Bigger tyre yes or no?

[1nando]

Hi guys,

I've been doing a lot of searching and reading to try and find a definite answer to my question. All this research has confused me with some people claiming its fine and others saying its not.

I own a 2013 2.2 110, currently on saw tooth alloys with standard 235/85/16. I also have terrafirma 30mm wheel spacers fitted and as a result an excellent turning circle.

My question is:

Can i fit 255/85/16 on my saw tooth alloys with spacers and not get any rubbing on full lock or flex????

This question might sound straight forward to some of you, but doing a googlw search and reading through d2.net and here has confused me.

Thanks in advance for any guidance gents!

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[Patchy]

Yes and yes I've got 255/85 R16 on my defender and find them a good size and suit well.
Mine are fitted to 16 x 8 with zero offset but would be basically the same offset as you with spacers only diff is the rim width but a 255 on the 7 inch defender alloy is fine.

I just got back from a week away camping where we were off road driving the whole time and put it through its paces and not a single rub.

[POD]

I have 255/85 on the standard 130 steel rims, do not get any suspension or body rubbing, have the steering stops adjusted as far as I can without rubbing and the turning circle is still better than with the factory steering stop settings.

[spudboy]

.... I also have terrafirma 30mm wheel spacers fitted and as a result an excellent turning circle.



Hi - am one of the 'skinny tyre' brigade. Seem to go everywhere in the standard 235's without an issue. It is easy to get replacements in the middle of nowhere if you ruin a tyre.

But I just wanted to comment on your wheel spacers, as I reckon they might not be legal in Australia. It won't be a problem until there is a problem and the police or an insurance company discover them. Maybe they are legal in your state, but that would surprise me!

Cheers
David

[87County]

Hi - am one of the 'skinny tyre' brigade. Seem to go everywhere in the standard 235's without an issue. It is easy to get replacements in the middle of nowhere if you ruin a tyre.

But I just wanted to comment on your wheel spacers, as I reckon they might not be legal in Australia. It won't be a problem until there is a problem and the police or an insurance company discover them. Maybe they are legal in your state, but that would surprise me!

Cheers
David

AFAIK they're not

[tact]

I have a 2013 110 too. Its a dual cab. Just recently I replaced the standard 235/85R16 Conti AT's with 255/85R16 Maxxis MT's. Thats on the stock Boost Alloys with no spacers, no mods at all. No rubbing either.

Its only been a few weeks, but I am starting to think the 255/85R16 is a very good size for this vehicle. Not so wide, nice and tall.

[JoeFriend]

I am with tact. I just fitted a set of 255/85 on standard boost alloys, I haven't lost a great deal of turning circle (and I live in bondi), the car sits higher and the guards are filled out much nicer.

No scrubbing or rubbing, no body work. If you kept the wheel spacers on then you may have to alter some stuff but don't quote me on that.

Harder to get them in the middle of nowhere, but I can live with that.

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[Bobby D]

Good news that 255/85/16 are working well for everyone. I'm looking to get some Muddies in that size in the near future. My 265/76/16 ATZ are rubbing on the suspension at full lock and that's with an atrocious turning circle

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[AndyG]

How does the speedo compare to the Gps with 255?

[tact]

How does the speedo compare to the Gps with 255?

Almost spot on.

[GypsySamuraiAnt]

Can anyone recommend a quiet AT tyre in the 255/85's?

Cheers.

[Patchy]

How does the speedo compare to the Gps with 255?

Never felt the need always seems close to spot on if anything would only be reading 1 or 2 kmh slow at 100km

[Didge]

Apparently wheel spacers are only for comp work and could (read probably will) void any insurance claims.

[tact]

Never felt the need always seems close to spot on if anything would only be reading 1 or 2 kmh slow at 100km

My 2013 110 was consistently showing 105-ish on speedo when the GPS indicated 100-ish with 235/85R16 tyres

I am using the standard scientific "-ish" there above.

With the 255/85R16 both GPS and speedo indicate 100-ish together.

[frantic]

2 quick points , 1;yes spacers are illegal, but I have them with 255/85 bighorns. It looks just right and feels more stable, and fills the standard arch . My boost with 255's only rubbed the rear spring mounts which is why I put on the spacers.
2; AFAIK there are 3 local 255/85 options, bfg km2 mt, maxxis bighorn(another mud tyre) and I think cooper do a more a/t 255.

[JDNSW]

AFAIK they're not

They are illegal in all states and territories. Of course, OK off road, but your insurance may not be happy.

