Range in a 110

[jimr1]

G'day , I know this has been covered before , but could anyone with a 2.2 tell me what sort of Ks I can except in a 110 . I do know if I fill right up , I get a good 115 ks before the gauge drops to full , I have never let It get low , so was wondering what range I could expect if I run the fuel down on a long trip ? cheers !!.. Jim :)

[ezyrama]

I find I get about 550 km around town and about 700km on the highway usually. Doesn't vary too much when I have the camper attached. When the low fuel light comes on, I fill up within 30 km but always put less than 70 litre's in.
Cheers Ian

[cuppabillytea]

And there you have it, although I haven't yet done as well as 700.

[Col 110]

I get a good 115 ks before the gauge drops to full

When I picked up Mine from Dubbo it was full - and I noticed it went for a long while before I saw the guage come down to full - it was probably 100k+ into the trip. I was a bit worried it wasn't working :o

[cuppabillytea]

When I picked up Mine from Dubbo it was full - and I noticed it went for a long while before I saw the guage come down to full - it was probably 100k+ into the trip. I was a bit worried it wasn't working :o
They are all the same Col.

[PAT303]

It depends on road speed and winds with a defender,my Tdi gets around 700 and the TDCi about 650. Pat

[Beery]

It depends on road speed and winds with a defender,my Tdi gets around 700 and the TDCi about 650. Pat

Damn right it does. 110km/h and 120km/h makes about 100km range difference for me.

[Didge]

First time I checked my tdi, even allowing 5% for odometer over reading I got 850km. I thought I had an 85 litre tank but have been advised its 75 litres which would calculate out at 8.83 litres/ 100km but I'm generally satisfied with 9.5l/ 100 km and that doesn't seem to matter how hard I push the old girl on the hwy - off road, economy obviously plummets. In a Puma you're obviously sacrificing a bit of economy for performance and I reckon it's worth the sacrifice to arrive at a destination an hour earlier for a cost of $10 or so.

[n plus one]

Damn right it does. 110km/h and 120km/h makes about 100km range difference for me.

Yep, I've found the same too. In fact, the sweet spot for economy and comfort in mine (09 Puma on 33s) seems to be around 105km/h.

I normally float between 11 and 11.5 to the 100km, but the truck is lifted, has mud tyres, roof top tent, etc.

[simmo]

Hi guys, I used to do fuel economy on my Tdi, I think the fuel tank is closer to 80 liters than 75.
I routinely got about 9-10 / 100 kms, light without the roof rack, even fully loaded with roof rack usually about 10.5 I remember once doing sustained high speed, 110 km/hr. ( for a Tdi defender:D:D:D:D:D), on a motorway with the roof rack I got to 11.5 once. I could n't believe how economical it was to run, later on a realized i was about 5 or 6 km/hr less than I thought. Later with my 42 l sill tank, I once left home did a few days touring through the Victorian high country and refilled on the Hume highway on the way back 1100 kms between refueling, that's a fairly useful range.

[cuppabillytea]

Damn right it does. 110km/h and 120km/h makes about 100km range difference for me.
And that's probably why I never made 700.

[Beery]

And that's probably why I never made 700.

On my recent run from Dubbo to Darwin, I was consistently getting about 540km til the fuel light came on. Its a 130 though and I had about 600kg on the back plus a passenger and aircon on most of the time. Cruise control on 110km/h

[Andrew86]

Damn right it does. 110km/h and 120km/h makes about 100km range difference for me.

Barns are more aerodynamic, so that doesn't surprise me :p

[cuppabillytea]

On my recent run from Dubbo to Darwin, I was consistently getting about 540km til the fuel light came on. Its a 130 though and I had about 600kg on the back plus a passenger and aircon on most of the time. Cruise control on 110km/h
From Brisbane to Sydney I averaged 83.5 Km/Hr. Didn't do better than 650. Lugging a bigger truck and all that junk, I can understand those figures.

