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dullbird
29th October 2015, 09:04 PM
Hey guys

Just putting some feelers out.

I have a D7100 I have been and I'm still very happy with it my only complaint would have to be that the low light performance I think could be better.

Anyway regardless of that

I'm getting to a stage where I'm really considering a full frame camera.

I believe the entry level full frame is the D610 however I have also read the performance is not much on the D7100/200 it's only mark tally better just full frame.

I have also read that the D810 is the ducks guts and built like a tank however the D750 is very similar in performance and many people seem to be really happy with them.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

At the moment I'm just looking and dreaming but will soon start to keep my eyes on the second hand market.

Just thought I would start a discussion on it to help fuel my "I would like one of those" [emoji16]

candeniz
29th October 2015, 09:31 PM
Funny coincidence but I'm looking at upgrading to either a 7200 or d750. From what I've read, d7200 has great low light performance and is now the top of the range for nikon dx cameras.
the question for me is whether i pay the extra $1000 for a fullframe camera or i spend that money on a quality lens.
I guess where d750 or any other fx camera would show its advantage when using shooting with lenses wide open f1.4 or f1.2.
I'll be following this post. It's an interesting one.
Can

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Bytemrk
29th October 2015, 09:39 PM
I am shooting with a D750 - I love it.

I went through the same thing a while back Lou... 610... 750...810... ????

The one thing I do miss with full frame is the 1.5 crop when I am shooting birds or similar at a distance.... it certainly helps "get closer"

I kept my D7000 as well, so it's not a major issue and I am learning to work with it. The big advantage from that point of view of a D810 is that even using crop mode you still have lots of pixels on the sensor

D7100 24MP
D810 36MP crop modes, 1.2x (25 MP), and 1.5x (15.3 MP)
D750 24MP crop modes 1.2 x (16.7MP) and 1.5X (10MP)


So depending what you shoot, if you intend to only keep one, I see a reason to stretch to the D810.

That said, I love the D750, landscapes and low light it is amazing. The Nikon trainer I was talking to last week, has access to anything...he told me currently the D750 is is favourite all round body. (He was using one on the walk.

dullbird
29th October 2015, 10:09 PM
Yeah plan to keep both. I don't really have a need for 36mp because I'm not printing huge pictures.

As for candeniz I would honestly say unless you have the good glass I would be inclined to by the D7200 and start putting the rest of the money towards good glass build up the glass and then do what I would like to do and buy a full frame once the glass is available. Otherwise I reckon you would feel hampered especially if you can only afford say on lense.

What I actually did was get a DX I bought one good FX lense and a couple of good DX lenses and over the years I started to slowly replace the DX stuff. I only have the ultra wide to change and I will have full range from 12mm to 200 in fast glass :)

MrLandy
30th October 2015, 05:12 AM
The D810 is a pro quality camera and more solidly built. I use a D800 and it gets knocked around a lot. This is a big factor if you're out bush a lot I reckon. The D750 looks like a great camera too, many of the specs are the same, it has a flip out screen, it's 100grams lighter and a bit less bulky ...but, that's because it's not as solidly built. So it would be the D810 for me for durability.

candeniz
30th October 2015, 06:44 AM
Hi dullbird

I have a reasonable collection of lenses from when i used to shoot on my good old FE2. Ive got a 50mmf1.4, 28mm f2.8, 70-210mm f4-5.6 which are solid lenses and produce quality images. They are manual lenses so i really rely on a good focus system on my camera which is only a d3100. Focussing a manual lens on a digital camera is quite a challenge so d7100 or d750 d610 with 51 focus points would help a lot.

I also have a kit lens 18-55mm (plastic) and a samyang 8mm. These lenses are only good on dx cameras.

I mainly shoot architecture and portrait so need a wide angle lens and a fast prime lens like 50mm to achieve good bokeh.

My other concern is that the higher you go up the full frame range the bigger and heavier they get. Especially in an urban environment during travels, it is a bugger to carry around the camera and lenses on foot. I need something lighter. I even considered buying a fuji xt1 but cost factor is an issue and fuji lenses are very dear. Would not be an issue if i made a living on photography but that's not the case.

The sensors on dx cameras have much improved so much that the image quality is very close to full frame images. Would you notice the difference with naked eye? At what iso.. probably not up to 1600 but maybe beyond.

Anyway at the end of the day the question remains... dx or fx?
cde

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dullbird
30th October 2015, 07:40 AM
Then I think only you can answer that. [emoji4]. I think it will come down to what ever your compromises are.

For me I won't push to the D810 purely because of cost. The cost of one of these second hand I could almost get a D750 new. The weight thing doesn't bother me to much.

I will just struggle to spend the money when I have a very capable camera already.

There has just been a couple of instances when I have realised lately that having a FX would have been a real benefit.

