mine this morning.The top is actually part of the screw shaft.
Adapter will need to fit over it and have a pin to stop it falling off.
Andrew
You could use something like jb weld and glue it on? Or drill and ream hole for a relevant sized hex head bolt.

[LandyAndy]

Will leave the minor details to the engineer Brian,just got to talk him into coming down.
I think we are catching up with him in Perth next week.
Andrew

[PKD4]

+1 for me too please.

Thanks,

Pat

[thekernel]

I see that some of you are purchasing single-stage hydraulic jacks such as the kincrome 6T.

Please do more research before purchasing any of these as it is my firm belief that only a two-stage jack has a sufficient stoke to lift the D3/D4 via the chassis.

There are really only three important facts to consider
1. sufficient load rating (2000kg is enough)
2. short enough to fit under chassis with tyre deflated, and
3. long enough stroke to lift under chassis and fit an inflated tyre

The screw section is only of use in the first step - ie getting it under the chassis, after which it is only the stroke that is important.

Here is a much better alternative -
BST2000 Omega Jack
available from Blackwoods for approx $115 (less if you have an account)
2000kg telescopic 2 stroke
Min height 181mm
Max height 442mm
Stroke 201
Screw goes up 60mm

Several threads refer to this jack including http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/180334-d3-jack-replacement-solution-sorts.html .

Also Merc Sprinter jacks have been used but they are difficult to obtain and taller than the Omega to start with.

Hope this helps.

thekernel

[weeds]

Or you could machine a groove inside the bottom of the adaptor and use an internal circlip. :D



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It might be a mission to get the circling over the thread.......

Can somebody post what the adaptor or top of the original jack looks like........

With so much interest and if Andy's young fella is too busy I could approach the engineering firm I use for work.

[LandyAndy]

There is a possability of making the adaptor from plastic,would make the machining easy.I have seen plastic rod Lindsay gets for use on his UWA racecar project which he has made bushes out of.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

It might be a mission to get the circling over the thread.......

Can somebody post what the adaptor or top of the original jack looks like........

With so much interest and if Andy's young fella is too busy I could approach the engineering firm I use for work.

AnD3ew posted this in the other jack thread.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/d3-d4-rrs/96711d1437362192-new-jack-option-imageuploadedbytapatalkhd1437362191.931764.jpg
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

I picked up the Kingchrome 6T ,that Cost Less Bolts ordered in for me, this morning.

Nice surprise and no idea why.. but it only cost me $66-00 :D:D

Maybe it's my suave good looks :angel: :p ok ok maybe not...

At that price it's worth having around the place anyway even if I end up getting a better one in the future as well. ;)

[LandyAndy]

Sent pics and measurements to my boy,he is going to do the calculations to see what plastics he may be able to use,if possible for the ease of production and cost.
The hole in the chassis is only a dowl hole to help stop the sccisor jack from slipping.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Ive had a chat with Lindsay,he is going to price up 30 and get back to me.
Thoughts are the plastic option,he is going to investigate which grade is required,machining on the lathe is easy,material expensive.
His other option is to get the 3 parts,washer base and pin laser cut and he will tig weld them,he thinks this will be the cheapest option.
We discussed making them on the lathe from steel,too slow thus more expensive.Aluminium may be cheaper as the machining is faster.
He is going to 3D print prototype at uni to see if its what we want,shame the plastic on that isnt structural grade!!!! Will see him on thursday.
Andrew

[WhiteD3]

Gents,

I've had this Toolex 2 stage jack under the rear seat of the D3, then D4 and now the current D4 since 2007. Works a treat, has the height and has never leaked.

The adaptors (I have a spare) were made by a mate and work equally well.

Note this jack won't fit under the car if its in limp mode. When this is the case I've used the LR to raise the car high enough to use the bottle jack.

Toolex 535050 - Gasweld Tool Centre (http://www.gasweld.com.au/535050-toolex)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/83.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/84.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/85.jpg

[shanegtr]

Gents,

I've had this Toolex 2 stage jack under the rear seat of the D3, then D4 and now the current D4 since 2007. Works a treat, has the height and has never leaked.

The adaptors (I have a spare) were made by a mate and work equally well.

Note this jack won't fit under the car if its in limp mode. When this is the case I've used the LR to raise the car high enough to use the bottle jack.

Toolex 535050 - Gasweld Tool Centre (http://www.gasweld.com.au/535050-toolex)


I brought my D3 with one of those. Only trouble is its too big to fit easily anywhere

[cjc_td5]

Ive had a chat with Lindsay,he is going to price up 30 and get back to me.
Thoughts are the plastic option,he is going to investigate which grade is required,machining on the lathe is easy,material expensive.
His other option is to get the 3 parts,washer base and pin laser cut and he will tig weld them,he thinks this will be the cheapest option.
We discussed making them on the lathe from steel,too slow thus more expensive.Aluminium may be cheaper as the machining is faster.
He is going to 3D print prototype at uni to see if its what we want,shame the plastic on that isnt structural grade!!!! Will see him on thursday.
Andrew

My suggestion would be to machine it out of aluminium with the lower cup a relatively tight fit over the top of the jack. A simple belt with a mallet to the side of the cup (against a vice or anvil) would distort the cup enough to grip on the top of the jack. Crude but very easy to fit.

