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Homestar
24th November 2015, 06:15 PM
Simple question, yes or no. If you don't know what it means, it means to give someone a hand, but vote no if that's the case. I'll reveal why I asked later on. :)

alien
24th November 2015, 06:24 PM
It's a term that I've used for over 20 years in the work place.

p38arover
24th November 2015, 06:36 PM
Never heard the term before.

Homestar
24th November 2015, 07:34 PM
7 no's already! Interesting, and not the way I thought it would go.

R2D2
24th November 2015, 07:39 PM
Yep. Use it at work.

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Mick_Marsh
24th November 2015, 07:39 PM
Simple question, yes or no. If you don't know what it means, it means to give someone a hand, but vote no if that's the case. I'll reveal why I asked later on. :)
Googling, I get "to give someone what they deserve", usually used as a put down when something bad happens.
Aslo, "to give someone a chewing out".

Ausfree
24th November 2015, 07:41 PM
Never heard of it. Seems to be a Mexican saying judging by the postings.

I have heard of "to give someone the chop" which means to sack them!!

DOWN THE BORE
24th November 2015, 07:47 PM
Yep, used regularly when I played footy (AFL).

Homestar
24th November 2015, 07:49 PM
Googling, I get "to give someone what they deserve", usually used as a put down when something bad happens.
Aslo, "to give someone a chewing out".

Second result on Google shows the meaning I'm on about - the Faceplant result.


Never heard of it. Seems to be a Mexican saying judging by the postings.

I have heard of "to give someone the chop" which means to sack them!!

Could be something in that - the above Faceplant result I refered to is from Melbourne.

Interesting.

Homestar
24th November 2015, 07:52 PM
So who didn't vote yes? 4 people say they have heard of it, but only 3 votes for yes... :D

Cmon, I need every yes I can muster. :D

B92 8NW
24th November 2015, 08:02 PM
I use it all the time:cool:.

Blknight.aus
24th November 2015, 08:09 PM
yes, but in what context?

depending on how you use it it can go not as a good thing but not bad to a bad thing.

I suspect I know why you want to know so I wont elaborate on how I've heard it used till the polls closed

weeds
24th November 2015, 08:20 PM
No.....

Is there a poll?? Cannot see polls on iPhone.

PSI250
24th November 2015, 08:22 PM
Use it at work mostly. Normally when asking other departments if they need a hand:
"Hey you guys need a chop out?"

p38arover
24th November 2015, 08:25 PM
Victorian term?

Homestar
24th November 2015, 08:26 PM
yes, but in what context?

depending on how you use it it can go not as a good thing but not bad to a bad thing.

I suspect I know why you want to know so I wont elaborate on how I've heard it used till the polls closed

As PSI250 said - asking if some needs a hand - a good thing in the context I'm talking about. 'You need a chop out at all?'

Homestar
24th November 2015, 08:27 PM
Victorian term?

Certainly starting to look that way. That on its own is an interesting result and worth the effort. :)

Blknight.aus
24th November 2015, 09:30 PM
the contexts I have heard "chop out" used in

Give him a chop out... "give him his slice of whats due and get rid of him" (this is the one that could be good could be bad)

need a chop out? "tag out if you need mate, I'll take it for a bit" (sort of like tag team wrestling)

this job needs to chop out to....."pass a part of a project task, job or something to someone" (usually at very short notice)

go and chop out with.... "you are to go and take over what .... is doing"

chop out now. "dump it and run"

DiscoMick
24th November 2015, 09:35 PM
Karate chop?
Get the chop.

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alien
24th November 2015, 09:42 PM
The context I've heard it used is a backwards type of offer.

"Want a chop out?"
Vs
"'Your falling behind with your work load so I'll give you hand"

JDNSW
25th November 2015, 05:55 AM
Until this thread I had never heard of the term. And I lived in Melbourne for 22 years!

