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crash
11th October 2015, 04:12 PM
As the title says - who will win out of Rossi and Lorenzo?
3 races to go and 18 points the difference.
All Rossi real needs to do is finish one spot behind Lorenzo and he will finish at the top. It is looking like coming down to the last race.
Pedrosa has had some great riding in the past 2 races. Him and Marquez could be the deciding factor as to who wins the championship.

V8Ian
13th October 2015, 07:50 AM
Rossi has the ability but not the gear. He's made a fantastic comeback.

Pedro_The_Swift
13th October 2015, 08:25 AM
Rossi will win.
He has picked his battles with great thought this year.

gusthedog
13th October 2015, 08:57 AM
Unfortunately Rossi will win. I'm amongst the minority that think Rossi is a giant arrogant douche:wasntme:. The way he has treated people thoughout his career is a disgrace but he is uncannily good with the media and fans love him as a result. Until a few years ago Lorenzo was the same (arrogant - he's still not great with the media:D) but he has really grown up in recent years. I was really hoping he'd close the gap to 5 points in Japan but Rossi's smooth consistent style won out. The same style that Rossi couldn't adapt to the Ducati. But that's another argument for another forum topic....:p

18 points is too much with three rounds left. If it gets close, people will see the real Rossi. Just ask Stoner about that move in Laguna Seca and "ambition outweighing talent"......

Redback
13th October 2015, 11:44 AM
I'm going for Lorenzo, I just think he can do it, and I think the two hondas will have something to do with it, not intensionally though.

crash
13th October 2015, 07:33 PM
I'm going for Lorenzo, I just think he can do it, and I think the two hondas will have something to do with it, not intensionally though.

I have to agree with this, I think the Hondas will have a lot to do with it. It all depends on who Pedrosa / Marquez decide who they would like out of the Yamahas to win the championship.

I am a Yamaha fan, would like to see Rossi get his 10th championship, but on the other hand I would like to see Lorenzo take the Championship.

Bring on the last 3 races.

TeamFA
14th October 2015, 08:16 AM
I'm amongst the minority that think Rossi is a giant arrogant douche:wasntme:. The way he has treated people thoughout his career is a disgrace but he is uncannily good with the media and fans love him as a result.

We're also part of that group... is it still a minority?

dfendr
14th October 2015, 08:31 AM
As rossi is taller and at least 5 kg Heavier than his rivals he is at a disadvantage
I hope he wins

gusthedog
14th October 2015, 09:21 AM
We're also part of that group... is it still a minority?

Well I was trying to be nice as Rossi fans are generally one-eyed and extremely passionate :D

Redback
14th October 2015, 12:21 PM
As rossi is taller and at least 5 kg Heavier than his rivals he is at a disadvantage
I hope he wins

Rossi is 1.82cm and 67kg

Lorenzo is 1.71cm and 66kg

So no real advantage and at that level with all that HP, just comes down to who is better on the day.

dfendr
14th October 2015, 04:09 PM
You are right but rossi 9 cm taller than Lorenzo and ran out of fuel in 3 races in 25013
Dani Pedrosa is 1.60m and 51kg, with Repsol Honda team-mate and reigning world champion Marc Marquez 1.68m and 59kg.
So the honda riders have a considerable weight advantage

Pickles2
15th October 2015, 07:23 AM
I don't know, but I hope Rossi does.
Pickles.

gusthedog
15th October 2015, 11:48 AM
I don't know, but I hope Rossi does.
Pickles.

My list of people I'd like to win doesn't have Rossi on it. I'd even prefer an Espargaro brother win over him and they're so into themselves it's not funny :D

jerryd
18th October 2015, 04:13 PM
I'm hoping the championship will be decided at the last race :) Today's race at Phillip Island was very entertaining, especially the last few laps.

Pedro_The_Swift
18th October 2015, 04:18 PM
330KPH!!!:eek:

Pickles2
18th October 2015, 05:19 PM
BRILLIANT race at the Island today. Definitely one of the best I've seen.
Rossi did his best, I'd say he was the best through the curvy/twisty stuff, but was outgunned on the straights,...no matter, a most entertaining race.
Pickles.

