New Discovery 4 SDV6 SE ordered - Wheel confusion

[Chrisdalton]

Hi all.
I've just ordered my first Land Rover, in the process of selling my Amarok which I have loved.
I am looking at wheel choices for off roading (mainly sand) and have seen the GOE 18's but also found these https://wheelking.com.au/wheel/land%20rover/discovery/mk4/6293/advanti-thunder-12
On the site they say they are suitable however I have not seen them mentioned here or on the Disco4 site.
They look like a good alternative as an 18 inch rim.

My car arrives in mid-late December, just before Xmas and comes with the 20inch black pack rims. Am I better suited to get the 19 inch black pack rims and add some better All Terrain gyres so I don't need to switch wheels?

Thank you
Chris

[letherm]

Hi all.
I've just ordered my first Land Rover, in the process of selling my Amarok which I have loved.
I am looking at wheel choices for off roading (mainly sand) and have seen the GOE 18's but also found these https://wheelking.com.au/wheel/land%20rover/discovery/mk4/6293/advanti-thunder-12
On the site they say they are suitable however I have not seen them mentioned here or on the Disco4 site.
They look like a good alternative as an 18 inch rim.

My car arrives in mid-late December, just before Xmas and comes with the 20inch black pack rims. Am I better suited to get the 19 inch black pack rims and add some better All Terrain gyres so I don't need to switch wheels?

Thank you
Chris

Gordon's (GOE) rims allow for the extra size of the brakes etc from memory. From what I have read, you need to make sure that the rims you are looking at will actually fit. I'm not an expert so will leave it to others with more detailed knowledge to comment but be aware of the potential pitfall and get a guarntee from the seller that they will indeed fit your new car.

Gordon will probably comment in due course.

Welcome to the forum.:):)

Regards,
Martin

[strydes]

The vehicle selection options on the site doesn't give the option to specify between 2.7 and 3ltr motors, just '2009+' which I think is concerning. Certainly take the time to call them up and check... then get it in writing! as I think for now at least the Compomotives are the only option in the world (excluding Tombie's prototype ones and the dodgy ones that kept cracking), and they were specially modified for the job.

[l00kin4]

Hi all.
I've just ordered my first Land Rover, in the process of selling my Amarok which I have loved.
I am looking at wheel choices for off roading (mainly sand) and have seen the GOE 18's but also found these https://wheelking.com.au/wheel/land%20rover/discovery/mk4/6293/advanti-thunder-12
On the site they say they are suitable however I have not seen them mentioned here or on the Disco4 site.
They look like a good alternative as an 18 inch rim.

Thank you
Chris



Hard to tell exactly but they look very similar to the wheels helixx put on here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/120913-show-us-your-disco-sport-please-read-first-post-first-70.html#post2281680


He had to grind away part of the front brake callipers... ("I had to grind about 5mm from the front caliper ribs. this leaves about 3mm clearance between rim and brake.")


David

[guthrie]

I think for now at least the Compomotives are the only option in the world

Mudtech also do one RAID 18″ WHEELS | MUDTECH 4?4 (http://www.mudtech4x4.com/cerchi-raid/?lang=en)
which are about the same price as the Compomotives

[strydes]

Yes of course, I forgot about those and stand corrected. Properly ugly compared to Compomotives though for the same money :D

[Celtoid]

The vehicle selection options on the site doesn't give the option to specify between 2.7 and 3ltr motors, just '2009+' which I think is concerning. Certainly take the time to call them up and check... then get it in writing! as I think for now at least the Compomotives are the only option in the world (excluding Tombie's prototype ones and the dodgy ones that kept cracking), and they were specially modified for the job.

There aren't any 2.7L anymore (nor V8 petrol) and I think judging by the spec attached below that the brakes are all the large variety?

http://www.landrover.com.au/Images/LR9596_2015_Discovery_Specs_Sheet_300x215_Con_LR_t cm296-96761.pdf

Cheers,

Kev.