Cheers,
Chris

Sent from my SM-G920I using AULRO mobile app

[weeds]

My suggestion would be to machine it out of aluminium with the lower cup a relatively tight fit over the top of the jack. A simple belt with a mallet to the side of the cup (against a vice or anvil) would distort the cup enough to grip on the top of the jack. Crude but very easy to fit.

Cheers,
Chris

Sent from my SM-G920I using AULRO mobile app


Or drill and tap a hole in the side than use a grub screw

[LandyAndy]

Or drill and tap a hole in the side than use a grub screw

We discussed using a grub screw,as I wish to be able to use the original jack top as it will be used for the camper trailer too.
I have sent him the links to WhiteD3s pics,I feel that will be the easiest way.He can get laser cutting done pretty cheaply he tells me.
Andrew

[WhiteD3]

I brought my D3 with one of those. Only trouble is its too big to fit easily anywhere

Fits neatly on the floor between the 2nd and 3rd row of seats.

[shanegtr]

Fits neatly on the floor between the 2nd and 3rd row of seats.

Not really for me as I use the 3rd row seats

[Tombie]

Oh purveyor of fine machined products... I would like to purchase such metallic device from your parlour of production.

[weeds]

Was speaking to a D4 owner yesterday.......he positions his jack under the control arm.

He was in his Range Rover classic so I could look under.....is there any issues with jacking from this point??

[Tombie]

Was speaking to a D4 owner yesterday.......he positions his jack under the control arm.

He was in his Range Rover classic so I could look under.....is there any issues with jacking from this point??

Thats where I've lifted mine from regularly...

[BMKal]

Was speaking to a D4 owner yesterday.......he positions his jack under the control arm.

He was in his Range Rover classic so I could look under.....is there any issues with jacking from this point??


Thats where I've lifted mine from regularly...

Yep .................. that's where I position the trolley jack if I'm lifting mine out in the shed.

Have only ever had to use the OEM Land Rover jack once (in Tassie), and positioned that where it says to in the owner's manual (see ............ I DO read the instructions ............... sometimes). :p

Nearly had to figure out a way to use the OEM jack to get myself out of trouble out in the bush recently. Got stuck on a rather large rock under the LHS rock slider. Managed to get it off with the suspension though. :D

At least I got through the track though - the two rice burning 4WD's that were with me couldn't.

A little bit of panel beating required to the mounting brackets for the slider (didn't damage the tube itself though, which surprised me - they are stronger than they look).

[LandyAndy]

My boy got back with a price.
He is going with the steel version AnD3ew posted.
We are going with a slip over the jack adapter,its never going to move under load,just keep the adapter in the door pocket or something,if you want to weld or put a set screw in,thats your choice.Best the jack can be used as it is sold.
It will be a 1 off run of 50,I told him min 25(to get a price) which we almost have,so I will have plenty of spares into the future.
He will get the parts laser cut and he will tig weld them,we are talking $12.00 per item,plus the aussie post P/H.
The quality will be tops.My boy is in his 3rd year of engineering at UWA,his poorest exam result sofar has been 86%,the best 99%,and lots in the 90% range.Must get him DNA tested;);););) Anything he has produced here of his lathe is awesome!!!!
No need to comit to a buy yet,I will get it all done,adapters made then will sort that bit out.He is posting me a plastic tester first.
Andrew

[wbowner]

Andrew
I have the omega jack and the jack head has a 27.5 diameter which would fit with this bracket, so I am interested as well

Richard

[TuffRR]

If this will work with the Omega jack then put me down for one also. Thanks.

[wbowner]

If this will work with the Omega jack then put me down for one also. Thanks.

I must admit I haven't measured but according to the specs on my jack , bst2000, the saddle diameter is 27.5


TELESCOPIC HYDRAULIC BOTTLE JACKS (http://www.shinnfu.com.au/_mgxroot/page_10843.html)

So if they have catered for 28mm it will fit.


Richard

[jonesy63]

Hi Andrew,
Can you add me to the interested list?
Thanks,
Rob

[lpj]

Please add me as well!

[Brewn]

:)Thanks Andrew, please put me in for one.

[boardrider]

+ 1 for me thanks
boardrider

[Disco W.A]

Andrew,


if there's any left I will take one.


Regards Roger

[RHS58]

How many so far Andrew?
Might need easy 50 +

[LandyAndy]

How many so far Andrew?
Might need easy 50 +

I rekon I had around 25,more added since,50 should be plenty,but can make more,happy for people to keep adding their names to the list.
Just waiting for the plastic sample to arrive,if it fits Lindsay will order the steel laser cutting and we will go from there.
Andrew

[weeds]

AnD3ew posted this in the other jack thread.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/d3-d4-rrs/96711d1437362192-new-jack-option-imageuploadedbytapatalkhd1437362191.931764.jpg

Andrew


Based on this pic I'm struggling to work out what needs laser cutting??