Redback
19th October 2015, 06:59 AM
Outstanding race, Lorenzo nearly had it, but Marco had an amazing last lap, best ride goes to Lorenzo, he managed to hold off the faster bikes almost to the end, Marquez just does what he does best, pulled off an amazing last lap.

Great race, pretty disapppointing crowd though.

gusthedog
19th October 2015, 07:37 AM
BRILLIANT race at the Island today. Definitely one of the best I've seen.
Rossi did his best, I'd say he was the best through the curvy/twisty stuff, but was outgunned on the straights,...no matter, a most entertaining race.
Pickles.

I'd agree about the entertaining race. One of the best in years. Not so much about Rossi in the twisties as he and Lorenzo are on the same bike and Lorenzo beat him :wasntme: Marquez was absolutely amazing in that last lap. Made up over a second and set the fastest lap of the race.

How was that double overtake by the maniac on Rossi and Marquez? So good to see Iannone fighting at the front. Doubly good that he beat Rossi on a bike Rossi proved he can't ride :D

Pickles2
19th October 2015, 08:06 AM
I'd agree about the entertaining race. One of the best in years. Not so much about Rossi in the twisties as he and Lorenzo are on the same bike and Lorenzo beat him :wasntme: Marquez was absolutely amazing in that last lap. Made up over a second and set the fastest lap of the race.

How was that double overtake by the maniac on Rossi and Marquez? So good to see Iannone fighting at the front. Doubly good that he beat Rossi on a bike Rossi proved he can't ride :D
Obviously you're not a Rossi fan?
I don't know enough about bikes to really comment (cars are my go!), I don't even watch many of the bike races, but I did REALLY enjoy this one,..don't see how anyone couldn't, SO CLOSE, right from the start.
The leaning "angles" of these riders is, to me, unbelieveable, I keep thinking they're gonna slide over! The tyres must be really special, just can't understand how they can still grip on those angles!!
Pickles

gusthedog
19th October 2015, 08:52 AM
Obviously you're not a Rossi fan?
I don't know enough about bikes to really comment (cars are my go!), I don't even watch many of the bike races, but I did REALLY enjoy this one,..don't see how anyone couldn't, SO CLOSE, right from the start.
The leaning "angles" of these riders is, to me, unbelieveable, I keep thinking they're gonna slide over! The tyres must be really special, just can't understand how they can still grip on those angles!!
Pickles

Yeah sorry not a Rossi fan. When you criticise Mick Doohan and Stoner, take a crap on Jeremy Burgess, carry on like a petulant school girl with tyre and bike manufacturers demanding special attention that no one else in the paddock receives, travel the world with an entourage telling you how great you are and ride like an arrogant *****, I tend to lose any respect I might have for you. :wasntme: But that's another story :p.

But yes, what a race. Best at the Island in memory and one of the greatest flag to flag battles I can remember.

The tyres are great but the riders are just amazing. To push so close to the edge for so long and still have a 4 way battle for the lead is just awesome. It'd be great if all the races were so close (and not just between the top 5 in the standings). But all Dorna's silly rules make it so. I'd like it iff the motogp races were as close as the moto2 or 3. And I'd love if chanel 10 showed all the moto2 and 3 races each round again.

Redback
19th October 2015, 11:37 AM
Obviously you're not a Rossi fan?
I don't know enough about bikes to really comment (cars are my go!), I don't even watch many of the bike races, but I did REALLY enjoy this one,..don't see how anyone couldn't, SO CLOSE, right from the start.
The leaning "angles" of these riders is, to me, unbelieveable, I keep thinking they're gonna slide over! The tyres must be really special, just can't understand how they can still grip on those angles!!
Pickles

I've been riding(raced for 15/20yrs) bikes since I was 13(now 60) and even I'm amazed at the angles the're at now, I remember years ago when they released the VF750 Honda(1982) it had a possible lean angle of 49deg, Honda reckoned that was the limit of angle any bike could go.

Now they can get to 62deg, that is amazing:eek:

Pickles2
19th October 2015, 11:47 AM
I've been riding(raced for 15/20yrs) bikes since I was 13(now 60) and even I'm amazed at the angles their at now, I remember years ago when they released the VFR750 Honda, it had a possible lean angle of 49deg, Honda reckoned that was the limit of angle any bike could go.

