Filthy litterers

[DAMINK]

I love driving in the bush and plantations around here.
But what really annoys the hell out of me is the damn people who throw there rubbish there like its a tip.
Well it went too far yesterday. Going for a walk with the family yesterday and this is what i seen.

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God damn needles! Filthy ******!
So the plantation owners put signs up to advise people not to dump.
Clearly that has been misunderstood.

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Wife lost it and ended up calling the local council over the needles.
They are apparently cleaning it up now.

Not only dirty locals dumping either.
Here are some tyres some one dumped. I assume a tyre place.....
There used to be a lot more there actually.

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Even a freezer with a couple of dead cows in them. (cows now gone)

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Just shake my head in disgust some times i really do.

[DiscoMick]

Totally agree, it's disgusting. Some people are just filthy pigs.

[gusthedog]

I hate people that dump waste. Bastards.

Average cost for Council to take a 6x4 trailer of rubbish to landfill is about $80. Many tips and recycling centres are cheaper than this. It's substituted by your rates. My point - rubbish is expensive to the community and you either pay for it yourself or the community pays for it. And if the Council have to send staff to clean it up this costs the community too. Either way, reduce reuse and recycle and take responsibility for your own bloody rubbish!

[DAMINK]

I hate people that dump waste. Bastards.

Average cost for Council to take a 6x4 trailer of rubbish to landfill is about $80. Many tips and recycling centres are cheaper than this. It's substituted by your rates. My point - rubbish is expensive to the community and you either pay for it yourself or the community pays for it. And if the Council have to send staff to clean it up this costs the community too. Either way, reduce reuse and recycle and take responsibility for your own bloody rubbish!

2 things stop me from just cleaning it up myself.
Money and no trailer lol. I have loads of time. Im not kidding though. It offends me enough that i WOULD just clean it up and take it to the tip if i could.
I do "harvest" any steel i find. Mostly because im a scab a bit lol. Free steel is good steel to me. Beyond that i cant do anything about it really.
Just vent my annoyance to it as often and to as many people as i can.
And i do!

Ya know there are many cool tracks around here that i like to go to that are owned by those plantation guys. They dont seem to mind us getting stuck in there plantations.
They could be all DONT DRIVE HERE but let it go because they know its a fun place.

Dumping rubbish there is not going to help anyone as you said above. We all pay one way or another.

Needles though. I mean really? Cant these sort of people get rid of them free anyway? If they cant they should!!
I have 4 kids i take walking there several times a week.
We look for lizards, snakes, roos, wallabies, echidna, kookaburras and everything else this beautiful place has to offer.
Its medicine to us! To all of us. Time away where we are in nature and away from tech stuff. Last thing you want is rubbish or FLIPPIN needles!!

Im telling ya now mate. I would loose my mind if one of my kids stood on a needle.
I guess thats why the wife got so huffy about it..... Cant blame her.

Sorry for the long rant. Just annoys the hell out of me.

[Ausfree]

I'm another one that gets very angry over illegal dumping. To dump syringes means they have no respect for themselves, so of cause they could not give a rats arse about anybody else.:mad:

[p38arover]

Local rubbish dumps charge a lot to dump (about $300/tonne) there so people take the easy way out.

Our local council has covert video cameras set up in regular dumping spots.

[loanrangie]

I'm another one that gets very angry over illegal dumping. To dump syringes means they have no respect for themselves, so of cause they could not give a rats arse about anybody else.:mad:

Thats junkies for you, dont respect themselves let alone anyone else.

[Ausfree]

Local rubbish dumps charge a lot to dump (about $300/tonne) there so people take the easy way out.

Our local council has covert video cameras set up in regular dumping spots.

Lake Macquarie council do the same and they also put gates and fences across well known dumping spots. Part of the problem of illegal dumping is (in my opinion) the high charges for trying to do the right thing, but dumping syringes like that is at another level of complete idiocy.

[DAMINK]

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Lake Macquarie council do the same and they also put gates and fences across well known dumping spots. Part of the problem of illegal dumping is (in my opinion) the high charges for trying to do the right thing, but dumping syringes like that is at another level of complete idiocy.

Thats what i fear will happen.
Gates will be put up.
The small few ruining it for the rest of us.

I have seen this a lot. Dont get me wrong. These pics are but a few.
I have no idea who is actually doing it but its just as likely its a local clean up mob for rental properties or something like that.
There often seems to be a lot of property. Almost like a cleanout or breakup sort of thing.

