Worlds First Chassis Rail Cleaner

[zapt]

Hi Aulro Comrades,
I recently joined the community after buying a 2009 110 double cab pick up which is featured in the ad. I have found the Aulro community to be great and extremely helpful!

Product Design is a love of mine and after spending a great amount of time off road, with always dreading the job of cleaning the rig when I got home. We designed the CRC as a tool that could be used after every trip off road, whereby reducing the time needed to clean the vehicle. We also aimed at creating something that does a professional job of flushing out your chassis rails to maintain the integrity of in our case your Land Rover purchase!
https://youtu.be/8gR-kC6cBJQ
The CRC is cnc machined from a solid block to achieve exact accuracy to all our required tolerances. From this components are installed into the block to create a simple to use tool.

If you guys could support me with this startup it would be greatly appreciated.

Please find all information @ zapt (http://www.zaptind.com/#!crc/e5vi8)

Thanks again and if you have any questions post them up!

Zapt

[loneranger]

So I've watched the video. So what makes this product better than just using the hose inside the chassis rail. I'm all about making life easy but apart from holding the nozzle in place I don't see why it would be worth $75.

Not having a go its just that your website doesn't tell me enough to want to buy.

[zapt]

So I've watched the video. So what makes this product better than just using the hose inside the chassis rail. I'm all about making life easy but apart from holding the nozzle in place I don't see why it would be worth $75.

Not having a go its just that your website doesn't tell me enough to want to buy.

Hi,
Thanks for your reply lone ranger, I also used to get under my car with the hose covered in water and inserting the hose into the chassis. Problem I found is we have fittings on most of our hoses and each time I had to remove the fitting to insert the hose into the chassis and each time the hose fitting got looser on the hose causing it to pop off. Also inserting the hose in the rail is fine but most the time the water is directed in one direction because the hose kinks into the rail. When water pressure is applied horizontally into the rail with the crc I found the distribution was a lot better and the sand sediment removed also increased.
Thanks
Zapt

[loneranger]

So is the nozzle that sprays into the chassis having a spray end on it. Are you able to take some video of just the water spraying out of the nozzle without it being inserted into the chassis.

It might make it easier to understand.

[manic]

Looks well put together, but not sure if I need one.

Made me think of this:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[zapt]

Looks well put together, but not sure if I need one.

Made me think of this:

http://cdn.scahw.com.au/cdn-1d0bbec647d8cd0/melbourne/globalassets/documents/gifs/the-castle-gifs/thecastle-ideasman.gif

Manic,
Gold haha
cheers mate!

[zapt]

So is the nozzle that sprays into the chassis having a spray end on it. Are you able to take some video of just the water spraying out of the nozzle without it being inserted into the chassis.

It might make it easier to understand.

Hi Mate,
This is a picture of the rear bar on my defender I have also uploaded a video on youtube just now for you.
https://youtu.be/ITVI6rKkovE
Which shows inside the rail and water flowing both directions. As I just got back from a week on fraser found this to be another good spot for sand to hide. I had to apply the crc on this section for around 2-3 minutes. As I said I used to do the same as yourself with the hose but after testing all the different rail sections on the car I found it a lot easier using this device not being a sales pitch!

I know $75 seems steep though it includes shipping and I am having the product completely made in AUSTRALIA. I have made and produced a lot of other products from China though this is one for the locals.
Cheers
Zapt


Thanks for the questions mate

[debruiser]

Interesting idea. an attachment for the Kartcher or Genri would be good though....

[Gerokent]

How do you keep the paint on your rear bar

[zapt]

Interesting idea. an attachment for the Kartcher or Genri would be good though....

Hey Bruiser,
Thanks for your comment mate, in regards to using a Kartcher or Gerni this is a big NO for inside your chassis rails as it forces the sand into the corners and grooves of the rail rather then removing it.

Cheeeers

[zapt]

How do you keep the paint on your rear bar

Haha I know right, strange because all the defenders I have seen including my mates they tend to rust. It did have paint protector from new even though I don't think that would contribute and always just cleaned well.

[zapt]

Hi Guys,
We have had a good interest in this product so far, but people have come to the point they believe it is little too expensive. So I am interested what you guys would be happy to pay for this Australian made product?
Cheers
Zapt

[isuzurover]

Hi Guys,
We have had a good interest in this product so far, but people have come to the point they believe it is little too expensive. So I am interested what you guys would be happy to pay for this Australian made product?
Cheers
Zapt

(as I posted in your other thread) - why not injection mould the plastic part to cut costs?

[zapt]

(as I posted in your other thread) - why not injection mould the plastic part to cut costs?