MrLandy
30th October 2015, 09:09 AM
Hi dullbird

I have a reasonable collection of lenses from when i used to shoot on my good old FE2. Ive got a 50mmf1.4, 28mm f2.8, 70-210mm f4-5.6 which are solid lenses and produce quality images. They are manual lenses so i really rely on a good focus system on my camera which is only a d3100. Focussing a manual lens on a digital camera is quite a challenge so d7100 or d750 d610 with 51 focus points would help a lot.

I also have a kit lens 18-55mm (plastic) and a samyang 8mm. These lenses are only good on dx cameras.

I mainly shoot architecture and portrait so need a wide angle lens and a fast prime lens like 50mm to achieve good bokeh.

My other concern is that the higher you go up the full frame range the bigger and heavier they get. Especially in an urban environment during travels, it is a bugger to carry around the camera and lenses on foot. I need something lighter. I even considered buying a fuji xt1 but cost factor is an issue and fuji lenses are very dear. Would not be an issue if i made a living on photography but that's not the case.

The sensors on dx cameras have much improved so much that the image quality is very close to full frame images. Would you notice the difference with naked eye? At what iso.. probably not up to 1600 but maybe beyond.

Anyway at the end of the day the question remains... dx or fx?
cde

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No question, FX is better. But only if needed in a professional situation. A D750 would be awesome for most people's needs. Agree $1000 spent on a great FX lens now, would be better than on camera for most people. And you can always upgrade the camera later, then you already have the lens.

p38arover
7th November 2015, 07:44 PM
Lou, keep an eye on Gumtree. A brand new unwanted prize might be coming up for sale. See Best place to sell unwanted camera (prize) - Photography - Whirlpool Forums (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm't=2467181)

dullbird
7th November 2015, 08:46 PM
Yeah he will get good money for that Ron.

dmdigital
8th November 2015, 06:58 AM
Just a thought Lou what about a D800. You might pickup run out stock on this for less than the D750

dullbird
8th November 2015, 09:15 AM
But is a D800 on the same performance levels as a D750? I did think about a D800 but everyone is raving on about the 750 so much I thought it's probably the one to be looking out for.

MrLandy
8th November 2015, 11:57 AM
But is a D800 on the same performance levels as a D750? I did think about a D800 but everyone is raving on about the 750 so much I thought it's probably the one to be looking out for.

D800 is a more robust construction and much bigger RAW image. I'm very happy with mine.

Bytemrk
8th November 2015, 12:31 PM
D800 is a more robust construction and much bigger RAW image. I'm very happy with mine.

The more robust construction some need some don't... and the bigger Raw files are double edged too....

I agree it's definitely worth considering a D800.... the right camera will depend very much on Lou's specific needs.

There are very valid arguments for both. Lighter, faster continuous shooting and I like the articulating screen are some of the reasons I went with the D750 instead.

Lou, these might make it easier to spot what you think would benefit you:

https://www.whirlwire.com/compare/d800-vs-d810-vs-d750

Nikon D750 vs Nikon D800 Detailed Comparison (http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D750-vs-Nikon-D800)

I'm sure which ever you choose you will be happy.

dullbird
8th November 2015, 01:07 PM
Yeah see I don't think I need the bigger file size. In my group that I produce images for she already making me reduce file sizes down for export and print so having such a large file size I think would be a punish.

dullbird
8th November 2015, 03:46 PM
Yeah Mark the D750 is not only lighter but has better low light performance as well as better fps.

I think the D750 would be better.

My biggest gripe with the D7100 is low light performance. Don't get me wrong it's okay but could be better.

MrLandy
8th November 2015, 04:50 PM
The more robust construction some need some don't... and the bigger Raw files are double edged too....

I agree it's definitely worth considering a D800.... the right camera will depend very much on Lou's specific needs.

There are very valid arguments for both. Lighter, faster continuous shooting and I like the articulating screen are some of the reasons I went with the D750 instead.

Lou, these might make it easier to spot what you think would benefit you:

https://www.whirlwire.com/compare/d800-vs-d810-vs-d750

Nikon D750 vs Nikon D800 Detailed Comparison (http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D750-vs-Nikon-D800)

I'm sure which ever you choose you will be happy.

Thanks Bytemark, a good comparo. ...yes most other specs look to be pretty similar. For $1000 less, looks like the D750 might be a better choice for you Lou. That's a lot of new lens! Cheers

Bytemrk
8th November 2015, 05:19 PM
They are both amazing cameras MrLandy.... and you are right another $1K to throw at good glass is always handy. :angel:

Bytemrk
9th November 2015, 10:45 AM
Lou. I haven't even watched it, but this popped up in an email today that might be useful to you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVl0_sNMOk

dullbird
9th November 2015, 12:02 PM
Thanks will watch it later. If I didn't know any better though I would think your encouraging me to buy another wooden floor [emoji6][emoji12]