No way to know but when the wife spoke to the council they said they have ways of finding out who dumped it.
I hope that was not a bluff but expect it was.
Do i feel bad that she called the council? Yea l a little to be honest. But what if the next family went for a walk and there kids walked over it?
Thats the way i choose to look at it.
I know ultimately its going to cost the average joe for it. And may have fences put up over it.
But short of me fishing through rubbish to find the needles i dunno what we as residents of the area should do.

[p38arover]

Do i feel bad that she called the council? Yea l a little to be honest.

Don't feel bad. She did the right thing.

[gusthedog]

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Lake Macquarie council do the same and they also put gates and fences across well known dumping spots. Part of the problem of illegal dumping is (in my opinion) the high charges for trying to do the right thing, but dumping syringes like that is at another level of complete idiocy.

Rubbish costs a lot for council to get rid of. Believe it or not those fees charged by most councils at tips or resource recovery centres don't actually even cover costs. Councils make no money from rubbish. Sounds unbelievable but it's true. Putting rubbish into the ground is crazy expensive.

Pricey

[Dark61]

we are semi rural here and have free tip days first Sat and Sun of each month. A lot of us don't have any rubbish removal services. Notwithstanding the free tip days I still manage to collect a 25 litre bag of crap each month when I take a walk up and down the street - say 20 minutes walk each side. Mainly beer cans/bottles/takeaway packaging.
cheers,
D

[NavyDiver]

Have a good look. Amazing how many rude filthy pigs toss address mail, Computer hard drives or similar enabling rapid return via EPA, Council, Shire or other authorities.

Load dropped at the back of my place recently after rude filthy pigs moved house. It was easy to find them and great to see the nice surprise they found via Report litter thrown from a vehicle | EPA Victoria (http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/get-involved/report-litter)

[Chenz]

I'm another one that gets very angry over illegal dumping. To dump syringes means they have no respect for themselves, so of cause they could not give a rats arse about anybody else.:mad:

You are asking the irresponsible to act responsibly. If they don't have the brains or self control to stop putting mind altering addictive substances into their bodies how are they going to stop dumping their crap all over the place.

If found they should be fined and made to undertake community service to cleanup highways and parks. Don't jail them. They like it in there with all the rest of their junkie mates working out new scams to rip people off.

I work for local government and the amount of $$ we spend cleaning up after these imbeciles each year could pay for a new community centre, playground, sportsfield or skate facility. The same things the little precious things get onto the media about and bleat that they don't have in their area.

[Bess]

Yup, absolute disgrace but let's not kid ourselves here that it's just the moron druggies doing it! Look around any where you like & you will see this type of thing! Australians like to point at other countries & the state there in with filth everywhere, waters polluted to the point of being poisonous, waste being dumped left right & centre! But I reckon the only thing stopping Australia from becoming one of these sess pits it's all down to numbers, if we had the same population as some of these other countries I don't reckon we would be much better! Just flick that butt out the window, just one little butt right! Added to about 10 million others! Look at any parking area & count the crap that people just chuck out the window, who gives a toss, Right! Well maybe the future generations just might look back at us lot and say , what a bunch of Tossers!

Wake up Australia & those that have come here for a better life! It doesn't get any better than this. We could loose this all to easily!

Rant over!

[Bush Animal]

Reminds me of many many years ago when I lived inDarwin we were way out bush at our favourite water fall for a swim and there were these city slickers there dropping cans and papers in the water letting it just float down the river.Well as we were leaving my mate who is quite a wild lad sees their convertible with the roof down so he picks up the garbage can from the car park and emptys it into the convertible ....Cheers all

[p38arover]

Australians like to point at other countries & the state there in with filth everywhere

My wife and daughter were really impressed with the cleanliness of Vietnamese cities.

[SBD4]

Reminds me of many many years ago when I lived inDarwin we were way out bush at our favourite water fall for a swim and there were these city slickers there dropping cans and papers in the water letting it just float down the river.Well as we were leaving my mate who is quite a wild lad sees their convertible with the roof down so he picks up the garbage can from the car park and emptys it into the convertible ....Cheers all
Reminds me of when, also many years ago, my brother and I were walking in North Sydney, the passenger door of a parked van opened in front of us and a pile of litter was shoveled out into the gutter by the driver. Before he could drive off, we managed to pick it all up and shove it back in through the open window.

Needless to say that the fella of Mediterranean appearance became very irate making all manner of threats. He didn't have the balls to back it up and risk confronting two young blokes in the prime of their lives preferring instead to drive off in an aggressive huff while still carrying on about us disrespecting him.