Now they can get to 62deg, that is amazing:eek:
All good, I go back to the days to when the Triumph Bonneville (2 X Amals, 44bhp!) was King, Marlon Brando on his Triumph in "The Wild One" etc, but I've never owned a bike, so don't know much about them.
A friend of mine did own a Vincent, in the sixties, a chap called John Hartnett, don't know what model it was, but it was IMMACULATE, always covered, I think it had some sort of fairing on it, can't remember the details, just that it was beautiful.
Pickles.

crash
19th October 2015, 09:19 PM
If you were going to watch just one Moto GP race this year, Phillip Island was the one to watch!
Worse thing about that race is I owe my mate a bottle - he was going for Honda - I for Yamaha. I was yelling at the tele for a lot of it.
Close racing, and great passing.

Down to 11 points and 2 races left.

Talking about the lean angles - Mick Doohan use to wear the side of his boots out, now they are putting sliders on the riders elbows.

gusthedog
23rd October 2015, 05:40 AM
And the real Rossi finally appears

Rossi: ?Marquez would prefer Lorenzo to win? (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/22/rossi-marquez-would-prefer-lorenzo-to-win/187955)

What a giant douche. Marquez isn't evil Rossi you ****. He's just more up and down than a yo yo. Using your profile to try and suggest Marquez is being underhanded and trying to carry out a personal vendetta is beyond a joke. I so hope Lorenzo wins! Wait, does that make me evil too because I don't want you to win princess?

Marquez might have been upset about Assen because you were an aggressive *****. That's it. Nothing more. I'm sure he's over it by the way. ;)

Redback
23rd October 2015, 08:47 AM
And the real Rossi finally appears

Rossi: ?Marquez would prefer Lorenzo to win? (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/22/rossi-marquez-would-prefer-lorenzo-to-win/187955)

What a giant douche. Marquez isn't evil Rossi you ****. He's just more up and down than a yo yo. Using your profile to try and suggest Marquez is being underhanded and trying to carry out a personal vendetta is beyond a joke. I so hope Lorenzo wins! Wait, does that make me evil too because I don't want you to win princess?

Marquez might have been upset about Assen because you were an aggressive *****. That's it. Nothing more. I'm sure he's over it by the way. ;)

Having raced myself, I think Rossi should know better, everyone is out there to win and to win no matter what, whether it's GP or club style racing, when I was racing, as long as you weren't being lapped, it was game on, whether you were fighting for 1st or 10th:twisted:
I seem to remember him getting in the way of riders fighting for the title when he had no chance, sponcers play a big part in racing(any sport) please the sponsers and you get more money and benifits.

Also if you use his theroy Innoni is playing this game also, I think Rossi needs to give himself a few uppercuts, because if that's what it takes to win the title, then that's what it takes, he just lucky Pedrosa was off his game, otherwise he would have been up there fighting for the win, next round is Malaysia, Pedrosa usually does well there, as does Marquez and Lorenzo, so pull your head in and look out Rossi.

Pedro_The_Swift
25th October 2015, 07:13 PM
Oh dear Mr Rossi,,
what have you done,,,,,:(

crash
25th October 2015, 07:39 PM
I just lost all respect for Rossi! I was hoping for him to win his 10th championship - which is a great achievement - now I hope Lorenzo takes it.

afb
25th October 2015, 08:07 PM
3 penalty points for Rossi, which means he starts from the back of the grid in Valencia. Not quite enough of a penalty for such a move.

gusthedog
26th October 2015, 05:12 AM
One of the worst displays of sportsmanship in memory. Words off the the track is one thing but that was too far.

It sucks for Pedrosa. He ran a great race but that won't be remembered. He has the worst luck.

Pedro_The_Swift
26th October 2015, 06:51 AM
Valentino Rossi penalized for causing Marc Marquez crash (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/25/valentino-rossi-penalized-marc-marquez-crash-video/)

weeds
26th October 2015, 08:42 AM
Rubbing is racing isn't it........

Jokes aside he should have his race licence taken of him.