Hi Mate,
Thanks a lot for your interest, mainly for design and cost, also by using a industrial grade PPE plastic its more durable and robust. As its a startup and I didn't know how successful the product would be the investment for a injection mould and design is a expensive route for us.

Though I hope we can interest you enough to give it a crack.

Thanks again

Zapt

[loneranger]

thanks for the video. I have to admit it certainly looks a lot easier than holding the hose. I'll have a think about it.

[zapt]

thanks for the video. I have to admit it certainly looks a lot easier than holding the hose. I'll have a think about it.

Thanks for the support long ranger!
Cheers
Zapt

[rar110]

You picked a tough market zapt. However I think it's a goer.

[zapt]

You picked a tough market zapt. However I think it's a goer.
Tough crowd mate haha
Thanks for the support and feedback mate
Zapt

[Armitage_Shanks]

There's a typo in the video at the end.
"Avaiable now".

In any case, it seems like a good single use product. Specific, well designed and manufactured.

In regards to the pricing, be aware that you're up against other cleaning/flushing appliances like the Staun Massojet. Of which the cheapest is $55. The most expensive is $99.
They are multi use devices as well.
So I think, in terms of comparison, I would pay up to about $30 - $40 for your device.
Baring in mind also that trigger nozzles/guns at Bunnings vary in price from $5 to $45.
I know that isn't an apples to apples comparison, but that's what I am comparing your product with.

[rangieman]

Its dissapointing with those that doubt so dont get put off by the few ;)
Tis a great idea but Yeah the price is up there and yes it could be reduced with different manufacturing technique`s at a cost . This could be off set in the country of the worlds largest photo copier if those that dont care of the Aussie made idea:cool:
Im not in the market for one sorry but good onya for having a go mate:thumbsup:

[zapt]

Its dissapointing with those that doubt so dont get put off by the few ;)
Tis a great idea but Yeah the price is up there and yes it could be reduced with different manufacturing technique`s at a cost . This could be off set in the country of the worlds largest photo copier if those that dont care of the Aussie made idea:cool:
Im not in the market for one sorry but good onya for having a go mate:thumbsup:

Thanks Rangieman!

You guys have been having a field day with this one today, I guess all I can say is this we have supplied products to many different industries from abattoirs to defence all customers having there own specs and requirements.

Everyone has ideas, people say thats a good idea or not a bad idea but I would do it differently and thats fine.


There was some comments there is no innovation and that is fine though I think its a step forward from sticking your hose in the chassis.
Don't like doing this
Maxtraxx people lived without them years ago but they make it a lot easier to use them.
Staun deflators you could just use your finger or a stick to deflate your tyres then some brass mechs that cost e.g. $90
Roof Top Tent maybe just don't be lazy and set up that tent we used to years ago, but be a lot easier to just fold one out thats on my roof?
Apple People loved mp3 players with 100 songs on them though, it would be cool if we could put a 1000 songs on one!

Thanks again for the interest and support

Zapt

[ozscott]

I dont agree that a high pressure spray is a "no no". I have had ny d2 on the beach since new on a regular holiday and day trips etc and not a hint of rust. The problem with high pressure spray is lack of volume to wash stuff away. So i stick the hose in and wash rails from EVERY hole in the rail and then use a high pressure spray because its the only thing that will get salt off the inside ceiling of the rail...then water hose again to wash it all away. There are no short cuts with rail washing after beach work. A few years ago i also atomised Xtroll in the rails using a spray gun with the pressure cranked up to coat the rails.

Cheers

[zapt]

Aulros,
I have been paying close attention to the feedback, criticism and suggestions on this thread.
Interestingly a buddy (fellow AULRO) just came back from Fraser Island after 8 days of holiday there. I gave him the crc to use and he had much of the same suggestions for modification and refinement as what has been suggested here.

Its clear we need to go back & redesign some features to diversify the function of the CRC a little more. From this we will integrated a sprayer to wash other parts of the chassis/ car with addition to possibly changing the shape of the CRC. We will also look at importing alot of the materials to reduce costs providing you with a lower outlay on your investment.

We are also going to add alot more content on the website to explain each feature and component of the CRC and why we have used some of the materials we have.

Whats your thoughts?
Thanks again for the feedback
Over and Out

Zapt

[debruiser]

Sounds good! I really dont think anything is ever "Finished" or "Perfect" further product development can only make it better! I'll be watching with interest because I hate cleaning cars and anything to make it easier is good! :D

[zapt]

Sounds good! I really dont think anything is ever "Finished" or "Perfect" further product development can only make it better! I'll be watching with interest because I hate cleaning cars and anything to make it easier is good! :D

Thanks Debruiser, this is a true story there is always room for improvement within a product.
Look forward to showing you guys the new design soon!