[jimr1]

Thanks for all your replies , I haven't done any long trips yet . It's good to know a ball park figure . I have a mate that has a 200 series Cruiser , he had lots of problems on a trip across the Simpson, he had to get extra fuel from his mates . I know we're talking two different vehicles . It's good to know your range so you can have enough fuel !!.. Jim .:)

[Summiitt]

On my recent run from Dubbo to Darwin, I was consistently getting about 540km til the fuel light came on. Its a 130 though and I had about 600kg on the back plus a passenger and aircon on most of the time. Cruise control on 110km/h

Spot on with my 130 beery, but I'm at 3-3500kg all the time, but I really don't worry about economy.. My diesel bill each month can get scary, the 130 is the least of my worries!

[2 rocks]

My 300Tdi 110 is about 800 to a tank, the 200Tdi Disco is about 900 a both standard tanks. The disco is a little more 'slippery' through the air, lol. And both use less than my Td5 D2, which irks me as I always assumed that common rail and computer would make it more efficient (it is on 32's though).
Cheers
Mike

[EastFreo]

Interestingly I hardly see any difference in my Puma fuel consumption (about 10.5 to 11litres per 100km) when I compare city or country driving (at around 105-110kph). However once I hit 120kph it's like my fuel gauge falls in front of my eyes.

[jimr1]

At the moment I still have 3 x 110s An old v8 county , with a 4.4 lt on gas , that does about 700ks. " that's petrol and gas " I brought a disco 2 td5 , now that was good on fuel , but I never liked driving It as much as the County . So that went , and I brought a td5 extreme , Now that is a lot better than the v8 on fuel , but we all know that . So I had what I wanted in a 110 , but with the td5 engine . I've been very happy with the Extreme and love It . Times move on . So now I have a 2.2 Puma . I don't think It is as good on fuel as the Extreme is on fuel , and that surprises me because It is only 4 cylinder , and a bit less capacity . They are both 90kw so would expect about the same economy . In saying that I do like my new 110 !!..:)

[Beery]

At the moment I still have 3 x 110s An old v8 county , with a 4.4 lt on gas , that does about 700ks. " that's petrol and gas " I brought a disco 2 td5 , now that was good on fuel , but I never liked driving It as much as the County . So that went , and I brought a td5 extreme , Now that is a lot better than the v8 on fuel , but we all know that . So I had what I wanted in a 110 , but with the td5 engine . I've been very happy with the Extreme and love It . Times move on . So now I have a 2.2 Puma . I don't think It is as good on fuel as the Extreme is on fuel , and that surprises me because It is only 4 cylinder , and a bit less capacity . They are both 90kw so would expect about the same economy . In saying that I do like my new 110 !!..:)

All the emissions control garbage holds them back these days I reckon. EGR and catalytic converters didnt plague the 300tdi and older engines.

[Col 110]

At the moment I still have 3 x 110s An old v8 county , with a 4.4 lt on gas , that does about 700ks. " that's petrol and gas " I brought a disco 2 td5 , now that was good on fuel , but I never liked driving It as much as the County . So that went , and I brought a td5 extreme , Now that is a lot better than the v8 on fuel , but we all know that . So I had what I wanted in a 110 , but with the td5 engine . I've been very happy with the Extreme and love It . Times move on . So now I have a 2.2 Puma . I don't think It is as good on fuel as the Extreme is on fuel , and that surprises me because It is only 4 cylinder , and a bit less capacity . They are both 90kw so would expect about the same economy . In saying that I do like my new 110 !!..:)
I find it interesting to read about the experience of others owning these 110 with different engine configurations.

For me - this is my 1st 4cyl turbo diesel and 1st 4WD - when buying the 2.2l 110 I never really thought much about fuel consumption - I knew it was going to be better.

I came from a 5.7 V8 auto Holden X8 with a similar sized tank - I was lucky to get 20l / 100k when towing my van - and around 14-15l / 100k around town depending on the fuel.

So funny to be driving the 110 wiith a new motor - and driving it with purpose. I have done close to 1000k so can't comment on milage - nice to see over 500k before I thought about filling up - and only then because it was convenient!

It will be interesting to see what happens when I get the van hooked up - around 1.8t fully loaded - by all accounts it won't add too much to the consumption.

[Beery]

Again, not a 110, but I've just done 640km til the fuel light in the 130.

Thats mostly just driving to and from work here in Darwin, 60km round trip each day, unloaded, aircon about half the time, mostly 80km/h.

