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Rosco
23rd July 2005, 07:48 AM
Some time back there was a thread about the usual water ingress into Defenders. At the time I stated I was making a PITA of myself with the stealer over this issue.

They relaced and adjusted the door seals on a couple of occasions .... all to no avail :evil: :evil:

During our last lot of wet weather I looked carefully and noted the inside of the door rubbers was dry whilst water was still cascading down the front just inside of both doors. I determined it appeared to be leaking along the rubber seal across the front immediately below the gutter and above the front vents .. ( the seals of which have also been replaced).

Booked the beast in for the 50K service and again went to town venting my spleen :twisted: :twisted:

Upon my return to retrieve said beast I was advised it is to be booked into the local panel shop who will need it for a couple of days .. A couple of days says I, why so long just to goop up the seal :?: :?: :?:

Oh no sir, says the stealer, it will be major surgery where they will be removing the entire windscreen and panel to do the job properly.

This requires a special approval from LRA and it would appear it's a known problem/solution which you only get if you scream long enough and hard enough :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Food for thought gentlemen style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

JDNSW
23rd July 2005, 12:19 PM
Another entry point for water is along the bolts that attach the windscreen brackets?hinges at the base of the windscreen. These are supposed to be sealed by a gasket under the hinge/bracket, but the sealing area is very limited and the gasket is easy to get crooked/creased. Took me years to find and fix it.

Rosco
23rd July 2005, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by JDNSW
Another entry point for water is along the bolts that attach the windscreen brackets?hinges at the base of the windscreen. These are supposed to be sealed by a gasket under the hinge/bracket, but the sealing area is very limited and the gasket is easy to get crooked/creased. Took me years to find and fix it.

Thanks JD, I'll make mention of that whilst they're at it.

Cheers

Captain_Rightfoot
23rd July 2005, 12:50 PM
Thanks for this Rosco. The standard service advisor procedure is to always say that your problem is the first time they have ever seen the issue, no matter how common it is.

Ours has only leaked on my foot once in torrential rain. I will complain about it though and get it on record early.

Which stealer did yours come from?

Rosco
23rd July 2005, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Which stealer did yours come from?

Southside L/Rover

Dinty
23rd July 2005, 06:46 PM
G'day All, it's a Landrover and they leak whether you like it or not, they are a big meccano set, my 110 leaks in the same place (11/84 mod). The biggest area for leaks is along the side of the turret they are riveted and have a sealer in the mix as well, the sealer drys out and cracks, use the vehicle off road, longitudinal stress and presto you have broken the dry sealer allowing water ingress. In rainy weather I generally park mine with the front higher than the rear allowing the water to run off the roof but travelling well just put up with it as it will drive you nuts otherwise :wink: cheers Dennis

cewilson
23rd July 2005, 06:50 PM
It gets worse when you have the roofrack fitted, as the rain can't use the channels. SO it gets directed right at the drivers door - don't open your window! 8O

Dinty
23rd July 2005, 06:58 PM
I made a little drip over channel for the front doors it is riveted to the underside of the roof and extends about 1" out and it allows water to drop on the roll of the door and not on the glass or travel under and get in behind the door seal works well it does cheers Dennis :roll: :roll: :wink:
PS I also have TJM roofrack as well 8O 8O

Reads90
24th July 2005, 02:11 AM
Just after the freelander came out , we went around the Land Rover Factory for a tuor
At the end of the Range Rover production line was a new bit of Kit that they were really proud of.
The old boy taking us around told us this was a 9 million pound bit of kit that told us if the cars leaked water. It was at this point my dad looked at the bloke and said you can't tell me you test Defenders in there. The old boy laughed his head of and said we don't need a 9 million pound bit of kit to tell us somthing we already know, after all that is why we give away a free sowester with every car

cols110
24th July 2005, 05:00 AM
Easier just to accept the inevitable.

You don&#96;t buy a defender and expect to remain dry. :roll:

rick130
24th July 2005, 09:43 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>You don&#96;t buy a defender and expect to remain dry.
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or dust free. :wink:

JDNSW
24th July 2005, 06:04 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"rick130\")</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>You don&#96;t buy a defender and expect to remain dry.
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or dust free. :wink:[/b][/quote]

Actually, unless following another vehicle you can stay pretty dust free if you drive with the vents open and everything else shut. This pressurises the interior so that the leaks leak out not in. Can't use it with rain, as it comes in the vents. In cold weather heater fan flat out helps.

loanrangie
24th July 2005, 08:22 PM
My mate had the so called to the panel shop repairs to his 2003 fender for water leaks, it was returned to him about 3 weeks later with the roof gutters filled with sikaflex and repainted! Numerous sets of seals 13k kms and 12 months LR swapped it for a newy ! This lemon was sold and back out on the road within a week - poor bastard who ever bouht it.