It looks like it machines out of a it of solid bar??

[LandyAndy]

Based on this pic I'm struggling to work out what needs laser cutting??

It looks like it machines out of a it of solid bar??

My boy is the engineer,plus he also manages the coins on the UWA engineers racecar he helps build,he is the "chassis team leader".
He could sit there for hours and hours machining away on a lathe and produce the same product at a lot greater cost,or he can get the 3 bits laser cut from one of his teams sponsors then tig weld them together;);););).
Seems simple to me;);););)
Andrew

[letherm]

Hi Andrew.

Make me a definite buy rather than just interested.

Thanks for going to this trouble for all of us. :)

Martin

[rar110]

Yes please.

[wbowner]

Andrew
Would it be to much trouble for you to publish a list of people who have responded so that we know we are on the list

Richard

[l00kin4]

I see that some of you are purchasing single-stage hydraulic jacks such as the kincrome 6T.

Please do more research before purchasing any of these as it is my firm belief that only a two-stage jack has a sufficient stoke to lift the D3/D4 via the chassis.

There are really only three important facts to consider
1. sufficient load rating (2000kg is enough)
2. short enough to fit under chassis with tyre deflated, and
3. long enough stroke to lift under chassis and fit an inflated tyre

The screw section is only of use in the first step - ie getting it under the chassis, after which it is only the stroke that is important.

Here is a much better alternative -
BST2000 Omega Jack
available from Blackwoods for approx $115 (less if you have an account)
2000kg telescopic 2 stroke
Min height 181mm
Max height 442mm
Stroke 201
Screw goes up 60mm

Several threads refer to this jack including http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/180334-d3-jack-replacement-solution-sorts.html .

Also Merc Sprinter jacks have been used but they are difficult to obtain and taller than the Omega to start with.

Hope this helps.

thekernel

Hi folks,

Following on from post above... Sorry if this question has been addressed but if it has, I can't find it. A bit confused. Based on the minimum lift requirement of 170mm from the other thread referenced above this 6T Kincrome will fall short, won't it? 'cos you (obviously) can't use the screw out top once under load.

Kincrome Hydraulic Bottle Jack 6000KG #K12052
FEATURES & SPECIFICATIONS
? Capacity : 6000KG
? Weight : 5.2KG
? Hydraulic Lift: 125mm
? Screw Extension : 70mm
? Overall Height Closed : 200mm
? Overall Height Open : 395mm
? Base Area: 169mm?
? Standard : AS/NZ 2693:2007
? Capacity : 6000KG
? Weight : 5.05KG
? Hydraulic Lift : 125MM
? Screw Extension : 80MM
? Overall Height Closed : 200MM
? Overall Height Open : 405mm
? Base Area : 120 x 115MM

So we should buy the Omega or similar dual stage jack instead?

Thanks,
David

[cjc_td5]

Hi folks,

Following on from post above... Sorry if this question has been addressed but if it has, I can't find it. A bit confused. Based on the minimum lift requirement of 170mm from the other thread referenced above this 6T Kincrome will fall short, won't it? 'cos you (obviously) can't use the screw out top once under load.

Kincrome Hydraulic Bottle Jack 6000KG #K12052
FEATURES & SPECIFICATIONS
? Capacity : 6000KG
? Weight : 5.2KG
? Hydraulic Lift: 125mm
? Screw Extension : 70mm
? Overall Height Closed : 200mm
? Overall Height Open : 395mm
? Base Area: 169mm?
? Standard : AS/NZ 2693:2007
? Capacity : 6000KG
? Weight : 5.05KG
? Hydraulic Lift : 125MM
? Screw Extension : 80MM
? Overall Height Closed : 200MM
? Overall Height Open : 405mm
? Base Area : 120 x 115MM

So we should buy the Omega or similar dual stage jack instead?

Thanks,
David

I believe the simple answer to your question David is you need approx 200mm of stroke to lift a D4, which the Kincrome 6T jack does not have. I believe only a dual stage jack like the Omega will deliver this stroke length.

That is not to say that the adapter being the subject of this thread is not applicable to the Omega jack as well....

Chris

[l00kin4]

I believe the simple answer to your question David is you need approx 200mm of stroke to lift a D4, which the Kincrome 6T jack does not have. I believe only a dual stage jack like the Omega will deliver this stroke length.

That is not to say that the adapter being the subject of this thread is not applicable to the Omega jack as well....

Chris

Thanks Chris,

Oh well, guess I'll be well set for bottle jacks then. :) Already ordered the Kincrome and it's on its way. Have now ordered an Omega from Blackwoods. hmm Good news is that as per Richard's post below this adapter still may suit.


I must admit I haven't measured but according to the specs on my jack , bst2000, the saddle diameter is 27.5


TELESCOPIC HYDRAULIC BOTTLE JACKS (http://www.shinnfu.com.au/_mgxroot/page_10843.html)

So if they have catered for 28mm it will fit.


