MY15 Disco 4 headlamp globes - what type?

[sobie2000]

Hi, I ordered some Nightbreaker H7 globes and Osram Cool Blue W5W globes for the daytime running lights only to find they are not the correct ones.The manual and powerbulbs website both say the globes are as above.

The main headlamp globes look more like this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/517.jpg

and the daytime running light globes are W21 5w type like:

https://www.autobarn.com.au/philips-wedge-12v-21-5w-w3x16q-w21-5w-blister-12066b2
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/518.jpg

For those on here that have replaced MY15 D4 halogen globes can you please direct me in the correct direction ?

[eddomak]

Hi, I can't help your exact problem, but which variant (TDV6, SDV6, HSE) do you have?

Are you sure you don't have Xenon bulbs? They have a base like a cube (which contains the ballast) and you can see the components separated out in this picture:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/10/510.jpg

[sobie2000]

MY15 TDV6

I had taken the lights off and opened them up, removing the globes at which point I realised the ones I bought as replacements were the incorrect type.

Best i can tell they are HB4 globes like these:

OSRAM Night Breaker Unlimited HB4 (Twin) | PowerBulbs (http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/night-breaker-unlimited-hb4)

and the driving lights/parker lights are:

KONIK T20 7443 12V W21/5W Wedge Platinum White Halogen Light Bulb Globe No Error | Blingwork Automotive Lighting (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/product/t20-7443-12v-215w-wedge-dual-filament-halogen-bulbs/)

I just need to confirm from anyone that may heave replaced the globes.

[Stuart02]

MY15 TDV6

I had taken the lights off and opened them up, removing the globes at which point I realised the ones I bought as replacements were the incorrect type.

Best i can tell they are HB4 globes like these:

OSRAM Night Breaker Unlimited HB4 (Twin) | PowerBulbs (http://www.powerbulbs.com/au/product/night-breaker-unlimited-hb4)

and the driving lights/parker lights are:

KONIK T20 7443 12V W21/5W Wedge Platinum White Halogen Light Bulb Globe No Error | Blingwork Automotive Lighting (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/product/t20-7443-12v-215w-wedge-dual-filament-halogen-bulbs/)

I just need to confirm from anyone that may heave replaced the globes.

HB3s look pretty similar to those too. I have an unused pair of Phillips HB3s if you want to try them.

[sobie2000]

Ordered from Blingwork automotive HB4 globes as I read elsewhere on these forums that HB4 (=9006 type globes) fit. Will test everything out later in week.

[LRD414]

Reviving an old thread to see what further experiences people may have with replacement headlight bulbs for the standard halogen lights.
I've identified options, details of the factory bulb and some questions as follows.

1) - Factory bulb is HIR2 9012
It's not the H7 mentioned in the owner's manual or the HB4, at least for MY14 and probably later as well.
HIR2 is a Philips only bulb that is somewhat difficult to source but have found it at autobulbsdirect.co.uk: Philips H1R2 / HIR2 Halogen Replacement Bulb 12v 55w (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/Philips-H1R2-Halogen-Replacement-Bulb-12v-55w.html)
~$72 + shipping, so probably around $190 delivered a pair.
But a better option seems to be hids4u.co.uk: 9012 Super White Upgrade Bulb (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/9012-super-white-upgrade-bulb.html?nosto=productpage-nosto-2)
~$60 + shipping, so probably around $85 delivered for a pair.
These are supposed to be 30% better/whiter light. I believe standard HIR2 is 3450K and 1870 lumens
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/02/800.jpg
This is one of my bulbs

2) - HB4 9006 Bulb Replacement
It appears that a HB4 9006 will also fit, the only difference being a slightly different locking tab on the light fitting.
The HB4 is mentioned in this thread but there's no follow-up.
However, it doesn't seem to actually be an upgrade in total light, given these specs for a couple of good quality HB4s:
OSRAM HB4 9006 Night Breaker with 3400K and 1095 Lumens
PHILIPS HB4 9006 White Vision with 4100K and 1095 Lumens
Available for around $65 + shipping for a pair from Blingwork Auto:
PHILIPS HB4 9006 12V WHITE VISION 4100K WHITE Light Halogen Bulbs | Blingwork Automotive Lighting (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/product/philips-hb4-9006-12v-51w-white-vision-4100k-white-light-halogen-bulbs/)
Prices from UK are a bit worse now that the exchange rate is poor.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/02/801.jpg


3) - HID Upgrade Kit
There are a few kits and one that looks good is sold by hids4u.co.uk.
It gets favourable reviews on Disco3 and the owner is a member of that forum. HIR2/9012 55W HIDS4U Ultimate HID Conversion Kit (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/HIR2-55W-Ultimate-Xenon-HID-Conversion-Kit.html)
There was also good feedback from doddsy in the following thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/209303-d4-my2014-halogen-upgraded-hid.html
$215 + shipping, so probably around $260 delivered.
It's 5000K but lumens not specified, although claims to be around 3x better than factory halogen.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/02/802.jpg
Blingwork in Melbourne also have a kit too for $400:
HIR2 9012 CustomMade Philips CANbus HID 6000k Conversion Kit + Ballast | Blingwork Automotive Lighting (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/product/hir-2-9012-custommade-philips-canbus-hid-6000k-conversion-kit-ballast/)


SUMMARY
So the cheapest option is HB4 bulbs that will have a whiter light but less lumens. This may be an improvement on the road (better light colour).
Only slightly more cost is an upgraded HIR2 bulb from hids4u with apparently 30% more light.
And the best option for colour/lumens seems to be the HID kit, with a cost comparable to 2 x factory HIR2 bulbs.

