Land Rover jacks

[gromit]

My Series I came with the original King Dick jack and a wheel brace but all the other Land Rovers I've got came without jacks.

Looking around trash & treasure markets it seems that a lot of people scrap a car and keep the jack, there are always plenty of the scissor type with & without handles.

With another Land Rover about to hit the road thought turned to a jack & wheel brace. I considered a hydraulic bottle jack, problem is most state 'must be stored upright' which must be due to poor quality build allowing the oil to leak out. I wanted something that can be thrown in the toolbox and forgotten about until a puncture occurs in many years time but will always work.

A while ago I found a Nissan screw bottle jack at a market. It's a 2-stage so has a good lift and is rated to 1.6 tonne. Took it apart & cleaned & greased it, for $3 it's a good backup despite not having a handle.
Then found another at a tip shop. A Nissan one again ($10 this time) and it came with the lower part of the operating handle. This was rivetted together so unless I drill it out I can't get inside to glean/grease it.
Today found a Daihatsu one (checked and it's rated to 1.5 Tonne so must be from something like a Rocky). Again no handle.

Red is Daihatsu, olive drab is a Nissan and the dark one on the right is Nissan.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/11/1117.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YzrXfp)DSCN3670 (https://flic.kr/p/YzrXfp) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Looks like I need to make a couple of operating handles although you could operate them with a screwdriver at a pinch.


Colin

[debruiser]

when dad bought his patrol back in 93 (3 yrs old at the time) the handle was missing. So he just fashioned one from a length of round bar. worked well enough.

[JDNSW]

I am using an excellent Landcruiser jack in my 2a. It has a similar ring for a handle to those you show, but rather than carry a separate handle, I have made an adapter to fit the crank handle to it. This is simply a piece of 3/4" pipe about 50mm long with a crossbar and cutaway permanently attaching it to the jack, and a pair of slots to dog onto the crank handle. I can't remember whether I had to turn a little out of it for the handle or not.

It lives standing upright behind the passenger seat, wrapped in an old towel.

John

[crackers]

Here's mine.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=101295&stc=1&d=1446351532

It's an old truck jack and probably older than my Series 1. Been part of my life since I first started working on cars with my dad when I was big enough to hand him tools but too small to hand him the right one (and when I first learnt to swear).

As you can see, she's a two stage unit, the thinner top screw and the fatter lower screw. Has quite a good lift and is geared such that it's easy to lift a vehicle's body without using the handle but once the wheels start lifting (ie, you've got the full weight of a corner), you need the handle. The handle extends and one end is straight while the other has a slight bend allowing better access depending on its position under the vehicle.

The only drawbacks are the small base and the need to stop the top pad from turning - this latter happens automatically once it's in contact with the vehicle but until then, it's a PITA.

Like the others, it'll be wrapped in an old towel and tossed into a convenient hole in me Landy.

Just had a chat with Dad. It's pre-war and was picked up from somewhere by my grandfather for use on his fruit block :D

[gromit]

Managed to get another couple from a Trash & Treasure market today.

Here's a few already collected.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/504.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YN5c2n)DSCN3859 (https://flic.kr/p/YN5c2n) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

These two were collected this morning ($4each !). Had to take them apart, clean & grease.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/505.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YN5ajp)DSCN4513 (https://flic.kr/p/YN5ajp) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Probably have enough now and need to make some handles.......


Colin

[mox]

I reckon is a good idea - especially for vehicles such as Land Rovers that may present a range of jacking problems in different situations is to carry at last two jacks of different types which have different capabilities and limitations. Also, good to also have a collection of wooden blocks to use as wheel chocks and/or to effectively give higher jacking capabilities. Then something like a heavy steel plate to put under jack to stop it sinking under load on soft ground /mud is often useful.

I have a couple of jacks similar to screw jacks illustrated . Bought at clearing sale auction and don't know what vehicles they were originally in but someone reckoned Toyota. Maybe all some sort of generic Japanese ones. Anyway, reckon they are overall good ones to have. Hydraulic jacks better only if in good order and in some conditions. Remember no good if not close to upright. Will not work on side or upside down. Also easy become unusable with oil leaks, rust on shaft etc especially if not well cared for.

One example of needing jacks such as screw ones of different heights is that with eg a completely flat tyre, one that is initially very low may be the only type that will fit in under somewhere that can be jacked. Then when it is wound. pumped or whatever to full height, may still not be high enough to change wheel. Less lowering fully onto blocks or whatever and repeating process is necessary if another taller jack can be used alongside or elsewhere to continue lifting. A second jack is also helpful if vehicle or jack taking load moves and increases risk of vehicle falling off it.

In my Defender, for which uses include on farm, I normally carry four jacks which all have uses at times. Sometimes in combination. One low Japanese style screw jack like those illustrated with long handles. Then a higher heavy screw jack which is also wound with a handle. Then a higher still screw jack apparently intended for tractors which has a sort of nut with ratchet. Lastly, an old hi lift type. The latter have limitations and may be hazardous in some situations but can be very useful in others. eg Jacking on bumper bars. or other places to lift body for a start instead of under axle or other unsprung component. .

[harry]

[QUOTE=crackers;2444530]Here's mine.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/series-land-rovers/101295d1446351532-land-rover-jacks-jack.jpg

that's a loverly jack,
I had one years ago with my 34 Bedford.
I have a very similar one in my s2a.

[1950landy]

My 80" has a Shelley LJ45 screw bottle jack , the handle was missing so I took a photo of a friends origional jack handle & fabricated one using a early Range Rover handle . I then bought the new wooden handle piece from the UK

[mick88]

Back in the 1980's and 90's we had several Daihatsu 4WD's, F50, F55, and an F65 Scat, they all had bottle type screw jacks similar to that one you have there, however the handle had a "T" end that fitted into a slot, rather than a hook/loop set-up.

Cheers, Mick.

[numpty]

I managed to get hold of this NOS Series 1 jack a few years ago and it even has 57 cast into it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/10/66.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/10/67.jpg

[gromit]

My Series I came with a King Dick jack, hadn't heard of Metallifacture but it looks like they made a few different jacks Metallifacture Jacks (http://www.classic-british-car-jacks.uk/metallifacture_jacks.htm)

The above link is from a website devoted to Classic British Car Jacks......Classic British Car Jacks (http://www.classic-british-car-jacks.uk/index.htm)


Colin

[Chops]

Excellent info boys,,, now I can set to and see what I can find for my little Wide light [biggrin]

I haven't actually checked yet, but does anyone know if there is a specific model jack/s for the S11's and S11a's ?

[gromit]

Excellent info boys,,, now I can set to and see what I can find for my little Wide light [biggrin]

I haven't actually checked yet, but does anyone know if there is a specific model jack/s for the S11's and S11a's ?

From the info I can find on Series I's there were a few different suppliers, I guess it was the same throughout II, IIa, III etc.
Probably best to stay away from hydraulic jacks as mentioned earlier in this thread. Lay them down and the oil leaks out ! Whereas a screw type jack can sit in the toolbox for years and still work when you need it.

I'll keep a look out at the local trash & treasure market because I have enough at the moment......

Colin