Pressure Control valve replacement- 2.4

[POD]

After putting up with rough idle and cold stalling for some time, I finally had the PCV replaced last week, drove the 130 to work today (120km round trip) for the first time. I was amazed at the improvement in driveability, it is probably better than it has been in all the 90,000km that I have owned it. The all-too-familiar low RPM engine rattle seems to be gone too, even though I had come to understand that this was normal for these engines. I'll be interested to see what the fuel economy does now.

[n plus one]

Yep, it's a common issue with CRDs and the Transit motors in particular. Changed mine around 10k ago - I had intermittent loss of throttle response, not sorry to see the back of that!

[justinc]

I have just come across this in a puma 110. Intermittent power liss and check lamp. Switch off and on then fine for a bit. Towing 2t while this happens isnt nice!!

Jc

[deesse]

I once had loss of throttle response in my 2.4, stopped & had a look under the bonnet, at what? got back in & she was ok. What & where is the pressure control valve? I guess it's the fuel press. it's controlling. Ian

[n plus one]

I once had loss of throttle response in my 2.4, stopped & had a look under the bonnet, at what? got back in & she was ok. What & where is the pressure control valve? I guess it's the fuel press. it's controlling. Ian

It's on the back of the high pressure fuel pump: Diagnosing Common Rail Diesel Faults - the Suction Control Valve - Baileys Diesel Group On Highway (http://www.baileysdiesel.com/on-highway/diagnosing-common-rail-diesel-faults-suction-control-valve/)

[deesse]

So press. control valve & suction control valve is the same thing? Ian

[n plus one]

So press. control valve & suction control valve is the same thing? Ian

Yep, also called a Volume Control Valve, amongst other things.

[Scallops]

Had the same with my 2.4 a while back.....sorted with a new Volume Control Valve......just need to re-learn the injectors after changing. (I had MR Auto do all of this for me)

[deesse]

After having one experience with poor throttle response, albeit 9 mths. & 6k km. ago, I suppose I should fit one before it lets me down. Are there aftermarket ones that are better quality or do we have to put up with orig. 'quality'. Transit part maybe?

[deesse]

After having one experience with poor throttle response, albeit 9mths. & 6k km. ago, I suppose I'd better fit one b4 it lets me down. Do we have to buy orig. 'quality' or is there better aftermarket ones avail? Transit maybe?

[Scallops]

Genuine part isn't too expensive. Can't remember exact price but it's cheaper than anything else in the fuelling side of things.

[alien]

I was talking about this valve with someone not that long ago.
At the end of the discusion we came away with a couple of unanswered questions.

Do you have to do the pump/injector learn or is it only recommended?
Is it true there is limited learn features in the ECU?
Has there been any issues on the 2•2 motors?
(I see mostly 2•4 motors are mentioned)

[ATH]

I'm wondering if this thing in whatever name it goes by is the cause of my problems. 2010 2.4 110 with 147K on the clock.
Problem mostly shows it self on the first run in the morning particularly when it's cold....lift the foot on approaching a junction to turn left and I get this surging which can be quite pronounced at times and makes driving most uncomfortable.
I try juggling brake with throttle etc to pour on a bit of juice which helps and then it goes away as soon as more throttle is applied after rounding the corner.
Does it a bit less when the vehicle is warm.
Does it sound like this could be the problem?
Cheers.
Alan.

[dcale]

I have similar surging, but mainly when it is cold and slowly accelerating. Some times i would argue the engine nearly cuts out. I am keen to know the part number, cost and what is involved to change it out i.e. is it a home garage job?
Cheers
Darren

[n plus one]

I'd suggest checking out the Transit forums if you want to explore the full gamut of potential symptoms - hunting at idle when cold and throttle responder issues are typical.

From memory the part number is LR009837, but there seems to be a few incorrect descriptions on resellers web sites (something like fuel vapour valve) they're are $200 after market ($650 genuine from memory). They're a Transit part so plenty of options available to you.

Easy back yard change out (for the part) but you need to be able to do a fuel pump calibration/learn. A good Indy could do this for you, or a dealer (best of luck with that) or you could buy a Faultmate (~$1000) and do it yourself (and have a useful piece of diagnostic gear going forward).

[POD]

I bought the valve from ebay for $160, there are several sellers with parts that appear to be packaged for Thai domestic market only, Denso make them in Thailand it seems. I assume they have been exported on the sly. Pretty sure it is the exact same part from the exact same factory as if you bought from LR for triple the price. Search for transit valve or similar and several will come up.
There is a diesel injection specialist near me who has been around a long time and is a dealer for denso amongst others. Charged me $220 to do a system diagnostic test, fit the valve that I supplied and then do the pump learn.
Pretty sure you could fit the valve yourself, absolute cleanliness would be required.

[ATH]

Hi Pod. I've been looking at these on Ebay with a Denso part no. 294200-0360
Can you confirm this is correct type for a 2.4?
Cheers.
Alan.

[POD]

Hi Pod. I've been looking at these on Ebay with a Denso part no. 294200-0360
Can you confirm this is correct type for a 2.4?
Cheers.
Alan.

Yep that's what I bought.

[ATH]

Now all I've got to do is change the thing. How the hell do others get their hands in there to use an allen key to undo the bolts?
I thought of taking the inlet pipe off but that's attached to another pipe which goes off somewhere and I can't see where it could be disconnected.
Anyone else had problems accessing this valve for replacement?
Cheers.
AlanH.