John

[barkingmad]

Has anyone noticed any difference to power/economy when switching to the taller tyres?

[tact]

Has anyone noticed any difference to power/economy when switching to the taller tyres?

Going from 235/85 to 255/85 : yes - definitely noticed a subtle difference. Equivalent to slightly taller overall gearing.

I am running a BAS 170hp Autobiography tune on my 2.2 TDCi. Works well with the larger diameter tyres. Not saying extra power is needed - I put the tune on long before the recent tyre change.

[1nando]

Hi - am one of the 'skinny tyre' brigade. Seem to go everywhere in the standard 235's without an issue. It is easy to get replacements in the middle of nowhere if you ruin a tyre.

But I just wanted to comment on your wheel spacers, as I reckon they might not be legal in Australia. It won't be a problem until there is a problem and the police or an insurance company discover them. Maybe they are legal in your state, but that would surprise me!

Cheers
David

Does the 0 offset mean i can remove the spacers?

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[Patchy]

Does the 0 offset mean i can remove the spacers?

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Yeah zero offset means no spacer and would actually sit a little more outbound then you would have now, Thats guessing you have the 20mm spacer tho.
Mine sit perfectly just inside the standard flares with only side wall sticking past but more than cop friendly.

Only thing you are really limited with rim choice so if your happy with spacers and alloy just run with them as long as they are tight and the billet ones they are perfectly safe. The only time It becomes a problem is insurance but they would have to be blamed as being a contributing factor to an accident for it to become a problem, it comes down to what risks you want to take and way up the options.

[1nando]

Yeah zero offset means no spacer and would actually sit a little more outbound then you would have now, Thats guessing you have the 20mm spacer tho.
Mine sit perfectly just inside the standard flares with only side wall sticking past but more than cop friendly.

Only thing you are really limited with rim choice so if your happy with spacers and alloy just run with them as long as they are tight and the billet ones they are perfectly safe. The only time It becomes a problem is insurance but they would have to be blamed as being a contributing factor to an accident for it to become a problem, it comes down to what risks you want to take and way up the options.

So a set of sunraysia 16x8 "0 offset" rims should in theory allow me to remove my wheel spacers, keep my great turning circle and increase my tyre size all without rubbing on full flex?


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[Patchy]

That's what im running and alls good and happy

[1nando]

Thanks for the info guys. The problem with doing research online is that if you look hard enough you can actually end up more confused than prior to searching.


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[Landi]

How do the sunraysias compare to the dynamic rims? Do they have the same issues with sitting properly on the hub?

[Patchy]

How do the sunraysias compare to the dynamic rims? Do they have the same issues with sitting properly on the hub?

I have King Wheels but I think they are all the same as in are all stud centric so centralise the rim on the studs i dont find them a problem as long as you do your wheel nuts up correctly in a star pattern in 3 phases Then after say 15km recheck them for tightness.

The only thing to be aware of is that standard LR steelie wheel nuts dont suit these rims as the chamfer in the rim doesn't match so you'll have to source the wheels nuts from the same rim supplier you decide to go with. I found getting the correct wheel nuts for the rims the hardest part as no one had them on shelf and had to come straight from the rim suppliers head office place.

Hope that all makes sense haha

cheers Brian

[1nando]

Yeah zero offset means no spacer and would actually sit a little more outbound then you would have now, Thats guessing you have the 20mm spacer tho.
Mine sit perfectly just inside the standard flares with only side wall sticking past but more than cop friendly.

Only thing you are really limited with rim choice so if your happy with spacers and alloy just run with them as long as they are tight and the billet ones they are perfectly safe. The only time It becomes a problem is insurance but they would have to be blamed as being a contributing factor to an accident for it to become a problem, it comes down to what risks you want to take and way up the options.

Patchy, when you refer to the spacers :

"billet ones are perdectly safe".

I have terrafirma 30mm billet alloy spacers. Are they what you are refering to or not???

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[Patchy]

Yeah they will be safe just aslong as they're fitted correctly as in bolted up to torque spec and the such.

ppl say they are unsafe but many high performance euro cars run them factory and are perfectly legal...

I've also personally seen how strong they are after play with my other car on closed roads doing some drifting :angel: I smashed a square blocked curb destroying a rim down to the same diameter as the rims centre and the spacer I can say I wouldn't think twice worring about them ever failing

[weeds]

You could reverse the centers on D1 steelies......although I'm not sure what offset you would end up with.