Pedro_The_Swift
26th October 2015, 10:32 AM
I think not having a shot at winning the title is punishment enough--;)

gusthedog
26th October 2015, 10:48 AM
I think not having a shot at winning the title is punishment enough--;)

Unless Lorenzo crashes, is taken out or has a mechanical failure. It ain't over til it's over in motorcycle racing. ;)

crash
26th October 2015, 07:27 PM
Unless Lorenzo crashes, is taken out or has a mechanical failure. It ain't over til it's over in motorcycle racing. ;)

Rossi still has 4 points over Lorenzo - we will not know until the checker flag comes out. Worse part is the race is on at 11:30pm.

gusthedog
26th October 2015, 09:06 PM
Rossi still has 4 points over Lorenzo - we will not know until the checker flag comes out. Worse part is the race is on at 11:30pm.

I think it's 7 points but it's not many anyway ;)

I always record the later races and watch them the next day. It's he'll trying to avoid the media until you want to watch the replay.

ADMIRAL
26th October 2015, 09:21 PM
One of the worst displays of sportsmanship in memory. Words off the the track is one thing but that was too far.

It sucks for Pedrosa. He ran a great race but that won't be remembered. He has the worst luck.
....and the punishment doesn't fit the crime. He should have lost any points from that race, and been suspended for at least one more event. Symbolically, they should have taken the championship off him then and there. I don't believe it is enough to reduce his chances. What if Lorenzo crashes out. Do we see a world championship awarded to him after that !!

Vinnie
26th October 2015, 09:48 PM
It's such a pitty that Rossi has had to resort to such dirty tactics. I used to be a huge Rossi fan, and still am a fan to a degree. He rates in my mind as one of (if not the) best I've seen. My favourites are Doohan and Stoner. As previously mentioned he, up until he left Yamaha for Ducati had the best of everything in any team he has ridden for, but does seem to sook it up when things aren't or don't go his way. It's such a shame because in days gone by (whether or not he had the advantage with equipment) he would have simply put his head down and tried to out race Marquez, but now he's playing dirty and blaming conspiracy theories, rather than accepting the fact that some others are just as good if not better. He has done a great job this year and I believe if Lorenzo hadn't of fallen off a few times then he wouldn't be in front, but that's why he is, he has scored points in every round, so why didn't he just keep racing Marquez and try to beat him? I believe he knew he couldn't and that's why now I hope that Lorenzo wins the last race and Rossi finished off the podium, but I'm sure he'll still blame someone else. Maybe its time for him to retire?

Vinnie

Pedro_The_Swift
29th October 2015, 07:49 AM
Maybe it wasnt Rossi at all!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

Yamaha Motobot autonomous motorcycle rider taunts Rossi (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/28/yamaha-motobot-robot-motorcycle-rider-video/)

gusthedog
29th October 2015, 08:55 AM
Maybe it wasnt Rossi at all!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

Yamaha Motobot autonomous motorcycle rider taunts Rossi (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/28/yamaha-motobot-robot-motorcycle-rider-video/)

Is it programmed to run people off the track too? :wasntme:

Redback
29th October 2015, 10:41 AM
I got around to watching the race last night, they had an ad break when it happened, I love ch10:twisted: anyway, what a clown, apart from the act itself, what if Marquez had of been injured, or worse, just an absolute stupid thing to do.

I knew Pedrosa would do well, shame his win will be over shadowed by Rossi's stupidity, if I was Rossie, I'd be careful at the next round, he might find himself on the recieving end of a bit of payback, I don't think he'll do what Rossi did to him, but I reckon he get a bit more of what he got, Marquez will be all over him like a rash.

So even if this is a tie, just in case he may come 3rd and Lorenzo wins, it will go to Lorenzo because he's won more races, which to me would be Karma and THE best result, so I'm hoping Rossi comes 3rd:D

crash
2nd November 2015, 07:24 PM
My prediction for the race is Pedrosa to win, Lorenzo 2nd with Marquez 3rd, followed by the 2 Ducati's. Rossi should be good enough to get into 6th or 7th spot if he does not get caught up with slower riders.
Lorenzo will win the championship - Rossi will crack the sads and you will not see him after 2016 season.
Yamaha will have its work cut out for them next year to keep Rossi and Lorenzo from fighting.

p38arover
4th November 2015, 06:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56WLv3wsMGY