[jimb]

Zapt

I love it. If be buying 3 as Christmas gifts right now. Don't be put off mate. And your examples are dead right: maxtrax etc ( btw plastic injected- cost of a shot estimates???? $10
Mould estimates?? 100k



People suggesting the injection route may not have had to build a mould. Or Maybe prices have dropped in the last 12 months but I'm guessing over $14 k for the mould and then you're looking at minimum run of 3k. Yep, they'll be cheap but even getting the right pellets etc will cost you.

Anyway. Good luck. Let us know when you're selling.

[zapt]

Zapt

I love it. If be buying 3 as Christmas gifts right now. Don't be put off mate. And your examples are dead right: maxtrax etc ( btw plastic injected- cost of a shot estimates???? $10
Mould estimates?? 100k



People suggesting the injection route may not have had to build a mould. Or Maybe prices have dropped in the last 12 months but I'm guessing over $14 k for the mould and then you're looking at minimum run of 3k. Yep, they'll be cheap but even getting the right pellets etc will cost you.

Anyway. Good luck. Let us know when you're selling.

Hi Jimb,
Mate thanks heaps for that comment hey means a lot.
Cant wait to show yourself and the AULROS the new product soon!
Will Keep You Posted!

PS Your numbers above are on PAR!

Cheers Zapt

[zapt]

Hi All,

Our engineers have been working hard making all the suggested changes to make a great product for you guys and the universe!
So Check it
1. Integrated sprayer head which is able to spray 360 degrees inside your chassis rail, offering a perfect clean to all sides.
2. The sprayer head then is able to retract into the base allowing a multi purpose device to wash the rest of your AULRO.
3. Our new custom made ring magnet has a pull strength of 30kg :o with addition to also being coated with a rust proofing to protect your investment :cool:
4. Diameter of device will be reduced to back the device easier to use and get into those tighter spaces.

THE BEST IS YET TO COME
THE PRICE

To produce this product for a affordable price, we had no choice but to remove the Made in Aus logo, and suck it up and sit down With our friends in china!

For the record this wasn't a surprise to me but I always give the aussie factories a chance, unfortunately so much comes down to dollar hey!

So we are hoping to be able to ship this product to you for around $35-$38 depending how hard I can squeeze AUS post.

Should we take the leap and get this thing happening for you guys and the rest of the folk out other????

Over and Out

Zapt

[debruiser]

I like the 360deg jet thing! sounds good.

[mekon76]

Interesting idea. an attachment for the Kartcher or Genri would be good though....

The high pressure drain unblocked attachment for the Kartcher would do a Stirling job..I have one, can't remember what it cost though. Probably the same but 10 meters of hose. Propels itself.

[Outback 1]

The high pressure drain unblocked attachment for the Kartcher would do a Stirling job..I have one, can't remember what it cost though. Probably the same but 10 meters of hose. Propels itself.

I have one of those it came with the gerni works brilliantly

Sent from my SM-G900F using AULRO mobile app

[zapt]

Hi Guys,
Thanks a lot for the feedback, obviously not everyone has a high pressure cleaner and there is a lot different models to adapt to, so we are just looking at a great alternative to be a multi purpose chassis and car cleaning device for a competitive price.

Is there any thing you guys would like to change?
Thanks again

Zapt

[SG1 Bones]

I'd like to say that I would rather spend the extra dollars if I knew it was Aussie made and owned.

Just my opinion.
Nathan.

[zapt]

I'd like to say that I would rather spend the extra dollars if I knew it was Aussie made and owned.

Just my opinion.
Nathan.

Hi Nathan,

I wouldn't like anything more mate!
Sometimes meeting a market for everyone is hard, and I guess making the decision to have it produced overseas came down to two factors.
The amount we were willing to investment in the project aswell as a price that people are wiling to pay.
We were also able to incorporate more features that interested members mentioned.

We try to please everyone, though as mentioned Australian business's where given first priority on quoting this product, sadly outcome being cost was too high.

Thanks again

Zapt

[PTC]

I'm liking the look of this product Zapt and i'll keep my eye on the thread for when it comes available. As i know a few people who would be interested in it. Great work.

[zapt]

I'm liking the look of this product Zapt and i'll keep my eye on the thread for when it comes available. As i know a few people who would be interested in it. Great work.

Hi PTC,

Ok great mate thanks for your feedback and interest in the product, will let you know soon as we are ready to ship these bad boys!

Cheers
Zapt