[winaje]

Spoke to Adrian on 03 9541 9688, he is at 88 Ricketts Rd Mount Waverley VIC.
His initial answer is that they will fit, but when I explained that tolerances are VERY tight, he said that he is happy to have someone call him to organise a trial fitting of either the Advanti Thunder or Advanti Krawler 5 rims to the front of a D4 SDV6. He will need a little notice to get everything ready.

[Graeme]

Be aware that there is a legal minimum clearance between the caliper and rim, which IIRC is 3mm but could be more.

[Stuart02]

Load rating of 1120 kg is good, is the 45 mm offset right? I look forward to your findings!

[Meken]

Hi all.

I've just ordered my first Land Rover, in the process of selling my Amarok which I have loved.

I am looking at wheel choices for off roading (mainly sand) and have seen the GOE 18's but also found these https://wheelking.com.au/wheel/land%20rover/discovery/mk4/6293/advanti-thunder-12

On the site they say they are suitable however I have not seen them mentioned here or on the Disco4 site.

They look like a good alternative as an 18 inch rim.



My car arrives in mid-late December, just before Xmas and comes with the 20inch black pack rims. Am I better suited to get the 19 inch black pack rims and add some better All Terrain gyres so I don't need to switch wheels?



Thank you

Chris


Just go with the 20's - there's more choice of tyre than 19s - let them down to 16 and you'll go almost anywhere - especially on the sand

[Nicky]

If you will ever use snow chains better check if they will fit 20" wheels on a D4.
Look at the clearance around the front wheels.

[Meken]

If you will ever use snow chains better check if they will fit 20" wheels on a D4.

Look at the clearance around the front wheels.


Read a thread the other day about snow chains - I think you have to use slimline ones

[Stuart02]

If you will ever use snow chains better check if they will fit 20" wheels on a D4.
Look at the clearance around the front wheels.

It's about the width of the rim. If they're 10" and 275mm tyres then yeah there's less than 10mm to the front strut and you'll be up for roughly $700 for front chains.

[Chrisdalton]

So perhaps stick with the 20's for now and get a set of good all terrain tyres for the sand.

[Redback]

If you have just spent near on $100,000 on a car, why skimp on rims that might fit, just get the GOE rims, they look good, they aren't that much dearer AND they fit.

[jon3950]

If you have just spent near on $100,000 on a car, why skimp on rims that might fit, just get the GOE rims, they look good, they aren't that much dearer AND they fit.

And they won't break.

[Chrisdalton]

If you have just spent near on $100,000 on a car, why skimp on rims that might fit, just get the GOE rims, they look good, they aren't that much dearer AND they fit.


That's just it I like the look of other rims better than the GOE, perhaps I need to see more photos of them. Spending nearly $90k on a Disco means I don't want to compromise and want to know what options are available. On my Amarok, the 3rd party rims with BFG's looks so good I leave them on all year round.
The GOE rims although seem logically like the best solution regardless of appearance. I plan to head to the Simpson next year and they would 100% be the rim for that trip.

[sctsprin]

I was unsure about the look of GOE rims to, but they look awesome in the flesh

[rufusking]

Gordon (GOE) is/was developing a second style of the 18" for D4/RRS. From memory last post had a late 2015, early 2016 release.

Any further update gghaggis?

Found that post: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/210943-18-inch-rims.html

[Redback]

That's just it I like the look of other rims better than the GOE, perhaps I need to see more photos of them. Spending nearly $90k on a Disco means I don't want to compromise and want to know what options are available. On my Amarok, the 3rd party rims with BFG's looks so good I leave them on all year round.
The GOE rims although seem logically like the best solution regardless of appearance. I plan to head to the Simpson next year and they would 100% be the rim for that trip.


Yes they would, you have to say to yourself, would the new rims(avanti) be good enough, consider that the GOE rims are a proven product.

I think the GOE rims look quite good, Scotts D4(LRD414) looks brilliant with them on.