Works out to 10.5L/100km

It seems to be improving with a few k's on it, just ticked over 11,000km.

Cheers
Tom

[cuppabillytea]

Again, not a 110, but I've just done 640km til the fuel light in the 130.

Thats mostly just driving to and from work here in Darwin, 60km round trip each day, unloaded, aircon about half the time, mostly 80km/h.

Works out to 10.5L/100km

It seems to be improving with a few k's on it, just ticked over 11,000km.

Cheers
Tom
Hi Tom. I think from a fuel economy point of view, you live in the the ideal world. Actually, or probably, from many points of view.
Here in inner City Sydney, Its stop, start, speed hump, turn, repeat. My warning light comes on at 550-70 most of the time. Last fill up I did get to 650 but that included a trip out to Penrith and back and every second trip to work was on the Easter Distributer. Saves time, cost $$$$$.
Cheers, Billy.

[DiscoMick]

With a 110 litre tank, my 110 does about 450kms before the needle starts to drop below full, as the sender must still be in the original position. I'm not exactly sure of the precise total range but its certainly over 1000 kms. Averaging about 10.5 l/100kms, but recently with two fat kayaks on the roof racks that rose to 13 l/100 kms. Keeping it just above 2000 revs certainly helps the fuel economy.

[Surrufus]

Filled my 2015 2.2 110 for the first time yesterday.
I hit 600km when the fuel light came on, and I did about another 20 to 30 before filling up. Filled the tank to the first "click".
Worked out at almost exactly 11L/100km, and I haven't been babying her around.

[MrLandy]

Filled my 2015 2.2 110 for the first time yesterday.
I hit 600km when the fuel light came on, and I did about another 20 to 30 before filling up. Filled the tank to the first "click".
Worked out at almost exactly 11L/100km, and I haven't been babying her around.

Hey that's good...is that for kms around town? Or long highway run?
I'm lucky if I get 500km per tank. 2014 2.2 @ 30,000k. Hmm

[simmo]

you have a fuel light ? luxury.

My fuel gauge is typical of defenders I think, no movement for about the first 1/4 of a tank :). By the time I get to half a tank I probably have only a 1/3 tank left, the bottom half of the tank empties quickly. I don't worry too much, when it gets into the red, I change to the aux tank, (42 l) and start looking fora fuel station. My aux tank has the same characteristic, because it has a land rover level sender fitted. The change over lever operates two x 2 way valves and a micro switch that changes over the gauge sender as well.

[MrLandy]

you have a fuel light ? luxury.

My fuel gauge is typical of defenders I think, no movement for about the first 1/4 of a tank :). By the time I get to half a tank I probably have only a 1/3 tank left, the bottom half of the tank empties quickly. I don't worry too much, when it gets into the red, I change to the aux tank, (42 l) and start looking fora fuel station. My aux tank has the same characteristic, because it has a land rover level sender fitted. The change over lever operates two x 2 way valves and a micro switch that changes over the gauge sender as well.

And how many k's do you get to a tank simmo? My tdi (320,000km) gets around 600-650. Which is a lot better than my puma. Again hmm.

...incidently, gauges in both vehicles do exactly as you describe.

[Col 110]

Hey that's good...is that for kms around town? Or long highway run?
I'm lucky if I get 500km per tank. 2014 2.2 @ 30,000k. Hmm
I filled up for the second time on Sunday with around 1100km on the speedo - did 560km for 65l which would be around 11.7l / 100k. This is semi rural / town driving - and mostly doing between 2k - 3.5k RPM i.e. not taking it easy and making sure I am using the engine. Should mention that the 110 has nothing added apart from a Heyman Reece 3.5t Towbar - so pretty much standard.

[dromader driver]

in the highly streamlined trayback the fuel consumption generally is with less than half a tonne on the back
95km/hr indicated 9.5l per 100km
100km/hr indicated 10 l per 100km

my old hz ute had significantly better fuel economy with the torneau cover on compared with the back open


long range cruise in not much traffic at 90 km hr on multi lane highway seems to sit just below turbocharger whine at 9 litres 100km and seems to be a comfortable speed.