What amazed us was:


He had no qualms littering right in front of us and not in a trivial way.
He felt that he was the one that was wronged
There was no inkling of social consciousness
Zero contrition on his part.

What hope do we have when people have this attitude?

[Greatsouthernland]

Have a good look. Amazing how many rude filthy pigs toss address mail, Computer hard drives or similar enabling rapid return via EPA, Council, Shire or other authorities.

Load dropped at the back of my place recently after rude filthy pigs moved house. It was easy to find them and great to see the nice surprise they found via Report litter thrown from a vehicle | EPA Victoria (http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/get-involved/report-litter)

EPA report system looks good, I'm gonna see if SA has similar.

Idiots tossing lit and unlit cigarettes from their cars deserve those big fines, risk of fires this time of year is a real concern.

The other type of litterer is the DUMB dog owner who doesn't pick up their dogs' **** from the footpath, park or BEACH! Losers...again the few spoil it for the rest, I can see dogs being banned from beaches, and if it means less **** left where my kids play, then it's a good thing.

[p38arover]

The NSW EPA have a similar reporting system - I use it to report cigarette tossers and rubbish dumpers. If you have a smart phone, you can download their app.

Report to EPA iPhone app, Android app and mobile website | NSW EPA (http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/pollution/ReportToEPA.htm)

[gusthedog]

The other type of litterer is the DUMB dog owner who doesn't pick up their dogs' **** from the footpath, park or BEACH! Losers...again the few spoil it for the rest, I can see dogs being banned from beaches, and if it means less **** left where my kids play, then it's a good thing.

Me too. I live in a small country town and counted 7 dog craps left on the footpath on my way to the park last week. I walk two toddlers in a double pram with two dogs and still manage to pick up every poo. No excuse for leaving faeces on the ground. Take responsibility for your damn pets people :mad:

[austastar]

Hi
a friend was gardening by his front gate, when Madame walked by with Tiddles on a lead.
Said Tiddles drops a load on the footpath, and they walk on.
With a few steps and a smooth scoop, the load was picked up on the shovel and shot neatly and unseen into Madam's shopping basket.

Sweet!

Cheers

[Ausfree]

Don't feel bad. She did the right thing.

You bet she did!!

[trog]

I lost count of the number of ciggie butts tossed today. Fire danger isnt as high in Bris as elsewhere , but a degree of thought wouldnt go astray.:censored:

[Scouse]

This has been dumped outside my place for the last few days. It was probably someone from here as there's a few Disco seats in the pile.


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[jimr1]

I think that most people behave in a responsible way regarding litter . There are those that don't respect the environment . With regard to dumping household litter in the bush . There are laws in place , and fines if caught . I do think that tip fees are becoming on the high side . They are were we live . I also know It cost councils , but they do make an awful lot of money . Thats not only rates but in parking fees , fines , dog licenses ect . After all councils aren't businesses , there there to serve there community . Jim...

[bee utey]

At the local supermarket tonight I observed two young men faffing around next to a Toyota Soarer with the engine idling away. I loaded the shopping, then as I drove off they hopped in leaving two flavoured milk cartons sitting on the ground next to the car. I quickly would down the window and said "I hope you're taking your rubbish with you!". The response "Wha" came out of the Soarer as the driver engaged a bit of lock and reversed right over the cartons. Sadly I was wrong, it wasn't litter up to that instant as a soft squelchy blert shot flavoured milk up all over the side of his car. Whoops! Didn't hang around to see them clean it all up...:p

[DoubleChevron]

I live right on the edge of town in Ballarat. The bush around me is just one huge dumping area. Every fire trail, every gravel track, every offshoot of every track. Lounges, mattresses, household rubbish.

Disappointingly some of them are in areas where only a 4wd could have got too, so we have 4wd owners dragging ute/trailers loads into the bush to dump. They just have the access cut off to us all :(

I'd never dump rubbish, but I CAN understand why it is happening. Ballarat is a very low socio-economic area. Our very average, tiny 3 bedroom single bathroom house has rates of over $2000 a year. For that we get one small ****ty bin and one recycle bin. Now for a family of five on acerage ... this is just pathetic. There is no hard rubbish collection. There never has been. Apparently it's "to expensive and to difficult"...... Even though every other council seems to manage it.

Several times now I have been upto the transfer station with a trailer load of rubbish ..................... And turn around and bought it back home with me. You see we simply can't afford $60->$80 to dump a trailer load of rubbish up there.