Richard

[weeds]

My boy is the engineer,plus he also manages the coins on the UWA engineers racecar he helps build,he is the "chassis team leader".

He could sit there for hours and hours machining away on a lathe and produce the same product at a lot greater cost,or he can get the 3 bits laser cut from one of his teams sponsors then tig weld them together;);););).

Seems simple to me;);););)

Andrew


Fair enough.........many ways to skin a cat I guess

[LandyAndy]

I believe the simple answer to your question David is you need approx 200mm of stroke to lift a D4, which the Kincrome 6T jack does not have. I believe only a dual stage jack like the Omega will deliver this stroke length.

That is not to say that the adapter being the subject of this thread is not applicable to the Omega jack as well....

Chris

The Jack head is actually 30mm,adapter will be 30.5mm internal with a set screw Im told.Measured a few jacks at the depot today,all seemed to share the same 30mm head,so it will fit others.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Andrew
Would it be to much trouble for you to publish a list of people who have responded so that we know we are on the list

Richard

Will see what I can do over the weekend,just counted 31,so probably will stick with 50,unless more put their hands up over the next few days.Transfering $250 to Lindsay tonite to cover his materials,he will be ordering them monday.
Andrew

[wbowner]

Will see what I can do over the weekend,just counted 31,so probably will stick with 50,unless more put their hands up over the next few days.Transfering $250 to Lindsay tonite to cover his materials,he will be ordering them monday.
Andrew

Andrew
Many thanks. But make sure you enjoy the weekend first.

Richard

[LandyAndy]

Here is the prototype.Its not quite right,pin is too tight,will now be 16mm instead of 17mm.Hole for jack head is wrong,28mm is too small,will be 30.5mm and a side set screw to secure it.
This is 3D laser printed,but he did make it in the 3 pieces as it will be made from laser cut steel.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/832.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/002_zps8cienoea.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/09/833.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/003_zpscqjt6qtc.jpg.html)

Andrew

[Ferret]

Add me to your list Andy.

Not sure if intend to buy a jack but if the price for this comes in as estimated (ie cheap) then I might as well get one now as insurance against the day I do buy a jack.

[RHS58]

I'd like mine in that shade of pink please?

[LandyAndy]

I'd like mine in that shade of pink please?

You may have to use your nail polish on it:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew

[LRD414]

It's a brilliant way to prototype items quickly and cheaply. Make sure the cost of that is included in the final figures too.[emoji106]🏻[emoji2]

Thanks,
Scott

[LandyAndy]

He did that at uni.
My boy is rapt with the response,and being a uni student always needs coins.I will be buying the lot off him and doing the distribution.
If anybody ever needs items made he is always keen to help out.He also dabbles with carbon fibre,part of his racecar project at UWA.
Andrew

[l00kin4]

Brilliant!

[LandyAndy]

Here is a link to UWA motorsport.
http://www.motorsport.uwa.edu.au:8090/display/UWAM/Home
Have a look around the site,you will see my boy in there(Lindsay Wood).
They are off to Melbourne early december to compete in this years Formula SAE.Unfortunately its my busy time at work so we cant get over to see the comp:mad::mad::mad:.HOWEVER,we are about to employ a new bloke,and we may have bought a grader steerer:cool::cool::cool::cool: Will find out soon if he can do what I do,THEN we may be able to sneak over there.
Roadtrip in the D4:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[DiscoDB]

Hi Andrew - add me to your list for one of LandyAndy's Dandy Adapters.... 😋

[NTB]

Hello Andrew,
Put myself down for one as well please.
Neil(NTB)

[Aaron40]

1 for me Andrew, thanks Lindsay!:D

[LandyAndy]

Those who have expressed interest in a jack adapter.
Once they are ready I will be posting in the group buy area,people who are listed get first option if I get more orders than stock.
Yell out if I missed you out.
LandyAndy
LRD414
RickO
letherm
lookin4
eddy
Shortysquire
RHS58
sctsprin
winaje
guthrie
strydes
jliquorish
Nod
Nicky
simoncs
Bytemark
RanOver
Kieren
njz
BMKal
PKD4
Shrek(Tombie:p:p:p)
wbowner
TuffRR
jonesy63
lpj
Brewn
boardrider
DiscoWA
rar110
Ferret
DiscoDB
NTB
Aaron40

Thats 35 sofar,I need to let Lindsay know sun nite as he is ordering monday.At this stage I will be making 50 as Im buying them all off Lindsay.I dont want to have 10 spares and need to fleabay them;);););)
At this stage there is no comitment to buy,I will deal with that once they are made,as I said,if you are on this list you get first dibs on the 50.
Thanks
Andrew

[GP1200]

One more thanks Andy,
Jack

[LandyAndy]

Those who have expressed interest in a jack adapter.
Once they are ready I will be posting in the group buy area,people who are listed get first option if I get more orders than stock.
Yell out if I missed you out.
LandyAndy
LRD414
RickO
letherm
lookin4
eddy
Shortysquire
RHS58
sctsprin
winaje
guthrie
strydes
jliquorish
Nod
Nicky
simoncs
Bytemark
RanOver
Kieren
njz
BMKal
PKD4
Shrek(Tombie:p:p:p)
wbowner
TuffRR
jonesy63
lpj
Brewn
boardrider
DiscoWA
rar110
Ferret
DiscoDB
NTB
Aaron40

Thats 35 sofar,I need to let Lindsay know sun nite as he is ordering monday.At this stage I will be making 50 as Im buying them all off Lindsay.I dont want to have 10 spares and need to fleabay them;);););)
At this stage there is no comitment to buy,I will deal with that once they are made,as I said,if you are on this list you get first dibs on the 50.
Thanks
Andrew
SBD4
Drizzle
Old Salt
xoph44
Plane Fixer
Ean Austral
Jimlr
Rangeyrover
IndusD4
disco4now
Narrangga
GP1200
Andrew

[jliquorish]

Hi Andrew,

I've bought the jack. How does the screw in shaft come out?

Cheers
John

[LandyAndy]

Hi Andrew,

I've bought the jack. How does the screw in shaft come out?

Cheers
John

It doesnt.
My adaptor fits over its head and secures with a set screw;);););)
Means you can still use the jack for a trailer without the adaptor;);););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Please add me to your list Andy :D

You were already on there I see after adding you.Albeit with a spelling error:p:p:p:p
Andrew

[disco4now]

Hi Andrew,

Can you add me for one.

thanks
Gerry

[Narangga]

I'll have one too please.

[IndusD4]

And I will have one as well please.

Ron

[rangeyrover]

Yes please.
After the debacle at 5 in the morning with a flat tyre and much farting about. I know I need one!

[LandyAndy]

Spoke to Lindsay a short time ago.
He is ordering materials to make 50.
I have to take Deb up to a hospital appointment on sept 17,he will try and get them ready to pick up then.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Yes please.
After the debacle at 5 in the morning with a flat tyre and much farting about. I know I need one!

That should make you no 40.;);););)
Andrew

[BMKal]

Spoke to Lindsay a short time ago.
He is ordering materials to make 50.
I have to take Deb up to a hospital appointment on sept 17,he will try and get them ready to pick up then.
Andrew

Is the appointment at Charlie's Andrew ?

Might be down there in the office around the same time - have just been given the nod on that new job I was telling you about up north, and have to be down in Perth to give a presentation to the client around the third week in September.

If we're both there at the same time, maybe a good opportunity to catch up with you and Deb for lunch at the Captain Stirling ............. :D

[Jimlr]

Please put me down for one as well. Never one to miss out on a good thing, and support your young bloke doing something of such interest and value :). Thanks for organising.

[LandyAndy]

Is the appointment at Charlie's Andrew ?

Might be down there in the office around the same time - have just been given the nod on that new job I was telling you about up north, and have to be down in Perth to give a presentation to the client around the third week in September.

If we're both there at the same time, maybe a good opportunity to catch up with you and Deb for lunch at the Captain Stirling ............. :D
Nah mate,RPH.
We are hoping to take Lindsay out for lunch that day as it was his 21st a month or so ago.She may be staying up until the sunday as she hasnt seen her mum for ages so I would be back up on the sunday to collect her.UNLESS I START ENJOYING THE PEACE AND QUIET:D:D:D:D:D
Andrew

[Ean Austral]

Gday Andrew,


Put me down for 1 please.




Cheers Ean

[SBD4]

I'll take one too, just measured a jack I already have and it should fit - just. If not, I'll grind a little off the screw top.

Thanks Andrew.

[Drizzle]

Count me in!

[xoph44]

I'd like one too!

[Plane Fixer]

I will have one too thanks

[oldsalt]

Put me on the list as well, thank you.

[LandyAndy]

SBD4
Drizzle
Old Salt
xoph44
Plane Fixer
Ean Austral
Jimlr
Rangeyrover
IndusD4
disco4now
Narrangga
GP1200
Andrew

Dfourfun
Hermano Tijuana
Mojo
The list as it should be now adding the later arrivals.Takes us to 49 interested.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Those who have expressed interest in a jack adapter.
Once they are ready I will be posting in the group buy area,people who are listed get first option if I get more orders than stock.
Yell out if I missed you out.
LandyAndy
LRD414
RickO
letherm
lookin4
eddy
Shortysquire
RHS58
sctsprin
winaje
guthrie
strydes
jliquorish
Nod
Nicky
simoncs
Bytemark
RanOver
Kieren
njz
BMKal
PKD4
Shrek(Tombie:p:p:p)
wbowner
TuffRR
jonesy63
lpj
Brewn
boardrider
DiscoWA
rar110
Ferret
DiscoDB
NTB
Aaron40

Thats 35 sofar,I need to let Lindsay know sun nite as he is ordering monday.At this stage I will be making 50 as Im buying them all off Lindsay.I dont want to have 10 spares and need to fleabay them;);););)
At this stage there is no comitment to buy,I will deal with that once they are made,as I said,if you are on this list you get first dibs on the 50.
Thanks
Andrew

This is the original list with the first 35.
Those that have posted already saying you are interested one please make sure you are already on one of these 2 lists as there are only a couple left.Dont want to miss anybody because I failed to list you.
Thanks
Andrew

Edit
the bit of paper I was scribling on gives me 48,these lists 47.It could be the debacle Bytemrk caused double dipping,please make sure I havent missed you if you have posted.
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Edit
the bit of paper I was scribling on gives me 48,these lists 47.It could be the debacle Bytemrk caused double dipping,please make sure I havent missed you if you have posted.
Andrew

My pleasure :D :D :D :p

[mojo]

If there's any left, I'll take one!