3 photos of different coloured D4s with GOE rims

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/lrd414-albums-wheels-picture5146-new-wheels.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/11/111.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/11/112.jpg
By the way, we have an Amarok, we love it too;)

[Chrisdalton]

They actually don't look bad, just trying to see if there are other options. I'm getting a Corris Grey Black pack so the GOE black rim probably with some BFG's will do the job and look pretty good too. Will wait to see Gordon's reply to the new style

[Drizzle]

If you have just spent near on $100,000 on a car, why skimp on rims that might fit, just get the GOE rims, they look good, they aren't that much dearer AND they fit.

The 3.0L D4 has been around a while now and 2nd hand market prices are rapidly falling where they can now be spotted for around high $30k's. Keeping in mind that not everyone has $100k to splash on a new vehicle and the prospective buyers could be stretching their finances just to buy the used vehicle let alone all the accessories on their wish lists. The affordability of any accessory, including suitable wheels for their intended driving terrain suddenly becomes a consideration for buying the vehicle and is subsequently an influencing factor determining the resale prices for those vehicles.

It's no secret the jap brigade have many cheaper options than the D4 for wheels and accessories. Additionally, the D3 has many available options for wheels from the budget priced 17" steel wheels at $79, to second hand BMW X5 17" alloys which can frequently be picked up for around $200 for 4 on eBay, through to the Compomotive 18" wheels which are unquestionably a great solid product for off-road use. But, at the current going price of the Compomotives which has no doubt been affected by the dropping AUD$, a healthy dose of competition in any marketplace never goes astray. Most certainly this is the catalyst for the rumoured developments of cheaper options for 18" wheels by Gordon and Tombie.

Although it's still to be confirmed, but if Advanti (or any other manufacturer) are going to throw their hat in the ring with a suitable high load 18" rim to fit a 3.0L D4, I think it can only be a good thing for the wider D3/D4 community.

[Redback]

The 3.0L D4 has been around a while now and 2nd hand market prices are rapidly falling where they can now be spotted for around high $30k's. Keeping in mind that not everyone has $100k to splash on a new vehicle and the prospective buyers could be stretching their finances just to buy the used vehicle let alone all the accessories on their wish lists. The affordability of any accessory, including suitable wheels for their intended driving terrain suddenly becomes a consideration for buying the vehicle and is subsequently an influencing factor determining the resale prices for those vehicles.

It's no secret the jap brigade have many cheaper options than the D4 for wheels and accessories. Additionally, the D3 has many available options for wheels from the budget priced 17" steel wheels at $79, to second hand BMW X5 17" alloys which can frequently be picked up for around $200 for 4 on eBay, through to the Compomotive 18" wheels which are unquestionably a great solid product for off-road use. But, at the current going price of the Compomotives which has no doubt been affected by the dropping AUD$, a healthy dose of competition in any marketplace never goes astray. Most certainly this is the catalyst for the rumoured developments of cheaper options for 18" wheels by Gordon and Tombie.

Although it's still to be confirmed, but if Advanti (or any other manufacturer) are going to throw their hat in the ring with a suitable high load 18" rim to fit a 3.0L D4, I think it can only be a good thing for the wider D3/D4 community.

I agree, but I was only commenting on if you can afford a 90 or 100,000 dollar car, an extra $1000 wouldn't be a stretch, especially for a quality proven product, and I assume if you could then you would have a budget that included accessories and other things you wanted, I would also imagine the same goes for anyone regardless of what you can afford.

We are in that group, could not afford a new D4 if we wanted accessories, so we waited until one came up at the right price, so we could fit the accessories we though essential and we could afford, in the end we got a demonstrator thanks to a friend.

I do hope that these new rims fit the D4 3.0l, that would mean if we end up going to the 3.0l, we still have another option of a second set of rims for offroad, a new D4 is out of reach for us, and the fact I will never buy a new Land Rover product ever again(that's another story) so it will be second hand again.

[gghaggis]

Hi All,

Been out on the Nullabor and have only just seen this thread. The plummet in the dollar means the major reason for developing a new Compomotive doesn't really apply anymore. And as I'd have to fund it (in British Pounds!), it isn't going to happen any time soon.

Regards,

Gordon

[Stuart02]

Hi All,

Been out on the Nullabor and have only just seen this thread. The plummet in the dollar means the major reason for developing a new Compomotive doesn't really apply anymore. And as I'd have to fund it (in British Pounds!), it isn't going to happen any time soon.