The charities are all removing there bins and drop off areas. Otherwise they just end up full of rubbish and mattresses. The answer is given the eye wateringly expensive rates we pay. The council MUST fund at least two hard rubbish collection days a year. No matter the cost, it will be heavily subsidised againt the cost of trying to clean up the bushland and areas around town. It won't stop the filthy pigs that will always dump, but it will top the majority that simply probably cannot afford the huge costs of rubbish disposal.

seeya,
Shane L.

[p38arover]

A friend who lived on acreage in the Blue Mountains had a big pit dug on his property and dumped all his hard rubbish there. Before he sold up, he covered it in and planted a few trees there.

[gusthedog]

I don't buy into the "low socioeconomics and high price of tip fees" argument. Everyone should be responsible for reducing their own waste. Hard rubbish collection lets people continue to live the consumer driven lifestyle. You are poor and don't like tip fees? Then produce less waste. Don't whinge about the cost. It should be dearer to use the tip in my view. Then maybe we'd see an attempt by people to reduce their own waste.

The problem here is that **** heads don't want to reduce their waste. They just want other people to deal with it. Out of sight out of mind comes to mind. So as tip fees go up, so does illegal dumping.

There is no easy solution for the increasing costs of human waste. We all need to try to come up with solutions though. Digging holes on your own property is not the solution. It just spreads the situation. How about a campaign to reduce waste by taxing things with packages at a higher rate? You seen the boxes mobile phones come in for example? Ridiculous amount of packaging.

Increased recycling is not the answer either. Reducing the amount of waste we all create is more proactive ;)

[DoubleChevron]

I don't buy into the "low socioeconomics and high price of tip fees" argument. Everyone should be responsible for reducing their own waste. Hard rubbish collection lets people continue to live the consumer driven lifestyle. You are poor and don't like tip fees? Then produce less waste. Don't whinge about the cost. It should be dearer to use the tip in my view. Then maybe we'd see an attempt by people to reduce their own waste.

The problem here is that **** heads don't want to reduce their waste. They just want other people to deal with it. Out of sight out of mind comes to mind. So as tip fees go up, so does illegal dumping.

There is no easy solution for the increasing costs of human waste. We all need to try to come up with solutions though. Digging holes on your own property is not the solution. It just spreads the situation. How about a campaign to reduce waste by taxing things with packages at a higher rate? You seen the boxes mobile phones come in for example? Ridiculous amount of packaging.

Increased recycling is not the answer either. Reducing the amount of waste we all create is more proactive ;)

That is very helpful. Let me guess .... DINKS ??

seeya,
Shane L.

[gusthedog]

That is very helpful. Let me guess .... DINKS ??

seeya,
Shane L.

Couldn't be more wrong Shane. One income, two kids under 4 and a third on the way.

No I'm not rich. Yes I'm concerned about waste because I think we all should be.

I manage just fine with a small wheelie bin for rubbish and a large one for recycling. Maybe once a year I head to the tip with worn out housing material as I do up my house.

I don't buy things with packaging if I can, fix and maintain everything I own so I can get the longest life out of it, and reduce, reuse, recycle. Call me a hippy or DINK or whatever you like. I know that I'm leaving the smallest footprint I can on the earth. That's good enough for me ;)



Pricey

[p38arover]

This has been dumped outside my place for the last few days. It was probably someone from here as there's a few Disco seats in the pile.

From your shed, Scott?

[BMKal]

I suppose we're fortunate around here in that "dumping" of rubbish in the bush is not something that we see (the main eyesore is littering along the roadside by people too lazy to carry their rubbish with them and disposing of it properly when they arrive in a town).

There are no fees charged for disposal of household rubbish at the Kalgoorlie tip (nor at other towns in the area), and no limit on the quantities / number of trips to the tip you can make - and the local council is pretty savage on anyone found to be dumping their rubbish in the bush.

The only thing that surprises me is that they operate and maintain a traditional "land fill" operation on a bit of virgin land not far out of town, when there is an abundance of disused open pit mines in the area. I have always wondered why they do not simply dump the rubbish into one or more of these pits, and then back fill / cover with the mountains of waste rock and topsoil that are generally stockpiled right alongside the disused pits. Admittedly, this would involve dumping rubbish into / below the water table - but the ground water in this area is hypersaline and generally highly acidic, and cannot be used for anything other than mineral processing in any case.