Has anyone tried the upgraded HIR2 bulb? thoughts?
Has anyone installed HB4 bulbs? thoughts?
Has anyone else installed an HID kit? thoughts?
Have I missed any other options?
LED bulbs don't seem to be a viable option for the main headlight beams.

Regards,
Scott

[BJM]

I wonder if those (blingwork) HID kits have the same issue as a number of other aftermarket ones where they take a small amount of time to "warm up" after being switched on...

Also... there are a few errors in the Blingwork page. The kit is advertised as 6000k but the description talks about 4200k kit.
I would be asking a lot of questions before ordering from them!

[LRD414]

I wonder if those (blingwork) HID kits have the same issue as a number of other aftermarket ones where they take a small amount of time to "warm up" after being switched on ...I would be asking a lot of questions before ordering from them!
Yes, and it costs more than the proven product (hids4u). TBH I only put it there for comparison because I came across it while looking into things.
In my mind the decision is between the improved HIR2 bulbs and the HID Kit, unless someone has a better option....

Scott

[C17Loadm]

I have ordered a Pair of these for my 2015 D4 and will post some before and after photo's. 9012 Super White Upgrade Bulb (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/9012-super-white-upgrade-bulb.html?nosto=productpage-nosto-2)

If there's not much difference I might have to go with the HID upgrade option.

[Basil135]

Pardon my ignorance, but I am having trouble understanding why people are finding the need to upgrade the low beam globes...

Mine seem fine for all the situations that I use them, which for the majority of time, is around town. Out on the highway, the driving lights make any high beam upgrade pointless.

Added to this, if you upgrade, IE: make brighter, the low beam, then you are likely to dazzle on-coming traffic, and make yourself fairly unpopular.

HID "upgrades" in the high beam also seem pointless to me, given the warm-up time required. If I want high beam, I want it now. Not in a couple of seconds time.

So, am I missing something in all this?

[cjc_td5]

Pardon my ignorance, but I am having trouble understanding why people are finding the need to upgrade the low beam globes...

Mine seem fine for all the situations that I use them, which for the majority of time, is around town. Out on the highway, the driving lights make any high beam upgrade pointless.

Added to this, if you upgrade, IE: make brighter, the low beam, then you are likely to dazzle on-coming traffic, and make yourself fairly unpopular.

HID "upgrades" in the high beam also seem pointless to me, given the warm-up time required. If I want high beam, I want it now. Not in a couple of seconds time.

So, am I missing something in all this?

MY14 D4s use one globe for both low and high beam and use a shutter to direct the light accordingly. The same globe is on all of the time so there is no delay with switching from low to high with HID.

[phl]

MY14 D4s use one globe for both low and high beam and use a shutter to direct the light accordingly. The same globe is on all of the time so there is no delay with switching from low to high with HID.

I think all HIDs do that (mine is a MY13, and it does that anyway) due to the warm up time.

The "High Beam" lights are the Possum Spotters...

[Stuart02]

I was really happy with the Phillips White Visions on a previous vehicle. The clear light and full pattern definitely make up for lost lumens.

In Blingworks' defence, having dealt with them, I think the boys are a bit more knowledgeable and professional than their web page (and name!) gives the impression...

[LRD414]

Thanks Stuart. I have used and been happy with Blingwork too. However I don't have any feedback on that HID kit and it costs more than the hids4u kit.

Scott

[LRD414]

An update on this ....
Looked at options to improve the standard halogen headlight bulbs (single bulb for high & low beam with shutter). I don't have additional driving/spot lights.
I went with the cheaper option of replacement bulbs that are supposed to be whiter in colour and slightly brighter, rather than the HID upgrade kit.
Options summarised in an earlier post, quoted below.

Yet to drive extensively at night with these but they certainly are whiter and I think also slightly brighter.
I wouldn't say these are a major improvement in light level but I'm happy with them for the relatively cheap outlay and improved light colour.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/869.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/05/870.jpg
Before & After




Factory bulb is HIR2 9012
HIR2 is a Philips only bulb that is somewhat difficult to source: Philips H1R2 / HIR2 Halogen Replacement Bulb 12v 55w (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/Philips-H1R2-Halogen-Replacement-Bulb-12v-55w.html)
But a better option seems to be hids4u.co.uk: 9012 Super White Upgrade Bulb (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/9012-super-white-upgrade-bulb.html?nosto=productpage-nosto-2)
These are supposed to be 30% better/whiter light. I believe standard HIR2 is 3450K and 1870 lumens

HID Upgrade Kit
There are a few kits and one that looks good is sold by hids4u.co.uk.
HIR2/9012 55W HIDS4U Ultimate HID Conversion Kit (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/HIR2-55W-Ultimate-Xenon-HID-Conversion-Kit.html)
Feedback in the following thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/209303-d4-my2014-halogen-upgraded-hid.html
It's 5000K but lumens not specified, although claims to be around 3x better than factory halogen.


Cheers,
Scott

[Milton477]

I just upgraded my halogens to a HIDs4U 35W system.

Halogens low beam:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=117634&stc=1&d=1482132851


Low beam, one of each:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=117635&stc=1&d=1482132851


HIDs low beam:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=117636&stc=1&d=1482132851


HIDs high beam:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=117637&stc=1&d=1482132851

HIDs high beam with light bar:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=117638&stc=1&d=1482132851

[cjc_td5]

I just upgraded my halogens to a HIDs4U 35W system.

Low beam, one of each:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=117635&stc=1&d=1482132851
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/l319-discovery-3-4/117635d1482132851-my15-disco-4-headlamp-globes-what-type-20161219_132131-custom-.jpg


Looks good. Sure your second photo isn't one of each on HIGH beam?