John

debruiser
25th November 2015, 06:13 AM
MUST be a Victorian thing.... I've never heard of it. Not that I'm a walking encyclopaedia or anything. :D

Give me a good definition and I'll take it on board to try and use, I always like to have some colloquialisms to use specially ones that don't get used much.

DiscoMick
25th November 2015, 06:15 AM
Is it related to Chopper Read?

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vnx205
25th November 2015, 06:22 AM
Never heard the expression.

Dave's long list of examples demonstrates one of the problems with colloquial expressions. To a much greater extent than more formal language, there is considerable scope misunderstanding. Variations in meaning are often regional, but sometimes the phrase simply has a wide variety of meanings.

Back in the 60's, in less politically correct times, a young man at UNE might be asked if he was "fronting a bird". The problem was that the term might be used just to mean that he had asked a girl out or it could mean that he was sleeping with her.

At about the same time "scungy" usually meant unpleasant, but on the farm where I was picking and packing tomatoes, the "scungy" job or the "scungers" job was the easy or lazy job, the one that required least effort.

So even if people have heard the expression, there is no guarantee that they ascribe the same meaning to it.

87County
25th November 2015, 06:31 AM
Never heard the expression.

.................

So even if people have heard the expression, there is no guarantee that they ascribe the same meaning to it.

A bit like the expression that something was "mickey mouse" which in the early 70s could have completely opposite meanings :).

If I heard the expression in question (which I hadn't) I would have assumed it had something to do with food distribution at a bbq.

Redback
25th November 2015, 06:54 AM
Never heard of it.

I'll give you the drum.

Redback
25th November 2015, 07:04 AM
A bit like the expression that something was "mickey mouse" which in the early 70s could have completely opposite meanings :).

If I heard the expression in question (which I hadn't) I would have assumed it had something to do with food distribution at a bbq.

I never heard anyone say "mickey mouse" in the early 70s, well unless it was on the The Walt Disney show or the Mickey Mouse Show.

Tops, grouce, good one, bees knees, ducks guts, ripper, beauty bottler yes, other than the above shows, I didn't hear mickey mouse till I came to Sydney and was watching TV and someone said in a cop show.

Maybe some sayings are regional.

Chops
25th November 2015, 07:22 AM
Everytine I've heard it, it's been about working someone out of wherever. A team or work, usually indicated first by the fact their not very good, or "in the way".
Also in footy, coach would say chop "someone" out from the opposing side, making room for one of our blokes to get where he needed to be.

ramblingboy42
25th November 2015, 08:01 AM
I have heard the term to "give someone a cop out" meaning to give them the easy way out or to avoid responsibility for a wrongdoing.

Judo
25th November 2015, 08:46 AM
Never heard of it. Voted no.

DiscoMick
25th November 2015, 09:47 AM
A bit like the expression that something was "mickey mouse" which in the early 70s could have completely opposite meanings :).

If I heard the expression in question (which I hadn't) I would have assumed it had something to do with food distribution at a bbq.
Wasn't Mickey Mouse a rhyme with grouse meaning good?

Landover
25th November 2015, 10:38 AM
I have heard the phase before. To me it meant to give someone a hand or bail them out of a hard spot.


I thought Mickey Mouse was meaning Grouse.

Eevo
25th November 2015, 10:41 AM
so what bet did you lose?

Homestar
25th November 2015, 10:49 AM
Wasn't Mickey Mouse a rhyme with grouse meaning good?

Or rhyming slang for **** house meaning bad - that one goes both ways...

Homestar
25th November 2015, 10:53 AM
so what bet did you lose?

I actually won the bet. :)

This all started when I asked my 18 YO son to 'Give me a chop out' last night while cooking tea. He starred at me blankly and asked what I meant. When I told him, he said I was making it up - SWMBO then joined in and ganged up on me saying I'd made the term up. I insisted that the term had been around for some time, but they didn't believe me. I told them I'd start a poll on AULRO to prove I wasn't the only one that had heard, or used this term. :)

I showed them the results so far this morning - I win, SWMBO bought me a coffee on the way to work.