There was a proposal put forward some years back for when the super-pit's life comes to its economic end (and that's not that far away). The proposal involved bringing rubbish up from Perth by rail and dumping into the super-pit, and then covering the rubbish and capturing the methane gas that would be generated - and then using this gas for power generation. Don't know how feasible this would be as I'm no expert in this field, but it was claimed at the time to have merit.

I am a believer that there should be no cost (or at least, very little cost) to householders dumping their rubbish at a council or government operated waste disposal facility. The argument that higher waste disposal cost promotes lower consumption / better re-cycling / smaller "footprint" doesn't wash with me. More likely - higher waste disposal cost promotes illegal dumping. It's the same argument really as in the thread on welfare benefits. Lower or no social welfare benefits promotes higher crime rate as they need to get the money somewhere to pay for their drugs / booze / cigarettes. Similarly, higher rubbish disposal fees will simply promote illegal dumping. Most people will not "reduce consumption" and couldn't care less about the "size of their footprint" - they will buy what they want to buy - and have to find a way to dispose of what is not needed. If they're charged ridiculous fees to dispose of it in the correct manner, the evidence shows that they will simply dispose of it elsewhere.

[DoubleChevron]

I suppose we're fortunate around here in that "dumping" of rubbish in the bush is not something that we see (the main eyesore is littering along the roadside by people too lazy to carry their rubbish with them and disposing of it properly when they arrive in a town).

There are no fees charged for disposal of household rubbish at the Kalgoorlie tip (nor at other towns in the area), and no limit on the quantities / number of trips to the tip you can make - and the local council is pretty savage on anyone found to be dumping their rubbish in the bush.

The only thing that surprises me is that they operate and maintain a traditional "land fill" operation on a bit of virgin land not far out of town, when there is an abundance of disused open pit mines in the area. I have always wondered why they do not simply dump the rubbish into one or more of these pits, and then back fill / cover with the mountains of waste rock and topsoil that are generally stockpiled right alongside the disused pits. Admittedly, this would involve dumping rubbish into / below the water table - but the ground water in this area is hypersaline and generally highly acidic, and cannot be used for anything other than mineral processing in any case.

There was a proposal put forward some years back for when the super-pit's life comes to its economic end (and that's not that far away). The proposal involved bringing rubbish up from Perth by rail and dumping into the super-pit, and then covering the rubbish and capturing the methane gas that would be generated - and then using this gas for power generation. Don't know how feasible this would be as I'm no expert in this field, but it was claimed at the time to have merit.

I am a believer that there should be no cost (or at least, very little cost) to householders dumping their rubbish at a council or government operated waste disposal facility. The argument that higher waste disposal cost promotes lower consumption / better re-cycling / smaller "footprint" doesn't wash with me. More likely - higher waste disposal cost promotes illegal dumping. It's the same argument really as in the thread on welfare benefits. Lower or no social welfare benefits promotes higher crime rate as they need to get the money somewhere to pay for their drugs / booze / cigarettes. Similarly, higher rubbish disposal fees will simply promote illegal dumping. Most people will not "reduce consumption" and couldn't care less about the "size of their footprint" - they will buy what they want to buy - and have to find a way to dispose of what is not needed. If they're charged ridiculous fees to dispose of it in the correct manner, the evidence shows that they will simply dispose of it elsewhere.

We have 3kids ... only one in nappies now ( loopy greenies feel free to jump in and give me there piece about disposable nappies so I can read the morons the facts of life in the bluntest possible terms). Our bin is overflowing every single week. that's with every container going into the recycling bin.

The easier answer is whenever my wife isn't looking I treat the recycling bin just like a normal rubbish bin. if rubbish fits ...... In it goes. Beats the hell out of dumping rubbish up the bush like everyone else.

Now people of lower income areas generally have a constant flow of old used furniture slightly better than what they had pass through there hands. Do you know how much it costs to dump a couch up at the transfer station ? (hint, put in in your 6 x 4 trailer and head upto the transfer station, They measure the highest and widest point and charge you per cubic meter of mostly air. Likely $60.00+ if you get an asshole there. Yes you need to spend an hour with a sledge hammer and break it up into bite sized peices.

With our last house it came with two old matching single beds setup in two of the bedrooms..... Lucky me. The base is a matress, the matress ... well a mattress. Lets see each matress is $32.25 :eek:. How does $258.00 to get rid of a four old beds sound to you :mad:

I'd never dump rubbish.... after christmas for example ... packaging everywhere. I'll burn anything that can burn and break up everything else over the next month and put in the recycle and rubbish bin ( can everyone say BLOODY POLYSTYRENE in unison :censored: ).