Regards,

Gordon

Is the likely development cost classified? Just wondering if you could crowd fund the development?

[LandyAndy]

Is the likely development cost classified? Just wondering if you could crowd fund the development?

There are a crowd of us who may inject coins into a cloud;);););)
GREAT IDEA:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
Andrew

[gghaggis]

It's around $40 000 - but I don't think the small cost saving is worth the outlay. I'm more interested in modifying the current design to fit the L494/L405 Rangies (which will probably suit the new D5 as well ).

Cheers

Gordon

[Melbourne Park]

The GOE rims will not go down in value much. And you will save in tyre costs. Unknown ones privately imported, will have little value when sold. And you won't get support. Plus - we all know the GOE wheels are brilliant.

Plus you can put on 275/18/65 profile tyres, which when let down, will work in sand very well. If you have 255/18/60 tyres, then their extra lift due to more length, is worth close to a tonne extra float. Much better than 19", but not as much lift as a 65 profile let down.

I have the grey GOE rims, and they look totally different to the silver ones. I was at a rally for my van in Victoria (mostly LC 200 users and also lots of BT51 there) but the organiser has a well kitted out Disco, which the silver GOE wheels. He did not think my grey wheels were GOE. I did not think his silver wheels were GOE. Both the same wheel, but different colours.

So ... remember the colour of the wheel makes a HUGE difference.

He does not use any other wheel ... I wonder if its possible to sell your tyres and wheels to the dealer, and just go GOE from the Get Go? And that way, the dealer will be involved, and if there is an issue with a rotor warranty etc, the dealer will assist you as he may have swapped out the wheels with a profit involved for himself??

Hey ... that sounds like a slogan ... Go Gordon, Go GOE from the Get Go. Not bad eh Gordon? Can I get a good price now on an air tank guard and some side sill protectors?


As far as appearance goes too - my son's good friend loved the look of my grey wheels. He's 23, and young blokes have a good eye. With the BFG 275/18/65 tyres (which I'l like to get next) the vehicle will look awesome. For hooting it around town, the 20" would be better though, but i'm not into that kind of driving in a Disco at least ...

doug

[Chrisdalton]

So Gordon
How much is it for a set of 4 GOE 18 inch rims in black delivered to the Gold Coast?

[RobA]

Hi all.
I've just ordered my first Land Rover, in the process of selling my Amarok which I have loved.
I am looking at wheel choices for off roading (mainly sand) and have seen the GOE 18's but also found these https://wheelking.com.au/wheel/land%20rover/discovery/mk4/6293/advanti-thunder-12
On the site they say they are suitable however I have not seen them mentioned here or on the Disco4 site.
They look like a good alternative as an 18 inch rim.

My car arrives in mid-late December, just before Xmas and comes with the 20inch black pack rims. Am I better suited to get the 19 inch black pack rims and add some better All Terrain gyres so I don't need to switch wheels?

Thank you
Chris

Gordon had a set of Nitto 255/55/20 on his RR in Adelaide and they worked very well in the rocky terrain we were training in so I think you have a choice to retain your 20"s in the first instance and look at a more appropriate off bitumen tyre that suits your needs. From there the next step is obviously 18"s if you want to move to a higher load rating

Rob

[gghaggis]

So Gordon
How much is it for a set of 4 GOE 18 inch rims in black delivered to the Gold Coast?

You'll need to email me with an address for quotes.

Cheers

Gordon

[Melbourne Park]

I think 18" wheels is more about obtaining a higher profile tyre without the tyres hitting the vehicle in normal driving. With a 60 profile, you can let more air out, and the tyre will extend forwards and backwards and hence extend the length of the contact patch, which increases lift in sand - a lot. A 65 profile allows even more increases in contact patch and hence lift.

[Chrisdalton]

You'll need to email me with an address for quotes.

Cheers

Gordon


Hi Gordon
I have done so through your website.

Can you please advise if you have not as yet received it?

Thank you
Chris