There is a write up on a truck freight company that found sitting on 90 km/hr indicated saved lots in fuel and didn't increase the travel time by much. Will try to find it

[Surrufus]

Hey that's good...is that for kms around town? Or long highway run?
I'm lucky if I get 500km per tank. 2014 2.2 @ 30,000k. Hmm

That was around town, but I just realised that it's probably not very accurate, as it also includes the delivery kilometres, and I have no idea exactly how much fuel the dealership put in it.

[simmo]

My average is 10 l/100 kms out of town including offroad, usally about 700 kms before i change tanks. Thats what I use for planning fuel stops. For me that's about 1100 kms, with 10 L reserve. I can drive from Melbourne to Brisbane with one fuel stop in Dubbo. But then I only drive at 100 kms hour most of the time, maybe 105 of the freeway. I find when off road the fuel consumption is not too bad because your traveling slowly and there's not much wind resistance to take into account. For my planned Simpson desert crossing I'll use about 12.5 l/100 kms ( no trailer) consumption for planning, my range would be about 880 kms, even at 13.75 l/100 kms I would be Ok for 800 kms.

[MrLandy]

Thanks Simmo, yeah I reckon I could squeeze 700 out of a tank from tdi if I sat strictly on 100km/hr. Haven't tried that in puma yet 😀 ...but reckon I'll give it a go next tank. I usually sit on speed limit 110km/hr

[DiscoMick]

I can drive Brisbane-Sydney on a tank of fuel, but I don't want to risk running out on a motorway so usually top up, in Newcastle if heading south or on the Gold Coast if heading north. That 110 litre tank is really useful.
I've been thinking I might add a 40 litre rear quarter tank one day, once I've finished spending my limited $ on more urgent accessories. It would be great to have 150 litres on board for remote travel.

[MrLandy]

I can drive Brisbane-Sydney on a tank of fuel, but I don't want to risk running out on a motorway so usually top up, in Newcastle if heading south or on the Gold Coast if heading north. That 110 litre tank is really useful.
I've been thinking I might add a 40 litre rear quarter tank one day, once I've finished spending my limited $ on more urgent accessories. It would be great to have 150 litres on board for remote travel.

So is that around 11.5-12l per 100km?
Do you have a roof rack? What speed would you sit on for the 950km?

[cuppabillytea]

So is that around 11.5-12l per 100km?
Do you have a roof rack? What speed would you sit on for the 950km?
On my last trip from Brisbane I averaged 83.5 Km/Hr. Almost the entire Northern Rivers district is 80 Km/Hr due to road works. Most of the rest of the trip is now 110 Km/hr. I used 10.5 to the Hundred. No roof rack.
Cheers, Billy.

[MrLandy]

On my last trip from Brisbane I averaged 83.5 Km/Hr. Almost the entire Northern Rivers district is 80 Km/Hr due to road works. Most of the rest of the trip is now 110 Km/hr. I used 10.5 to the Hundred. No roof rack.
Cheers, Billy.

Thanks CBT, that's pretty good. Interesting...and yours is a 2.2 Defender?
Hmm I'm only getting more like 13-14l per 100km driving at speed limit. Perhaps having a roof rack makes that much difference! It didn't seem to with my 300 tdi (I've moved the rack over to puma). Might try taking the rack off for a while, see how I go.

[alien]

Our 2.2 does it hard most trips as it's set up for touring and does 1/2 it's life towing.
I get a fairly constant 15/100Km regardless of terrain.
I've found little difference in consumption at either 80,100 or 110 Km/h.
It's happiest at 108km/h as it holds in the hills better being up in the torque range.
Last trip using cruise control where possible had no effect on fuel consumption but made driving so much easier.


The 110 weighs in at 2.65ton all the time.
We never remove the tools/recovery gear/water/etc..
With the Tvan on we gross at 4.10ton.

[cuppabillytea]

Yes MrLandy, Mine is a 2.2 but it does have the BAS remap. I think that gives it a little better economy on a trip but doesn't make much difference around town.

[MrLandy]

Changing brand of fuel improves economy... Very interesting...last weekend I filled up for a trip with Mobil diesel for a change and the economy from that tank was 2l per 100km better than I've been getting previously!