We NEED hard rubbish collection at least twice a year. It's an appalling disgrace to see the sheer volume rubbish dumped in the bush around my place :(

seeya
Shane L.

[p38arover]

We have a 3-bin service. The 240 litre green-lidded organic waste bin gets emptied weekly. It usually has about 2 small plastic (bio-degradable corn-starch) bags of vege scraps in it - unless we have a guide dog staying with us, then it's 3 corn-starch bags. If we haven't put paper towel into the bags, I'll put the vege scraps into the compost bin.

The 240 litre yellow-lidded bin is for recyclable plastics and paper and gets emptied every second week. It's usually full.

The 140 litre red-lidded bin is for the non-recyclable rubbish and it gets emptied on the alternate fortnights. It's usually no more than 1/2 full unless I'm doing a clean up. All my hard rubbish goes in there, e.g., bricks, concrete, left over bamboo flooring, etc., but spread over many weeks. Some will go in my neighbour's red bin (with their permission).

Scrap metal and batteries go on the footpath for the local scrappie to collect. He usually does a run once a week. It's not worth my while to queue at the scrap metal dealer's for a pittance.

[gusthedog]

We have 3kids ... only one in nappies now ( loopy greenies feel free to jump in and give me there piece about disposable nappies so I can read the morons the facts of life in the bluntest possible terms). Our bin is overflowing every single week. that's with every container going into the recycling bin.

The easier answer is whenever my wife isn't looking I treat the recycling bin just like a normal rubbish bin. if rubbish fits ...... In it goes. Beats the hell out of dumping rubbish up the bush like everyone else.

Now people of lower income areas generally have a constant flow of old used furniture slightly better than what they had pass through there hands. Do you know how much it costs to dump a couch up at the transfer station ? (hint, put in in your 6 x 4 trailer and head upto the transfer station, They measure the highest and widest point and charge you per cubic meter of mostly air. Likely $60.00+ if you get an asshole there. Yes you need to spend an hour with a sledge hammer and break it up into bite sized peices.

With our last house it came with two old matching single beds setup in two of the bedrooms..... Lucky me. The base is a matress, the matress ... well a mattress. Lets see each matress is $32.25 :eek:. How does $258.00 to get rid of a four old beds sound to you :mad:

I'd never dump rubbish.... after christmas for example ... packaging everywhere. I'll burn anything that can burn and break up everything else over the next month and put in the recycle and rubbish bin ( can everyone say BLOODY POLYSTYRENE in unison :censored: ).

We NEED hard rubbish collection at least twice a year. It's an appalling disgrace to see the sheer volume rubbish dumped in the bush around my place :(

seeya
Shane L.

Until a month ago I had two kids in disposable nappies. I've never had a bin overflow yet. Putting rubbish in the recycling bin costs us all as it has to be sorted. Depending on where you live this is often by hand. How about buying fruit and veggies without packaging? How about not buying goods with heaps of packaging?

We can easily make changes to reduce the amount of waste we create. That or you can whinge about tip prices because you're unwilling to make a change. Rubbish disposal is only going to cost more in the future. It's not hard to change the way you consume. It's easier to whinge or cry poor though. Have some responsibility for the waste you create and try to reduce it.

[DoubleChevron]

Until a month ago I had two kids in disposable nappies. I've never had a bin overflow yet. Putting rubbish in the recycling bin costs us all as it has to be sorted. Depending on where you live this is often by hand. How about buying fruit and veggies without packaging? How about not buying goods with heaps of packaging?

We can easily make changes to reduce the amount of waste we create. That or you can whinge about tip prices because you're unwilling to make a change. Rubbish disposal is only going to cost more in the future. It's not hard to change the way you consume. It's easier to whinge or cry poor though. Have some responsibility for the waste you create and try to reduce it.

You obviously don't know me at all. Do you want me to start unpackaging food at the supermarket and leave the packaging there? Who buys anything with extra packaging :confused: . Do you really think plastic bags from the supermarket make a spot of difference to the space inside a rubbish bin :wasntme: .... FFS ... aldi doesn't even supply us with plastic bags.

I do understand though .. Because YOUR bin doesn't fill, no-ones should :wasntme: I'm not crying poor, what I earn is irrelevant, however costs ARE considerable for disposal. Loopy greenies wanting costs immense is utter stupidity. It's a bit like saying "hey if we charge a lot of money for fresh air, people with breath less". All that is happening is rubbish is being dumped in vast quanities up the bush around my place.