The most interesting thing I've found out by this thread is that it seems to be a term only used here in Vic.

Chops
25th November 2015, 11:24 AM
Speaking of phrases that are local.
I made the mistake of saying to someone up in Albury that they'd be in "more trouble than Jack Johnson". No one knew what I was referring to :eek:

Apparently it's a Mornington Penninsula saying

Eevo
25th November 2015, 11:30 AM
I told them I'd start a poll on AULRO to prove I wasn't the only one that had heard, or used this term. :)

so you didnt need a majority vote, just a single vote to win the bet.

Homestar
25th November 2015, 12:16 PM
Correct, but the more votes for ''yes'' I get, the more I can rub it in their faces...:D

cuppabillytea
25th November 2015, 12:31 PM
It's new to me. :confused:

vnx205
25th November 2015, 12:36 PM
Correct, but the more votes for ''yes'' I get, the more I can rub it in their faces...:D

Maybe, but your son can take comfort in that fact that only a small minority of people have heard the expression and most of those who have are probably a great deal older than he is..

I think your son and your wife should regard the poll results as supporting their scepticism. :)

Homestar
25th November 2015, 01:27 PM
Maybe, but your son can take comfort in that fact that only a small minority of people have heard the expression and most of those who have are probably a great deal older than he is..

I think your son and your wife should regard the poll results as supporting their scepticism. :)

Not a chance. :D The poll results clearly show that 1/5th of all Australians - which translates to over 4,000,000 people have heard of this phrase. :D

Statistics can prove anything. ;)

And considering there are nearly 6,000,000 Victorians - which it seems is where the phrase comes from, then who am I to argue with the statistics...

Lionelgee
25th November 2015, 01:34 PM
Hello Bacicat

As an expatriate New South Welshman and having lived in Queensland for longer than I care to remember or admit; I have only heard of "Give someone the chop". As used in association with a device utilised during the French Revolution, namely, Madame La Guillotine.

Me thinks Bacicat that your phrase is Victorian in its origins.


Kind Regards
Lionel

Naviguesser
26th November 2015, 08:30 PM
I was a yes. A term I have heard and used since I was a boy.
To ask for a hand (can you give me a chop out) or to ask if someone needs a hand (do you need a chop out).

Oh and a Victorian :)

slug_burner
26th November 2015, 09:27 PM
I was a no and have lived in Vic over 40 years. Might be a bit more selective than just Vic. Is it a trade specific saying? It appears not as some of you have used it from childhood, maybe there is a connection back through the parents and their adult life associations?

loanrangie
27th November 2015, 12:40 PM
Sounds like its a generational thing Gav, i have heard and used it for at least 30years in the workplace and out.
Probably more a blue collar worker saying, so that leaves out the fridge drivers and latte set :p.

Homestar
27th November 2015, 12:57 PM
I think you've hit the nail on the head mate. :)

Lionelgee
27th November 2015, 01:57 PM
Sounds like its a generational thing Gav, i have heard and used it for at least 30years in the workplace and out.
Probably more a blue collar worker saying, so that leaves out the fridge drivers and latte set :p.

Hello Loanrangie,

Hmmm possibly make that an older Victorian bluecollar - tradie.

My trade was landscaping, before that I was an electrical TA and before that a plumbing TA - in NSW and Qld. I also worked in the by-products rendering plant of an abattoir and as a Wool presser. I worked as a labourer with local councils. Realising that my employment was all short term I took two years out and put myself through Landscaping as a trade. I am in my Fifties - I have never heard of the expression.

Kind Regards
Lionel

loanrangie
27th November 2015, 02:00 PM
Hello Loanrangie,

Hmmm possibly make that an older Victorian bluecollar - tradie.

My trade was landscaping, before that I was an electrical TA and before that a plumbing TA - in NSW and Qld. I am in my Fifties - I have never heard of the expression.

Kind Regards
Lionel

I agree, we have established that its a Victorian saying.