....Mostly I fill up with Caltex on my work card or for convenience. Caltex I'm using 13-14l per 100km. Mobil I used 11.5l per 100km! (All with roof rack and driving to highway speed limits) Obviously one tankful isn't definitive but it was a stark difference. Has anyone else noticed a different brand is better for fuel economy?

[DiscoMick]

Have you tried BP as its supposed to be the best quality fuel?

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[JoeFriend]

I use Shell as much as possible, seems to run better in mine and has better economy - like an extra 100kms a tank better.

The only plus side to BP for me is the anti foaming additives are a bit better so its slightly quicker to fill.

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[Bushie]

Couple of observations,

From my perspective (and I drive a 300Tdi) the different brands of fuel seem to be irrevevant, having filled up with fuel from many varied (and some isolated) places, I cant say I have noticed much if any variation in economy.

Judging range/consumption over a tank or two doesn't give any meaningful data, different filling temps, different bowser cutoffs etc means you cant get reliable and repeatable quantities, combine this with short term variations in driving conditions, means the figures are unreliable.
You need to be looking over multiple tanks, and 1000s of km to get good figures. A single tank may highlight something along the lines of a fuel leak etc but not accurate consumption figures.



Martyn

[DiscoMick]

Diesel fuel has to meet the standards described here:
Fuel Quality in Australia - Diesel fuel quality standard (http://www.environment.gov.au/topics/environment-protection/fuel-quality/standards/diesel)
So, it would be surprising if there was much difference in the quality of diesel.
The main argument seems to be with petrol, about whether there is a significant advantage in using 95 or 98 vs 91. Some say yes, some no. It may depend on the tuning of the petrol engine, as some do seem to run better on 95 or 98 than on 91.

[MrLandy]

Yes I was very surprised that there could be that much difference, but it really seems there was. Yes more testing required and I'll try BP and Shell too.

[cuppabillytea]

I use Caltex because it has Techron in it. I have to admit that I completely swallowed the blurb, without checking whether it works. I also get my 4 cents per Litre Woolies discount (after they add 4 cents to the later on).

Shame Billy Shame. I'm such a lazy mug sometimes. :D

[MrLandy]

What is techron anyway? How would you even know if I'd made any difference to whatever?

[DiscoMick]

What is techron anyway? How would you even know if I'd made any difference to whatever?
Here you go:


Techron is an additive technology that works to get the most out of your engine thanks to our patented fuel additive technology which is trusted by motorists, mechanics and auto manufacturers the world over. You can use Techron and when you do it will clean your engine, leading to better performance, lower emissions and maximum fuel economy.


Gasoline & Fuel System Cleaning Additives (http://www.techron.com/)

[Beery]

Here you go:


Techron is an additive technology that works to get the most out of your engine thanks to our patented fuel additive technology which is trusted by motorists, mechanics and auto manufacturers the world over. You can use Techron and when you do it will clean your engine, leading to better performance, lower emissions and maximum fuel economy.


Gasoline & Fuel System Cleaning Additives (http://www.techron.com/)

Caltex Australia website doesn't say anything about Techron being added to its diesel.

The Techron website also doesn't list Australia as a country where its product is added to Caltex fuel.

[MrLandy]

:Rolling:...but it's Techron! ...and apparently it "works to get the most out of your engine thanks to our patented fuel additive technology which is trusted by motorists, mechanics and auto manufacturers the world over." No doubt named after it's inventor, Ron, who is a really technically savvy and trustworthy guy. ...but wait there's more... 😝

If you look really closely at that techron map (Buy Chevron, Texaco & Caltex with Techron (http://www.techron.com/where-to-get-techron/Default.aspx)), techron is apparently added to Caltex fuel in New Zealand, Kangaroo Island and some mythical island just off Darwin!

How does it work? Apparently "Power Cleans Your Engine". :Rolling:
"Techron is based on a unique compound containing oxygen" ...you mean... like... air? :Rolling:

My question is, how would anyone even know if the engine was running 'cleaner'?

[cuppabillytea]

Oh no I've bought Snake Oil again. :eek:

[DiscoMick]

Don't worry, sure you're not alone.

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