It could be worse, look what (obviously greeny) morons in the council beside us did last year .... even though basically every lsat person in the entire region said "WE DON'T WANT THIS .... "

Outrage over Golden Plains Shire decision to collect bins fortnightly | The Courier (http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/2772004/outrage-over-golden-plains-shire-decision-to-collect-bins-fortnightly/)

Once again, due to the utter stupidity of the council, the rubbish will simply be dumped up the bush to get rid of it ..... Or added to the recycle bins each week (hey I'd do it without hesitation, if they want to double handle my rubbish, implement stupidity). The morons even hinted they would add cameras on the recycle bin trucks as they realised even as they implemented this stupidity, people would just throw all there rubbish into the recycle bin.

I'm so pleased they supply us with a nice big recycle bin to add household garbage too. Our rates are at least paying for someone to sort the rubbish to cart off to landfill (rather than going on more "fact finding trips" for the councilers).

I'm so lucky to live on a few acres, so I can just burn must stuff to get rid of it.... green waste you just throw in a corner somewhere to compost down. It's not an issue.

seeya
Shane L.

[gusthedog]

You obviously don't know me at all. Do you want me to start unpackaging food at the supermarket and leave the packaging there? Who buys anything with extra packaging :confused: . Do you really think plastic bags from the supermarket make a spot of difference to the space inside a rubbish bin :wasntme: .... FFS ... aldi doesn't even supply us with plastic bags.

I do understand though .. Because YOUR bin doesn't fill, no-ones should :wasntme: I'm not crying poor, what I earn is irrelevant, however costs ARE considerable for disposal. Loopy greenies wanting costs immense is utter stupidity. It's a bit like saying "hey if we charge a lot of money for fresh air, people with breath less". All that is happening is rubbish is being dumped in vast quanities up the bush around my place.

It could be worse, look what (obviously greeny) morons in the council beside us did last year .... even though basically every lsat person in the entire region said "WE DON'T WANT THIS .... "

Outrage over Golden Plains Shire decision to collect bins fortnightly | The Courier (http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/2772004/outrage-over-golden-plains-shire-decision-to-collect-bins-fortnightly/)

Once again, due to the utter stupidity of the council, the rubbish will simply be dumped up the bush to get rid of it ..... Or added to the recycle bins each week (hey I'd do it without hesitation, if they want to double handle my rubbish, implement stupidity). The morons even hinted they would add cameras on the recycle bin trucks as they realised even as they implemented this stupidity, people would just throw all there rubbish into the recycle bin.

I'm so pleased they supply us with a nice big recycle bin to add household garbage too. Our rates are at least paying for someone to sort the rubbish to cart off to landfill (rather than going on more "fact finding trips" for the councilers).

I'm so lucky to live on a few acres, so I can just burn must stuff to get rid of it.... green waste you just throw in a corner somewhere to compost down. It's not an issue.

seeya
Shane L.

No I don't know you Shane and won't make assumptions about you like you've done about me. If you think Council is doing such a bad job why don't you have a go as a councilor? You'll probably find out then that waste is already heavily subsidised by Council. And that every penny Council spends is examined thoroughly. And how much council loses in waste management. I'm not expecting everyone to stop living. Just think about the waste you are creating.

Do whatever you like mate. Couldn't care less to be honest.

Lots of love, a loopy greeny.

[DoubleChevron]

No I don't know you Shane and won't make assumptions about you like you've done about me. If you think Council is doing such a bad job why don't you have a go as a councilor? You'll probably find out then that waste is already heavily subsidised by Council. And that every penny Council spends is examined thoroughly. And how much council loses in waste management. I'm not expecting everyone to stop living. Just think about the waste you are creating.

Do whatever you like mate. Couldn't care less to be honest.

Lots of love, a loopy greeny.

The cost of waste disposal is immense for the council. Councils seem to have forgotten the reason they exist. Upkeep the public infrastucture and take care of rubbish disposal. The local council here is just hopeless. I wouldn't last a week before being kicked out for not being a team player.... No I will not look the other way as everyone else has vested interests.

I was in adelaide once when it was local hard rubbish collection day. it didn't just allow people to get rid of junk. Every 2nd car on the roads was a ute or towing a trailer. Everyone was helping themselves to everyone elses rubbish :Rolling: :Rolling: :Rolling: Seriously, it was bloody brilliant, what is better for the environment than re-using what is already here. All the students get free old furniture and tv's (to be put out next year again on hard collection day... and probably picked up again by the following years students) ... all the old cupboard and broken stuff get collected up for shed and repair. Only stuff the is very much un-usable rubbish ends up in landfill.

