When did the electrics go under the seat on Defenders?

[DonTom]

Hi all,

I recently bought an '02 Defender 110 TD5. Previously I owned a '98 Defender 130 300tdi.

I had the windscreen wipers fail on me. To my horror, I discovered a bunch of relays etc sitting under my seat where I used to keep a camping stove! (yep, I discovered the windscreen wiper electrics don't live there, but...)

Does anyone know the model year when they shifted the electronics here?

Doesn't make much sense to me, mounting that stuff on a vibrating alloy diaphragm, closer to water ingress than before.

Or am I just being paranoid?

Cheers,
Tom

[Bushie]

Pretty sure they went under the seat with the Td5 - so 1999?

Martyn

[cripesamighty]

Tom,

It seems that Mulgo didn't think this was a good idea either...... :)

Mulgo Expedition Vehicles ? Mulgo Exbox (http://www.mulgo.com.au/portfolio/mulgo-exbox/)



Cheers,

Cripesamighty

[DonTom]

Tom,

It seems that Mulgo didn't think this was a good idea either...... :)

Mulgo Expedition Vehicles ? Mulgo Exbox (http://www.mulgo.com.au/portfolio/mulgo-exbox/)



Cheers,

Cripesamighty

By Cripes, that's good. Keep 'em coming! Anyone here had problems with the under seat electrics?

[lump_a_charcoal]

Nope, because I put them into a Mulgo exbox.

Great mod, and makes room under the seat.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=95471&stc=1&d=1434970391

Here are all the relays and fuses that I installed under the lid.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=95472&stc=1&d=1434970999
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=95474&stc=1&d=1434971365

Don't look at the loose fig8 cable, it was temporary.

[numpty]

So you left the computer stuff under the seat?

[MLD]

Lump-a-Charcoal - your ex-box puts me to shame. Mine is a birds nest and you have more stuff in yours than i have. I'm embarrassed. MLD

[lump_a_charcoal]

So you left the computer stuff under the seat?

Nope, my computer is on the firewall.

All that's in the box now is a toolbox and an ARB compressor, plumbed to the bonnet safe.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[lump_a_charcoal]

Lump-a-Charcoal - your ex-box puts me to shame. Mine is a birds nest and you have more stuff in yours than i have. I'm embarrassed. MLD

I'm an electrician, so don't feel too bad.:p

[85 county]

Nope, my computer is on the firewall.

All that's in the box now is a toolbox and an ARB compressor, plumbed to the bonnet safe.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


OH i like that, where did you get that from or did you make it?

[lump_a_charcoal]

Got it from Mudstuff in the UK.

Make sure you're sitting down when you see the price...

[El Rey]

I'm an electrician, so don't feel too bad.:p

Hi, would you be willing to say how many hours a non-electrician should expect to pay an auto sparky to install the Ex Box to the standard you have achieved with yours?

If not, no worries.


I have a mate who's a sparky by trade, and he rewired my classic Fiat from the headlights back to the under-dash loom, as well as replacing the wiring for the rear lights and interior lights, moving the battery to the boot and installing an aftermarket fuel pump.
This was in the middle of summer, in an uninsulted tin shed, and were all down to our daks by the end of it. I could see he was really suffering but the level of professionalism was amazing. He didn't just redo the 70's Italian spaghetti, he made it simpler, more logical and much neater. He even built a fuse panel with a secure cover that sits in the passenger footwell under the carpet - so that it could be got to easily instead of contorting upside down under the dash.

Your attention to detail reminds me of him.

[lump_a_charcoal]

Hi, would you be willing to say how many hours a non-electrician should expect to pay an auto sparky to install the Ex Box to the standard you have achieved with yours?

If not, no worries.


I have a mate who's a sparky by trade, and he rewired my classic Fiat from the headlights back to the under-dash loom, as well as replacing the wiring for the rear lights and interior lights, moving the battery to the boot and installing an aftermarket fuel pump.
This was in the middle of summer, in an uninsulted tin shed, and were all down to our daks by the end of it. I could see he was really suffering but the level of professionalism was amazing. He didn't just redo the 70's Italian spaghetti, he made it simpler, more logical and much neater. He even built a fuse panel with a secure cover that sits in the passenger footwell under the carpet - so that it could be got to easily instead of contorting upside down under the dash.

Your attention to detail reminds me of him.

I did a few hours a night, some nights a week, over the course of a few weeks, but I was doing a lot of electrical stuff all at once, which all went back to the Ex-box.
It included heated mirrors, two light bars (one on the roof), the traxide wiring upgrade as well as wiring for the compressor.
Because of all this, it took ages.
One thing that I did that I would recommend is running a multicore cable from the box to the dash. Mine is an 18 core (you can see the spare cores looped up in the pic). This means that any future switches or things can be installed, without needing to run more cables. When I finally install the dual battery setup and controller, the cable is already there for the dash switch, which uses 5 cores.

[El Rey]

I did a few hours a night, some nights a week, over the course of a few weeks, but I was doing a lot of electrical stuff all at once, which all went back to the Ex-box.
It included heated mirrors, two light bars (one on the roof), the traxide wiring upgrade as well as wiring for the compressor.
Because of all this, it took ages.
One thing that I did that I would recommend is running a multicore cable from the box to the dash. Mine is an 18 core (you can see the spare cores looped up in the pic). This means that any future switches or things can be installed, without needing to run more cables. When I finally install the dual battery setup and controller, the cable is already there for the dash switch, which uses 5 cores.

Suspected something of the sort. Thanks for the suggestion about the multicore cable, I'll add that to the list of upgrades. Going back for another perv at the pics in your build.

[numpty]

Nope, my computer is on the firewall.

All that's in the box now is a toolbox and an ARB compressor, plumbed to the bonnet safe.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=95476&stc=1&d=1434971886

Of course, as that's a Puma. Bit different with a Td5.

Nice work BTW.