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Primalanton
27th August 2015, 10:35 AM
I just completed the Canning Stock Route in my trusty Defender.
It was interesting to note the many types of vehicles out there and the extent of their owner's preparation for the big trip. Some were very well equipped whilst others were woefully under prepared!
We saw 2 Iveco Dailys out on the track (both travelling seperately to each other), both had problems with radiators splitting at their base. Is this a problem with this vehicle on severe corrugations?
The Dailys were not alone with their problems. Mitsubishi Triton with a broken back, Pathfinder with split fuel tank plus many others with minor problems.

Ferret
27th August 2015, 11:57 AM
We saw 2 Iveco Dailys out on the track (both travelling seperately to each other), both had problems with radiators splitting at their base.

I saw and spoke with the owners of a blue one with radiator trouble at well 33. Repairs were made and it headed north.

Also saw and spoke briefly with the owner a white one with a Trayon (I think) on the back. It was on the Talawana track not far from and heading towards Georgia Bore where I think it turned South. No problems were mentioned at the time, even after being told of the radiator problems of the blue one at well 33.

Are these the two you encountered? If so, where?


... Mitsubishi Triton with a broken back...

If it was a green dual cab, then the owner's insurance arranged its transportation to Port Headland. Then transported back to Perth where it is now being repaired.

Eevo
27th August 2015, 02:10 PM
radiator splitting, not really preventable.
broken back. not really preventable
split fuel tank, not really preventable

goingbush
27th August 2015, 02:31 PM
not a common problem with the Dailys, what is a common problem is the Iveco Service centres do not understand the trucks, nor do they have any concept of the conditions the owners will be putting them through, Iveco simply do not check anything in a service that they would not check on a 2wd truck, and specifically the integrity of radiator mounts. Ive yet to find a bolt on the truck that was fitted with any form of thread locking compound.

The trucks are magic on corrugations

Ive done 65k in mine mostly on corrugated roads, radiator and mounts still intact - touch wood.

discotwinturbo
27th August 2015, 04:50 PM
The blue Iveco was not actually a split at the base.

Where the pipe exits the radiator at the top drivers side, it heads back towards the engine as a rigid connection....this is the part that cracked. They ended up doing a decent repair to this. This would easily be an issue with corrugations and the way it was mounted.

My mates Mitsi....really sad braking its back as his dad just finished his first round of cancer treatment the Monday before we headed up to Halls Creek. He had the best of a worst outcome with his insurer replacing his chassis, but will take 3-4 months before he gets it back.

D4's Rock on this trip. 200 series did ok too, but what an awful ride, and 23.5lp100...no thanks.

Brett...

Primalanton
27th August 2015, 07:13 PM
Yes, blue one at Well 33. White one down the south end around well 9 from memory - he turned around and returned to Willuna (I think).
Yes, saw the Triton & heard the story - very very sad all round!
Interesting to note both Daily drivers praised how their trucks performed on corrugations - much like "going bush". To be honest the Daily does impress me!

Primalanton
27th August 2015, 07:23 PM
On reflection of my first post - the comment I made about preparation of vehicles did not apply to the vehicles we have discussed in this post!
I was particularly referring to a couple of vehicles that we came across which were (in my view) totally unprepared - both were travelling alone. One had no sand flag, no radio, no gps, no first aid kit, only one spare and was not aware of the advantages of lowering tyre pressure! He had no tyre gauge, no compressor or pump, no tyre repair gear and only carried 15 litres of water! He did have an epirb and his attitude was that if he got into trouble, "someone"would come and rescue him!

LandyAndy
28th August 2015, 03:24 PM
The blue Iveco was not actually a split at the base.

Where the pipe exits the radiator at the top drivers side, it heads back towards the engine as a rigid connection....this is the part that cracked. They ended up doing a decent repair to this. This would easily be an issue with corrugations and the way it was mounted.

My mates Mitsi....really sad braking its back as his dad just finished his first round of cancer treatment the Monday before we headed up to Halls Creek. He had the best of a worst outcome with his insurer replacing his chassis, but will take 3-4 months before he gets it back.

D4's Rock on this trip. 200 series did ok too, but what an awful ride, and 23.5lp100...no thanks.

Brett...

Tritons are known for the chassis cracking,where the support tube is welded thru the chassis.Some Ford Rangers with heavy tradesmans canopies and tools have also broke in the same place.
May get to break one myself,work have tendered on a 2012 4x4 mitsi dualcab to replace my 2006 2wd rodeo.I carry 400lt of diesel around for my grader so will have a good crack at it;););););););).
Andrew

DiscoMick
28th August 2015, 05:52 PM
Tritons are known for the chassis cracking,where the support tube is welded thru the chassis.Some Ford Rangers with heavy tradesmans canopies and tools have also broke in the same place.
May get to break one myself,work have tendered on a 2012 4x4 mitsi dualcab to replace my 2006 2wd rodeo.I carry 400lt of diesel around for my grader so will have a good crack at it;););););););).
Andrew

A relation's Triton has twice cracked its trayside after having a top brand-name canopy installed. Had to have extra bracing welded into place. If you look at them sideways almost all of the tray is behind the rear wheels, so its no wonder they bend.
I have also seen a Mazda BT 50 dual cab which bent its chassis while crossing the Simpson heavily loaded.
No way I'd put 400 litres of diesel in the tray of a Triton, or most other utes for that matter.

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Ferret
28th August 2015, 07:13 PM
May get to break one myself,work have tendered on a 2012 4x4 mitsi dualcab to replace my 2006 2wd rodeo.I carry 400lt of diesel around for my grader so will have a good crack at it;););););););).
Andrew

Bounce it over some sand dunes moguls and corrugations - I think you might break it. :D.

There was also a Rodeo at well 33 with a broken chassis. The owner welded the chassis up at the Kunawarritji workshop (not sure he knew anything about welding from the look of the welds - but anyway), lashed some chains around the chassis rails and the rear spring packs and then lashed some heavy duty ratchet straps from the tray structure over the roof and to the bull bar to further brace the chassis.

His initial intention after repairs was to take one of the exit routes out of the CSR and head home but after admiring his handiwork he thought better of it and headed north to finish his CSR adventure. He said "it didn't fail as badly as what he expected" :D

Would like to know how he got on.

LandyAndy
28th August 2015, 08:25 PM
A relation's Triton has twice cracked its trayside after having a top brand-name canopy installed. Had to have extra bracing welded into place. If you look at them sideways almost all of the tray is behind the rear wheels, so its no wonder they bend.
I have also seen a Mazda BT 50 dual cab which bent its chassis while crossing the Simpson heavily loaded.
No way I'd put 400 litres of diesel in the tray of a Triton, or most other utes for that matter.

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My poor old 2006 rodeo dualcab has coped ok,almost done 290000ks.It gets used to fuel the grader and other machines,hopefully finally geting a 4x4 will improve the situation.
Dont get me started on the lack of utes at work and buying secondhand ones:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Andrew