Cheers
Sean

[LandyAndy]

If there's any left, I'll take one!

Cheers
Sean

On the list.
Andrew

[BMKal]

In the Supercheap sale flyer received today, they are advertising a 4,000kg bottle jack on special for $23.97 from tomorrow (normal RRP is ~ $60). Made in China (surprise, surprise) but doesn't look too bad in the flesh. At least it has a fill point where you can drain / top up / replace the oil if you need to.

I had a look at one today, but didn't have a tape measure with me, and they wouldn't let me have one at the sale price until tomorrow. But at first glance of the specs in the flyer, it might do the job, with a working height range of 214mm to 430mm.

The only problem is that they don't state if that range is with the screw extension wound all the way in at both ends of the range, or if the "top" of the range is achieved with hydraulic stroke plus the screw wound out. Even looking at the box today and the instruction sheet, nowhere does it state the stroke.

Will be back there tomorrow with a tape measure and check for myself. I already have the Kinchrome 6,000kg jack outside on the bench - will see how the two compare.

They also have a 6 tonne bench press on special for $128 and an ultrasonic cleaner for $99 - tempted.

[Hermano Tijuana]

Hi Andrew,

Can you add me to your list,

Thanks,

Bernard

[LandyAndy]

Hi Andrew,

Can you add me to your list,

Thanks,

Bernard

Done,welcome to the crazy world of Club Permagrin,the lair of the latte sippers;););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Hermano Tijuana
Mojo
The list as it should be now adding the later arrivals.Takes us to 49 interested.
Andrew

1 left it seems.
Andrew

[Narangga]

1 left it seems.
Andrew

Did you add in yourself??? :angel::angel::angel:;)

[LandyAndy]

I did.
I will reserve the last one people and close the list,I honestly didnt think we would hit 50 so quickly.Im waiting to pick a spare wheel up of a WA AULROian,Im sure he may want one,if not it will be available later.
Andrew

[letherm]

I did.
I honestly didnt think we would hit 50 so quickly.
Andrew

Just goes to show how much we all trust the OEM LR scissor jack and jump at the chance to get something safer. Thanks again Andrew for arranging this.

Regards,
Martin

[Dfourfun]

LandyAndy

Can I please have the lucky last #50 of your D4 bottle jack head converter? I will also pm you separately.

I have been scratching my head about this for a while knowing the OEM jack was not a long term reliable solution and you have just answered my prayers. Thanx for thinking of others and sharing this beaut solution.

cheers

[dmdigital]

Blast only just saw this thread. Guess I missed out Andrew?

[wbowner]

Andrew
Not sure how the group by system works but will you publish here when it is time to pay and give delivery details?


Richard

[LandyAndy]

Derek is first on my missed out list.
Richard,Im waiting to get them from my boy,seeing him this thursday,hoping they will be ready,if not possibly sunday.
I will take one to the post office to get the post/packing to anywhere in aust price once I have them.
The 49 on the list(after me) will have first dibs.
Will put a link here to group buys.
Andrew

[wbowner]

Derek is first on my missed out list.
Richard,Im waiting to get them from my boy,seeing him this thursday,hoping they will be ready,if not possibly sunday.
I will take one to the post office to get the post/packing to anywhere in aust price once I have them.
The 49 on the list(after me) will have first dibs.
Will put a link here to group buys.
Andrew
Thanks Andrew


Richard

[Silenceisgolden]

If anyone drops out, I would be very grateful for one also. My fault for not looking at the forum more regularly.

Great job, Andrew, really shows the forum at its best.

Cheers, Paul

[LandyAndy]

Derek is first on my missed out list.
Richard,Im waiting to get them from my boy,seeing him this thursday,hoping they will be ready,if not possibly sunday.
I will take one to the post office to get the post/packing to anywhere in aust price once I have them.
The 49 on the list(after me) will have first dibs.
Will put a link here to group buys.
Andrew

Silenceisgolden would be 2 on the list;););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Update.
Saw my boy yesterday,awaiting the order back from the laser cutters,possibly ready for him today,friday,if not monday.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Update.
Saw my boy yesterday,awaiting the order back from the laser cutters,possibly ready for him today,friday,if not monday.
I have paid him in full so we will definately get an order,OR I WILL CUT IT OUT OF HIS INHERITANCE:D:D:D:D:D:D
Andrew

[jliquorish]

Hi LandyAndy,

Any news?

John

[LandyAndy]

Spoke to Lindsay on monday,he had welded some up,had run out of gas.
Hoping to go to the city friday or monday to collect parts for work,if Lindsay is finished I will collect them too.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

An update.
Lindsay tells me they are all welded and drilled,has only tapped a few of them.
He apologises for the delay,busy at UNI with studies and getting their racecar ready to compete in Melbourne,first week in December.
I told him not to stress,punch a few out here and there and you will get it done.
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Andy , don't forget to yell out when the young fella needs some cash!

[LandyAndy]

Andy , don't forget to yell out when the young fella needs some cash!

Ive paid him in full for the job lot;);););)
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Thanks Andy..... you know the other obvious question...

Just yell out when it's time ;)

[LandyAndy]

Waiting until Ive got them and sorted the mailing price;);););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

I got a call from Lindsay today.
He has lost,or somebody thumped,or somebody threw in the bin the box with the chassis inserts:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Somehow I new I shouldnt have paid him upfront.He tells me he will sort it as it was his fault,perhaps with a M10 setscrew.BLOODY KIDZ:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Andrew

[Silenceisgolden]

Don't lose too much sleep Andy, if that is the worst thing that happens any particular day, then the old world is not such a bad place.

[LandyAndy]

Good news.
Somebody had put them in a safe place,normality has resumed.May be picking them up friday.
Andrew

[sctsprin]

Definitely want one, I'm away at Fraser until the 4th though

[Narangga]

Good news.
Somebody had put them in a safe place,normality has resumed.May be picking them up friday.
Andrew

Somebody other than his mother was cleaning up after him :eek2: :wasntme:

[LandyAndy]

Somebody other than his mother was cleaning up after him :eek2: :wasntme:

He is doing them at uni,one of his motorsport mates had shifted them it seems.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Just spoke to Lindsay,in 20 mins the last one will be done:cool::cool::cool::cool:
I will going up to collect them tomorow and also sorting the postage cost out,watch this spot;);););););)
Andrew

[Shortyesquire]

Just spoke to Lindsay,in 20 mins the last one will be done:cool::cool::cool::cool:
I will going up to collect them tomorow and also sorting the postage cost out,watch this spot;);););););)
Andrew
Hi Landy ,

I'm actually in Perth near uwa. Any chance of living mine with your son or me meeting you somewhere to give you money and pick it up?

[Guppy]

Just spoke to Lindsay,in 20 mins the last one will be done:cool::cool::cool::cool:
I will going up to collect them tomorow and also sorting the postage cost out,watch this spot;);););););)
Andrew

Hi Andrew, I know Im late on the reply, so if you have a spare, I would like to add my order to the mix
Gup

[Melbourne Park]

Same for me, I'd like one.

[LandyAndy]

I have the order,they fit.I didnt get to aus post to get the postage cost yet.
Lindsay tells me they took much more work than he allowed for,maybe we can add a dollar or 2 to the unit price which I can pass back??? Thoughts guys.
I will get some pics loaded over the weekend.
I had a tour of his UWA Motorsport workshop,WOW,some of the things he showed me blew me away.Its all secret squirrel stuff so I couldnt take pics.The billet front steering units and their own CV joints were outstanding.
The sad bit is Lindsay and a couple of others are doing all the work,the chassis is only 90% welded together and they aint getting alot of help:mad::mad::mad::mad:
Alot to accomplish before the first week in December when they race it in Melbourne!!!!
Will let eastern taters know when the comp is on,there should be a big mob of unis competing,unfortunately I cant make it over.
Andrew

[letherm]

I have the order,they fit.I didnt get to aus post to get the postage cost yet.
Lindsay tells me they took much more work than he allowed for,maybe we can add a dollar or 2 to the unit price which I can pass back??? Thoughts guys.
I will get some pics loaded over the weekend.
I had a tour of his UWA Motorsport workshop,WOW,some of the things he showed me blew me away.Its all secret squirrel stuff so I couldnt take pics.The billet front steering units and their own CV joints were outstanding.
The sad bit is Lindsay and a couple of others are doing all the work,the chassis is only 90% welded together and they aint getting alot of help:mad::mad::mad::mad:
Alot to accomplish before the first week in December when they race it in Melbourne!!!!
Will let eastern taters know when the comp is on,there should be a big mob of unis competing,unfortunately I cant make it over.
Andrew

Andy, I'm quite happy to pay whatever you think is fair provided I don't need to take out a second mortgage:p Seriously, charge what needs to be charged. I don't have a problem with paying the extra needed.

Martin

[SBD4]

I have the order,they fit.I didnt get to aus post to get the postage cost yet.
Lindsay tells me they took much more work than he allowed for,maybe we can add a dollar or 2 to the unit price which I can pass back??? Thoughts guys....
Of course Andrew - fine by me. It should be enough to make it worth his while.

[l00kin4]

Andy, I'm quite happy to pay whatever you think is fair provided I don't need to take out a second mortgage:p Seriously, charge what needs to be charged. I don't have a problem with paying the extra needed.

Martin

Totally agree with Martin and Sean. Same goes for me.

David

[BMKal]

Same here Andrew - whatever you think is fair.

And there's no need to offer me a special deal because of that stunning photo of you and your D4 that I sent you earlier. :angel: :p:p:p

[Plane Fixer]

+1 here too. No probs.

[LRD414]

Of course Andrew - fine by me. It should be enough to make it worth his while.


I'm happy with this too.
Scott

[RHS58]

Happy to pay whatever you think is a fair price.
Should include a margin to reward you for your (and sons) time and effort in development, manufacture, postage and handling.

I see theres demand building for a second batch.

Ron

[Narangga]

That's fine Andrew.

Maybe use a daylight saving scale. :angel:

NT +1.5
QLD +2
SA +2.5
Vic, NSW, ACT & Tas +3 :wasntme:

[Silenceisgolden]

Likewise, whatever it costs, still a bargain compared to the cost of the D4 to start with!

[dmdigital]

Andy charge what you need to and make sure you're both not out of pocket. If it ends up too much for some I think there's enough of us queued up for the left overs.

[Melbourne Park]

Andy, I'm quite happy to pay whatever you think is fair provided I don't need to take out a second mortgage:p Seriously, charge what needs to be charged. I don't have a problem with paying the extra needed.

Martin

If I was not too late, then same for me!

[oldsalt]

Worth every penny....looking forward to getting it.
cheers

[LandyAndy]

Pics.
Will try and get to the post office tommorow to price postage,then I can start a new thread for orders.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/307.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/003_zpsp908f8hk.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/308.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/002_zpsuhasf4ey.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/309.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/001_zpscqa5kb1i.jpg.html)

Andrew

[LRD414]

I want pink [emoji16]

Scott

[RHS58]

I want pink [emoji16]

Scott

I'm thinking most are partial to pink bits.

Ron

[LandyAndy]

I want pink [emoji16]

Scott

Somebody else did too,I suggested they could use their nail polish;););)That one isnt quite right,its the 3D printed prototype and its plastic.
Andrew

[Shortyesquire]

Andy charge what you need to and make sure you're both not out of pocket. If it ends up too much for some I think there's enough of us queued up for the left overs.
+1 charge what it's worth + profit margin.

[letherm]

Pics.
Will try and get to the post office tommorow to price postage,then I can start a new thread for orders.

Andrew

Andy, being in Sydney I expect to pay more for postage than the guys in SA and WA for example. Leave it to you to decide. :)

[LandyAndy]

Andy, being in Sydney I expect to pay more for postage than the guys in SA and WA for example. Leave it to you to decide. :)

From my past dealings with the local lady who runs the PO,its basically the same price to sent it all over australia,its an ebay introduced thing,the loverly post pack!!!!,she always comes up with the best/cheapest method,thats why I didnt visit a Perth PO,they will tell you a $15 post bag which may not be the cheapest method but the most profitable;););););)
Andrew

[PKD4]

Andy charge what you need to and make sure you're both not out of pocket.

+ some for time and effort.

Thanks for organising.

Cheers,

Pat

[rar110]

A pink one is less likely to be knocked off.

[LandyAndy]

OK.
I went to the PO today,I can get a post pack inc postage buying the 50,in one hit for $7.90ea,so I will call postage/packing and handling $8.00 to call it even.Originally Lindsay quoted me $12.00 ea,I would like to call them $14.00ea and slip him another $100 once I clear them all.So that is $22.00 delivered.
Is everyone cool with this????
Dont PM me yet,I will set up a thread in group deals with a link from here tommorow or the next day at which stage I will lock this thread.PLEASE if you no longer want one please let me know as I have others wanting one,the original 49 and mine go to the original 50 people who put their hands up first.
Thanks
Andrew

[Narangga]

Your call on price. Happy for mine to be $25.

[LandyAndy]

I think $22 is pretty fair.
Andrew

[letherm]

OK.
I went to the PO today,I can get a post pack inc postage buying the 50,in one hit for $7.90ea,so I will call postage/packing and handling $8.00 to call it even.Originally Lindsay quoted me $12.00 ea,I would like to call them $14.00ea and slip him another $100 once I clear them all.So that is $22.00 delivered.
Is everyone cool with this????
Dont PM me yet,I will set up a thread in group deals with a link from here tommorow or the next day at which stage I will lock this thread.PLEASE if you no longer want one please let me know as I have others wanting one,the original 49 and mine go to the original 50 people who put their hands up first.
Thanks
Andrew

Fine by me Andy - no second mortgage needed. :p

Martin

[RickO]

All good!

[Shortyesquire]

I hit the road on Fri can I pay extra for express post?

[Plane Fixer]

Let me know and you shall have the money as quickly as the bank can get it to you.

[LandyAndy]

OK people,time to place your orders.As already stated,the 49 on the list get first dibs.Price is $22.00 delivered(via aust post),or $14.00 pick up.
Im locking and sticking this thread now.
If you did put your hand up for one,but dont want one please let me know as I have others wanting any spare units.
Thanks
Andrew
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