I can't understand why the council doesn't want this ? I rekcon they have once again done dodgy deals with the local transfer station operator. After all, why aren't we allowed to drive out to the actual tip that is closer than the transfer station?

seeya,
Shane L.

[carjunkieanon]

Our church has a charity bin in the car park. Despite the sign saying, 'clothing only', all sorts of rubbish is left around it. Broken pedestal fans, chairs, etc. Last year someone, I presuming moving house, dumped stuff over a period of 2 weeks. Bags of documents, furniture, books, broken board games, puzzles missing pieces etc. Was easy for the council to track down (apparently) and thank goodness the council cleaned it all up.

Apparently it costs Anglicare in Sydney $500,000 per year to get rid of all the rubbish dumped in their charity bins. That's half a million less that can go to charity.

[DoubleChevron]

Our church has a charity bin in the car park. Despite the sign saying, 'clothing only', all sorts of rubbish is left around it. Broken pedestal fans, chairs, etc. Last year someone, I presuming moving house, dumped stuff over a period of 2 weeks. Bags of documents, furniture, books, broken board games, puzzles missing pieces etc. Was easy for the council to track down (apparently) and thank goodness the council cleaned it all up.

Apparently it costs Anglicare in Sydney $500,000 per year to get rid of all the rubbish dumped in their charity bins. That's half a million less that can go to charity.

Most bins are gone these days. There is big fences with gates and cameras around the local salvos. I don't think they even have bins there, if you want to donate you have to take the stuff in and see they'll accept it.

If you drive around the areas where houses are being built, the big rubbish skips have the lids padlocked down, otherwise when the builders come back the following day and there skips are full of mattresses and houshold rubbish. They have to pay extra to get rid of the mattresses as they are not allowed to be put in skips. If the skips are full or locked, the pigs often just throw all the rubbish on the lids and ground infront of them.

seeya
Shane L.

[jimr1]

I was over in the uk earlier this year , We passed a load of rubbish that had been dumped on a farmers field . My brother was saying that the council make the farmer clean It up , and It is at the farmers expense . So the problem is not just here . However Singapore , also Hawaii are very clean places !!.. Jim :)

[Tank]

I might as well put my 2 bob's worth in and wait for the **** to hit the fan, first whinging about dog **** on footpaths and beaches is so Hypocritical when you consider how much **** we good people pump into our rivers and oceans.
More likely to bump into a human's turd while swimming anywhere nowadays, including the local pool.
Then there's those loverly people that DON'T use the provided toilets at my favourite camping spot.
They don't think twice about leaving piles of steaming **** and **** stained streamers blowing in the wind, one of the Rangers told me about a pile of **** next to the toilet seat, what sort of human does this.
Then we all feel so good about taking stuff to the tip to be buried and turn into the worst Green House Gas (GHG) Methane and we go home and throw some wood into the Domestic Wood Heater (DWH) along with a pile of disposable nappies and maybe even some Treated wood.
We pat ourselves on the back for cutting down a tree or 3 or 4, which stores CO2 and releases Oxygen for us to breathe, we cut up this carbon store and put it in a device (the DWH), choke the oxygen supply and create a toxic brew of Carcinogens and Dioxins to feed to our neighbours and ourselves.
All the while feeling good about how we just recycled a whole pile of rubbish and that we picked up a turd that your dog dropped on the beach or footpath,most of what you think is going to be recycled goes straight to landfill, 1400 Australians die each year as a direct result of Particulate Air pollution PM10> and mostly PM2.5 with the Vast Majority of PM2.5 coming from DWH.
Nice to have the ambience of a wood fire, but at what cost, according to the Senate inquiry on DWH pollution it costs between $2500 to $3000/year/DWH in medical costs.
So if you want to make yourself feel righteous, use the toilets at camping areas or better still take a Porta-Potti with you and don't be a Hypocrite about a dog turd on the beach, after all it might be yours, Regards Frank.

[Greatsouthernland]

I might as well put my 2 bob's worth in and wait for the **** to hit the fan, first whinging about dog **** on footpaths and beaches is so Hypocritical when you consider how much **** we good people pump into our rivers and oceans.
More likely to bump into a human's turd while swimming anywhere nowadays....

Not where I live, yet, but thanks for the heads up :D ...(seen them fish one out of the local pool though :o )

In the mean time, good people :angel: don't leave your dog **** or cigarette butts on the beach, footpath, or road! And yeh the other stuff's annoying too ;)