Lionelgee
27th November 2015, 05:32 PM
so that leaves out the fridge drivers and latte set :p.

Hello Loanrangie,

I know about the latte set; not sure whom the "Fridge drivers" are though? Are they Refrigerated transport drivers? People who have air conditioning in their car?

Or is this another Victorian thing? :p

Kind Regards
Lionel

p38arover
27th November 2015, 06:18 PM
I know about the latte set; not sure whom the "Fridge drivers" are though?

Discovery 3/4 drivers.

Eevo
27th November 2015, 06:19 PM
Not a chance. :D The poll results clearly show that 1/5th of all Australians - .


the poll results clearly shows the vast majority don't know what the **** you are talking about. :)

not sure why we needed a poll to tell us this :wasntme:

Homestar
27th November 2015, 06:32 PM
Now you sound just like my Wife Eevo. It's bad enough putting up with one of them... :D

Lionelgee
27th November 2015, 07:09 PM
Discovery 3/4 drivers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUoiy22Q_lw

Kind Regards
Lionel

Homestar
27th November 2015, 07:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUoiy22Q_lw

Kind Regards
Lionel

White D3/D4's look like fridges, so their owners are Fridge drivers - simples. ;)

rangieman
27th November 2015, 08:37 PM
Gav been here all my life and have never heard it:cool:

trog
28th November 2015, 12:12 AM
No but there is one to be found on the slang encyclopedia that comes from Canada re bludging . wont pass the swear filter but idid hear it in use the other day

Homestar
28th November 2015, 07:07 AM
Gav been here all my life and have never heard it:cool:

Maybe living over your side of town is too posh to have heard of it....?:D:angel::wasntme:

ramblingboy42
28th November 2015, 07:26 AM
We used to go out to 'the creek' for a chop picnic when I was young...and a famous Australian artist has put it to canvas , just to go offtrack.

Homestar
28th November 2015, 08:27 AM
Off track is just fine - that's my favourite type of thread. :)

rangieman
28th November 2015, 09:08 AM
Maybe living over your side of town is too posh to have heard of it....?:D:angel::wasntme:

Ouch i knew that westie comment would come back and bite me:angel:;):D

AndyG
28th November 2015, 10:33 AM
OK,
Next colloquial saying ? This thread has potential

Thank your mother for the rabbits

Lionelgee
28th November 2015, 11:57 AM
OK,
Next colloquial saying ? This thread has potential

Thank your mother for the rabbits

Hello Andy,

Unfortunately there is only one poll per colloquialism - However it is a "Yes" from me :)

Kind Regards
Lionel

Greatsouthernland
30th November 2015, 08:46 AM
Hi Gav,

I'm a no. It doesn't even make sense...but that's just a perspective thing I suppose.

Give someone a hand, some help ... to give them a 'chop out'. Wow, slang gone crazy...but Victoria is a place of wonders :angel:

It's clear you didn't make it up, but your wife and son are in the clear majority that would never have heard of it, so tough bet, but they took it...

WhiteD3
30th November 2015, 12:09 PM
To give someone the chop is to sack them.
To get the chop is to be sacked.

wrinklearthur
30th November 2015, 07:49 PM
Now, down here in Gods own country I'm scratching the scone on what you bu-! blokes are raving on about on the other side of the drink and I reckon that something has gone amiss with the train you brought, everyone here knows the answer is to that, is being accepted to complete in the wood chop events.

cuppabillytea
3rd December 2015, 10:45 AM
It could mean: To throw a chop off the barby, over the back fence for your Neighbour. :angel:

Homestar
3rd December 2015, 11:13 AM
It could mean: To throw a chop off the barby, over the back fence for your Neighbour. :angel:

The only thing I'd throw over my nearest neighbours fence would be what I pick up after the dogs...

cuppabillytea
3rd December 2015, 11:18 AM
The only thing I'd throw over my nearest neighbours fence would be what I pick up after the dogs...
Well it could have been a chop once. :angel: